Help!!! im obese and food allways wins.

  • alexjroe

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    Jan 08, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    I really need help, ive been trying to lose weight for 2 years now, i started at 292lbs and after 2 years im only 287lbs.
    Im on a tight budget so i try to eat healthy and buy what i need from one pay check and when i run out i dont have enough money from the next pay check to keep it up and end up buying the cheap non healthy foods.
    i have a bowflex in my liveing room but can never find the motivation to use it and a recumbent bike as well. ive done a shout out to guys in abbotsford (my home town) for a work out buddy and ad *no sex just work out* and all i get is guys wanting sex.
    i really need some support and ideas from other low income guys on how they get around the money issue when it comes to healthy eating and working out.
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    Jan 08, 2010 6:44 AM GMT
    going for long walks- ideally 2 hours -, at a brisk pace will give surprising results if you're persistent and don't eat the wrong stuff when you get back .
    drink water , no juice, no soda, but 1% milk is good,
    squeeze some lemon juice ( from fresh fruits, not the frozen stuff) into your water, add a bit of spear mint leaves if you can buy some. It gives a great flavor.
    all that doesn't cost much.

    yogurt at .1%fat, unflavored contains good protein, no fat, no cholesterol, no sugar and low sodium.
    I found one brand here : Liberty Svelt, but i don't know if it's available in the US.
    But that one isn't cheap.

    do you eat much meat? Cutting from meat is a sure ticket to losing weight if you're careful what you replace it with : high protein , low sugar stuff.
    For example : beans mixed with rice give you complete proteins , good carbs, and fill you up. And it's way cheap.
    I didn't mention cutting from sugar, because that's a given , which you already know . Eat more fruits.
    Salads are great also, but don't buy any dressing, Make your own with some olive oil ( i prefer sesame oil ) , vinegar ( balsamic, wine, rice ) ... no salt. I even mix yogurt and mixed nuts ( unsalted) into my dressing sometimes ( i'm vegetarian ) to increase protein content.


    Hot cereal, porridge is also good, fills you up and can be used as snack time food .

    i take it you don't want to or can't invest in a gym membership ?
    walking running, xc skiing, and swimming are good to burn calories because you're moving the large muscle groups.
    XC skiing is actually considered the best of all.



  • PipHop

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    Jan 08, 2010 9:11 AM GMT
    Regardless of what you change your diet to, you're going to have to start regularly exercising. Look at your equipment the same way you look at other expenditures; you wouldn't pay for cable and not look at it. You wouldn't buy a car and not drive it. It sounds like you really need to get out of the house for exercise. Do you have an ipod or portable music device? A friend of mine that was in the same predicament as you, began walking at night, listening to music and began to lose weight that way. Within weeks, he was able to start jogging a bit, and now he regularly runs. Sometimes a change of scenery, if only temporary, is enough to change us inside.icon_wink.gif You sound like you're really ready to improve your health, best of luck with your efforts.
  • zakariahzol

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    Jan 27, 2010 2:15 PM GMT
    Join Biggest Loser Club. Its help me. Most information in there was something I already know, but it great to be in a group. And to belong to like minded people with the same goal.

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    Jan 27, 2010 2:32 PM GMT
    Hi, thanks for posting. I have no doubt there are people here who can give you far better advice than I can. I can sympathize with the high cost of healthy food, it's crazy how much money one can spend on the grocery store and only come out with a bag or two. I hope you can get some good advice in here and get your motivation cracking. You need a regimented program... I really don't think ad hoc workouts are very effective for creating momentum. Scan through the forums here, I've found some fantastic advice for my goals and I know you'll find some here.

    Good luck and stick with it!


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    Jan 27, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    join me on the P90X program... it's doing good stuff for me.
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    Jan 27, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
    Dont eat processed food. Anything with a label is out.

    Eat cruciferous veggies to detox your liver and body to get it back track metabolically. Use Beano if these veggies make you gaseous.

    Eat yogurt with live cultures to repopulated your gut and improve your digestion. Include vinegar in your diet if you have stomach digestive problems.
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    What is your diet and exercise regimen like now? We can't make recommendations without knowing what you are doing.

    And, here is an idea. Have that sex. Find one of those guys who wants sex, bring him over and use the workout as a form of foreplay. Then, when you have done your duty on the bike and the bowflex, have sweaty sex.

