Abs: How much is too much?

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    Jan 09, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
    How often do you work your abdominal muscles?

    Some only once a week. Some everyday. Some every other day.

    How much is too much? I've heard that you can work your abs out everyday, but then again....I've also heard that working them out everyday is bad.

    My abs are my Achilles’ heel, my problemed area. Any tips/suggestions?

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    Jan 09, 2010 9:39 AM GMT
    shuichiro saidHow often do you work your abdominal muscles?

    Some only once a week. Some everyday. Some every other day.

    How much is too much? I've heard that you can work your abs out everyday, but then again....I've also heard that working them out everyday is bad.

    My abs are my Achilles’ heel, my problemed area. Any tips/suggestions?



    100 crunches a day and I various kinds...from the Ab ball to a machine......

    100 min DAILY!
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    Jan 09, 2010 9:53 AM GMT
    as always depends on your goal.
  • Bunjamon

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    Jan 09, 2010 2:05 PM GMT
    Mystic_Man said
    shuichiro saidHow often do you work your abdominal muscles?

    Some only once a week. Some everyday. Some every other day.

    How much is too much? I've heard that you can work your abs out everyday, but then again....I've also heard that working them out everyday is bad.

    My abs are my Achilles’ heel, my problemed area. Any tips/suggestions?



    100 crunches a day and I various kinds...from the Ab ball to a machine......

    100 min DAILY!


    Your abs need rest to grow just like any other muscle you're building. Doing to failure every day is not going to help them as much as going to failure once or twice a week and resting in between.

    Also, abs are very often a diet thing. You can have very strong abs but if you have a high body fat content they'll never show.
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:10 PM GMT
    Supposedly, you only need 20 - 25 crunches X 3 sets per day. 100 minimum seems too much... and yeah, it's all about your diet. For example, polishing off an entire loaf of bread like I did yesterday, isn't going to help icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
    Mysticman's method is clearly working for him.
    But I target a muscle group no more frequently than once a week...and even then I don't approach 100 of anything in a set.
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:26 PM GMT
    I do 150-250 (crunches, sit-ups) 4-5x a week.
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:29 PM GMT
    Mystic_Man said
    shuichiro saidHow often do you work your abdominal muscles?

    Some only once a week. Some everyday. Some every other day.

    How much is too much? I've heard that you can work your abs out everyday, but then again....I've also heard that working them out everyday is bad.

    My abs are my Achilles’ heel, my problemed area. Any tips/suggestions?



    100 crunches a day and I various kinds...from the Ab ball to a machine......

    100 min DAILY!



    Sweet! I will go with your opinion...seems like you know what your talking about. There are a few iPhone/iTouch apps for abs that help you count off how many crunches you do every day. There seems to be hundreds of ab exercises nowadays, including pilates movements. So far the most interesting ones I've seen is the Dead Bug and the Bicycle Crunch.
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    Bunjamon said
    Mystic_Man said
    shuichiro saidHow often do you work your abdominal muscles?

    Some only once a week. Some everyday. Some every other day.

    How much is too much? I've heard that you can work your abs out everyday, but then again....I've also heard that working them out everyday is bad.

    My abs are my Achilles’ heel, my problemed area. Any tips/suggestions?



    100 crunches a day and I various kinds...from the Ab ball to a machine......

    100 min DAILY!


    Your abs need rest to grow just like any other muscle you're building. Doing to failure every day is not going to help them as much as going to failure once or twice a week and resting in between.

    Also, abs are very often a diet thing. You can have very strong abs but if you have a high body fat content they'll never show.


    LOL! No offense, but have we looked at Mystic_Man's abs? icon_eek.gif I think he knows what he is talking about.
    Frankly I have seen much better results from working them daily. Always had a 4, but since going daily, a 6 is starting to show! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Keith
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    Jan 09, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
    I do abs three times per week, but I try to mix up what I do each time by something different each workout. My split look like this:

    Day one - crunches: 4x25 twisting crunches on decline bench

    Day two - weighted moves (I didn't start to see them pop until I started doing things like these): 3x15 cable crunches, 3x15 high cable oblique crunch, 3x10 ab machine crunch. Moderately heavy weight for all.

    Day three - isometrics: 4x1min planks, 4x1min side planks, 3x15 hanging or captain's chair leg raise

    I think you can definitely do too much, but I think that depends a lot on the individual. It wouldn't work for me to do them every day, but then again, I don't work out every day either.

    --Carlos
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 09, 2010 3:05 PM GMT
    I do 2 sets of 40-to-60 reps of abs 5 times a week, but try to do different exercises each time

    Flutter kicks



    Medicine Ball situps



    Hanging Knee Raises




    Incline situps

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    Jan 09, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    The biggest issue with abs is diet, then genetics, then your work. Some people just store their fat at their stomach, for example, and all the ab work in the world still won't give you the look that you want. With that in mind, it doesn't hurt to keep trying. Just be realistic and manage your expectations.