    That way, you do your exercise and you get your reward. Pavlov would approve.
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:14 PM GMT
    Consider food as poison and medicine. Eat medicinally, only to heal yourself.
  • xKorix

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    Jan 27, 2010 5:19 PM GMT
    Could try a high fat(saturated ~ coconut oil, mono-saturated ~ olive oil, Omega-3 polyunsaturated ~ fish oil, avoid any other vegetable oils.), high protein, medium to low carb diet. Stick to the good simple stuff(whole eggs, lean meats, leafy greens, oatmeal, whole grains btw garlic is great on anything icon_biggrin.gif). Works great for me, energy's consistent throughout the day, rarely starving or hungry. What is your current diet like?
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
    Having been there (and still feeling like it, sometimes), I fully understand. If you're truly committed to changing, you will find a way. If I had a bowflex in my house, I can tell you I would look like most of the guys on this site, gladly!

    As far as the food and budget go, you can do it. It will take patience, research and support. Farmers markets are a great place to get fresh produce and even other goods that will almost always be cheaper and fresher than in the grocery stores. Finding a "healthier" food store might help, as more times than not, their employees are more than happy to help you with meal planning, and showing you how to shop there on a budget.

    I totally agree with the above mention of a change of scenery. Get out. Take walks.

    Food wise; read labels...always. Simply avoiding ADDED sugar and white starches along with some form of exercise that gets your heart going, will do wonders all by itself. This is a great place to start, speaking from experience. If you're a sugaraholic, find an alternative that works for you; diet sodas (if you must have sodas), Truvia (good alternative to the more evil artficial sweeteners), dark chocolate (in moderation), sweet potatoes instead of white potatoes. Find a way to get greens (kale is the best hands down), beans and nuts into your diet. If you want to take that further, read up a little on the ANDI scale (aggregate nutrient density index). We've started labelling foods' scores at work, and it's helped me make some more informed food choices as well.

    This is all stuff that I've made a part of my routine and everyday life. Not even advice so much as my experience, that I've had surprisingly great success with.

    Good luck to you! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:28 PM GMT
    I'd recommend a couple of things. First, start keeping a journal of what you eat. Recording the calories help you see what you are eating; and looking at the nutritional labels reminds you to go for low fat foods. It's not very exciting, but it's important to keep track. If you're just trying to lose weight, it's about more calories out than in.

    Second, forget strength training for now and just focus on cardio. There's time for weights later, get rid of the excess weight now. People will tell you muscle builds more calories, but it's negligible. The time spent lifting is much better spent doing cardio at this point in your life.

    You're going to have to figure out an activity you enjoy. Swimming, walking, step aerobics, whatever. Experiment! Don't be afraid to try something you've never thought of before. Running is the least expensive option, you just need good shoes. Start by walking, then move up when you're ready. Does your city have a Front Runners group? Here in Orlando we meet 3 times a week at different times to walk or run in a group. Right away you'd make some new friends that are wanting to be active. If you don't have one, start one!

    Anyone that ever lost a pound thinks they have great answers to your question, but ultimately it rests on you to find a program that you can stick with.
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    alexjroe saidI really need help, ive been trying to lose weight for 2 years now, i started at 292lbs and after 2 years im only 287lbs.
    Im on a tight budget so i try to eat healthy and buy what i need from one pay check and when i run out i dont have enough money from the next pay check to keep it up and end up buying the cheap non healthy foods.
    i have a bowflex in my liveing room but can never find the motivation to use it and a recumbent bike as well. ive done a shout out to guys in abbotsford (my home town) for a work out buddy and ad *no sex just work out* and all i get is guys wanting sex.
    i really need some support and ideas from other low income guys on how they get around the money issue when it comes to healthy eating and working out.


    Walk.
    Carbs are cheap. Oatmeal, rice, potatoes, pasta, grits.
    Protein can be cheap if you buy meat on special / clearance.
    You can get a job at the gym.

    Put your mind to work.
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    Jan 27, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    McGay saidConsider food as poison and medicine. Eat medicinally, only to heal yourself.


    Listen to McGay.

    Correct your relationship with food. The rest will follow.
  • Richbehr

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    Mar 01, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
    Lentils contain the most protein of all the beans and are inexpensive and filling. My favorite way to prepare them is to saute some garlic,onion,celery,carrots in some olive oil until soft. Then I add 2 or 3 cans of chicken broth(or any other flavor) and add 1/2 bag of lentils. Simmer until lentils and vegtables are soft. I usually take this for lunch and can get several days out of this. Simple, easy, inexpensive and nutritious.
  • alexjroe

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    Apr 06, 2010 9:47 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidWhat is your diet and exercise regimen like now? We can't make recommendations without knowing what you are doing.