    I do 3 sets of 10 hanging knee raises 6 days a week, skipping on the day I do the long distance run of the week. And I make sure I have 24 hours in between each workout.
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    Jan 09, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    3 times a week is fine since you aren't going see more definition after a certain point. Form is more important than reps but cutting out processed sugar and processed carbs trumps everything.
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    Jan 09, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
    Judging by your photos, you don't have an ab problem so I am assuming you just want a six pack or more definition purely for aesthetic purposes. You certainly aren't unhealthy or need better abs from that perspective. That said, you are probably just fine with the routine you have now, you just need to focus on diet and cardio more. Burn the little bit of body fat you have and the abs will come.
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    Jan 09, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
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    LOL! No offense, but have we looked at Mystic_Man's abs? icon_eek.gif I think he knows what he is talking about.

    No he doesn't really, he is just a mesomorph. I guarantee that if he lightened his load to abs 4x a week he would still have the same results.

    Ecto's and Endos have infinitely more trouble than someone like Mystic whom we all love.

    Abs are 85% diet, 15% workout. Most of us are "ripped" underneath the thick skin and fat.

    I taught a 30 minutes ab class five times a week last semester, my abs are the same. Ectomorphs have it hard.
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    Jan 09, 2010 6:53 PM GMT
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    Musclequest said
    LOL! No offense, but have we looked at Mystic_Man's abs? icon_eek.gif I think he knows what he is talking about.

    No he doesn't really, he is just a mesomorph. I guarantee that if he lightened his load to abs 4x a week he would still have the same results.

    Ecto's and Endos have infinitely more trouble than someone like Mystic whom we all love.

    Abs are 85% diet, 15% workout. Most of us are "ripped" underneath the thick skin and fat.

    I taught a 30 minutes ab class five times a week last semester, my abs are the same. Ectomorphs have it hard.


    He doesn't know what he is talking about? That's a pretty bold statement. (But from your credentials on your profile, you seem qualified to be so cheeky.) icon_wink.gif
    All I can speak from is personal experience. Since training abs daily 4 months ago, and not changing my diet, I have gone from the 4 pack I have had for bloody years, ZZZzzzZZZzzz....., to finally seeing a 6 pack. So it works for some.
    Cheers,
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    Jan 09, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    /jealous.
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    Jan 09, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
    I'm a personal trainer and I'd advise clients, depending on their goals, to do their abs no more than 3 times per week.

    Just like every other muscle, when you do an exercise on them the muscle tears and during recovery grows back stronger. Hence, you need to allow 24-48 hours for them to recover in order to see some progress in which time you should still be consuming protein.

    Adding weight to your exercises will make the muscle grow more rapidly hence it'll be more visible where as isometric exercises will lengthen the muscles and improve tone.
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    Jan 09, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
    Pinny said/jealous.

    Jealous? Jealous of what? It seems to be working for me.
    Hopefully continuous improvement will continue.
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    Jan 09, 2010 7:52 PM GMT
    For thinner guys, it's a lil easier to get the abs to pop! For the more average build guys, it seems to be easier to get the 4. What I have notice personally is that many guys forget to work their lower abs. hanging knee raises are great, but I would suggest raising the legs straight out in front of the body (gymnastic Ls). I usually hold a few secs per rep when attacking the abs. I hope that this has been helpful or at least informational to someone! icon_smile.gif

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    Jan 09, 2010 7:58 PM GMT
    I do them at the beginng of each workout, and I lift 3 days break one day lift another 3. I normally do 4 Ab exercises with 3-4 sets. Ranging from stability ball stuff to floor stuff. I do find the stability ball a must have. It really just helps you increase your balance and work the core at the same time. I love it.

    Adam Ford has some nice video's regarding the stability ball. But they are kinda hard.

    And as everyone above said, diet nutrition ect. You'll be well on your way to that 6 or 8 pack!icon_smile.gif
  • auryn

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    Jan 09, 2010 7:58 PM GMT
    I just started the Ultimate abs in 10 minutes (or less) workout. It takes me a little more than 10 min to get through all three sets, but we'll see if it's a good one by the end of the month.

    There are are a lot of articles on ab workouts here. Check some of them out.
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    Jan 09, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
    Let's reiterate again, abs are muscles. Abdominal exercises firm and tighten the muscle....THEY DO NOT HELP YOU SHOW A SIX PACK! Losing the bodyfat that COVERS the abs will show the six pack. You can do whatever "Ultimate" 10 minute or 5 minute program all you want to and it will NOT give you a six pack if you aren't watching your diet and doing your cardio, PERIOD!
  • WILDCARD73

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    Jan 09, 2010 9:27 PM GMT
    it should be according to your body's response
    everyone is different

    listen to your body and how you react to training
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    Jan 09, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
    Musclequest said
    Pinny said/jealous.

    Jealous? Jealous of what? It seems to be working for me.
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    That's what I am jealous of. I see no improvement mainly because I a.) don't give my muscles rest as I teach constantly and b.) bc I hardly eat.