    And, here is an idea. Have that sex. Find one of those guys who wants sex, bring him over and use the workout as a form of foreplay. Then, when you have done your duty on the bike and the bowflex, have sweaty sex.

    That way, you do your exercise and you get your reward. Pavlov would approve.



    when i can aford good food, i eat 60g of mixed nuts in the morning for breakfast, then a bag of veggies, 1 carrot, 2 celery sticks, 2 radishs and 10 snow peas for first break at work, then for lunch i have a bowl of tomato soup or a large baby greens salad with one TB spoon of low fat cream dressing, then for secound break i have a kashi 7 grain snack bar (140cal) for dinner i have a filet of basa fish and 1 cup rice with lemon ms. dash.
    cost total aprox 4$ cdn.

    now when i cant aford food i skip breakfast, have a small bag of cheezes from the verdor machine for snack, a bistro crustini sandwich for lunch, and skip my break snack, for dinner i over eat becuase im so hungry normaly a huge amount of spagetti, becuase at the end of the day my tummy yells loader then my mind does and i dont make the right choices.
    cost total aprox 4$ cdn

    which pisses me off cuase its the same cost and yets my budget cant work it in. grrrr

    as for the sex, unfortunatly im WAY too self conchese to do that, i would never let any one see me naked, if i cant stand the look of me i wont belive any one else would ether.
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    Apr 06, 2010 10:06 AM GMT
    Tapeworms.
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    Apr 06, 2010 10:25 AM GMT
    Tapeworms are delicious! A little lemon, a couple capers, mm, mm, mmmmm.
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    Apr 06, 2010 10:56 AM GMT
    My trainer once told me that 80% of losing weight comes from what you eat. Meaning: Exercise because its good for you... don't exercise to try and lose weight.

    Start with something small. Change one thing at a time... especailly if you binge. Like others have said, you need to change your relationship with food and change how you view food. Food is only for fuel... not comfort. Start small and work your way up with healthier habits. It may take you a few years.

    And don't worry, I'm in the same boat--unfortunately, giving advice is much easier than following advice.
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    Apr 06, 2010 10:57 AM GMT
    It has nothing to do with money, exercise ( walks to start then runs) and cutting down on carbs,no sweets and little fat made me loose over 130 pounds ....You have to learn to eat less and split your meals over the day into little ones to fight the cravings, soon your stomach will adjust to the portions and you will feel satisfied with smaller portions...thats about it. good luck !
  • ATLANTIS7

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    Apr 06, 2010 11:00 AM GMT
    Vegetables and salads are cheap as far as i am aware in the USA?

    So that's no excuse!

    Also fruit?

    Evereyone is right sitting in front of the TV eating Big Macs will not help!


    Get out and get running or jogging or speed walking!
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    Apr 06, 2010 11:05 AM GMT
    BodrumBoy saidVegetables and salads are cheap as far as i am aware in the USA?

    So that's no excuse!

    Also fruit?

    Evereyone is right sitting in front of the TV eating Big Macs will not help!


    Get out and get running or jogging or speed walking!


    HAHA... um no.

    Thanks to the food industry, the fast food industry, the corn industry, and subsides from our government, processed foods are MUCH cheaper than fruits and veggies.

    Wow... come visit a market here and see for your self

    There is a reason why people in the lower class are six times as likely to be overweight than the other classes.
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    Apr 06, 2010 11:48 AM GMT
    Theres some good advice on here.

    When I started I just made little changes. The biggest thing I did to start was get off the sodas, having never remembered drinking pure clean water until I was 16. I did that initially by having one glass of water to one glass of soda, and then work my way down from there. Using ice-cold water is best to start.

    Same thing with bread, i might have usually had about 4 pieces at a sitting, then I decided to work down to 3, then to 2 etc.

    Biggest thing is to not beat yourself up. I did that for years and it only caused me to eat more.

    Good luck, hope it helps.

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    Apr 06, 2010 11:54 AM GMT
    Not that I'm one for promoting stuff, but you should take a look at a book called the Gabriel Effect.

    Its another approach to weight-loss that might help you. It takes a different perspective.

    Its helped me alot

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    Apr 06, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
    Living out there in Abbotsford you're surrounded by fruit and vegetable farms and farmer/local markets where you can get things cheaper than going to Safeway etc. at least half the year anyways.

    It sounds like you don't do any real exercising at all which is dooming you to being a fatty for eternity. Walk, go biking or hiking, just do it. Get out on a real bike, nothing more boring than an exercise bike in your own home. Pedal that fat ass away outside where it's more interesting.