Protein Before Carbs

  • iiheartwaves

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    Jan 09, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
    I went to lunch today and with a friend and we both got chicken on rice. For taste, i like to mix the two when eating it. But i noticed my friend ate all of his chicken before moving on to the rice. When i asked him why he did that he said he wanted to his digestive enzymes to absorb the maximum amount of protein before moving onto the carbs. Is this true? will your body intake more protein by eating proteins before carbs, rather than mixing them together?
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    Jan 10, 2010 12:56 AM GMT
    I don't think your friend is gaining much by separating the carbs and protein because their times for digestion are different. Simple carbs like sucrose (table sugar) and maltose take only 5 to 10 minutes to digest. Complex carbs like brown rice may take 90 minutes to digest. Protein in meat such as steak, pork, and chicken can take 2 to 5 hours to digest.Your friend has digested and absorbed his rice long before his chicken has been digested. There are proteins that take much less time to digest. Whey is digested the fastest and takes only an hour.
    It is recommended for muscle building and performance that carbs and protein ( in a ratio of 3:1 respectively) be ingested together. The carb helps in several ways. The carb rebuilds glycogen stores which is used for energy. Carbs also stimulate the pancreas to secrete insulin. Insulin encourages the muscle to take up protein and testosterone. Testosterone is essential for muscle growth. Insulin also will raise serum levels of growth hormone and IGF-1 (an anabolic hormone).
    I'm not a nutritionist or an expert on the matter. I would be interested in what others have to say.
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    Jan 10, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    Your friend is full of it.

    However,.....carbs have more bulk, and, raise your blood sugar, SO, if you eat them last you'll be able to shovel more in before satiation. Fats keep you satiated longer, though.

    Drinking water will help make you feel full faster, too, and aid in digestion.

    If you're wanting to drive more protein into the cell, you need the shuttle hormone insulin. You can drive insulin up with fast sugars, or go buy it any Walmart. Insulin is a powerful peptide, and the most anabolic of all hormones. Of course, to much insulin and you can have fatal results. UNLESS YOU COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND ITS USE, YOU SHOULD NOT CONSIDER USING INSULIN IN YOUR TRAINING. A mistake as little as 1/10 of 1ml could KILL YOU. Insulin, like growth hormone, is not soluble in lipids and therefore is NOT a steroid. (It's a peptide.)

    Type 2 diabetes, a 100% preventable disease is when the human body becomes insulin resistant, through improper diet and lack of high intensity exercise, and blood sugar goes dangerously high. Type 2 diabetes can be prevented with as few as 2 high intensity exercise sessions weekly.

    Type 1 diabetes is an auto-immune disease where the body destroys its own insulin-making beta cells, and there is no insulin created endogenously.

    Testosterone's androgen properties are responsible for masculinization.. Its anabolic properties promote muscle recovery and growth.

    The bodybuilding giants of today are the results of superior training, genetics, androgens, t3/t4, pump and pose, and the intelligent use of exogenous insulin, along with inhibition of estrogen, and prolactin, and, sometimes, growth hormone.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Jan 10, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    your body takes care of itself. What you eat today might not be used until tomorrow. Your body stores nutrients until it needs them.
  • tittan

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    Jan 10, 2010 3:48 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidyour body takes care of itself. What you eat today might not be used until tomorrow. Your body stores nutrients until it needs them.



    That´s not true, if you are not using proteins at the time you have digested them, the body will through them away, if the is no muscle o fibers to built it will go out by the way with out storaging...
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    Jan 10, 2010 6:07 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy saidyour body takes care of itself. What you eat today might not be used until tomorrow. Your body stores nutrients until it needs them.


    That's absolutely not true. Some things are "just in time" and water soluble. Once your carbs (glycogen) is loaded, it either gets stored, or dumped, same thing with protein.

    You need to further research digestion / nutrition before you make such a proclamation.

    Carbons chains (fats, lipids, MCT, carbs, sugars, etc.) are either stored, burned, or excreted. Proteins are not stored beyond the ability of your body to shuttle it into your cells. You don't have a water-soluble vitamin storage organ, nor a protein storage organ (muscle have protein and in starvation mode are canibalized). Fat stores carb chains (more tightly bonded than carbs, or alcohol).

    You're way, way, way, off.

    Your ability to upload carbs and nutrition is enhanced in the golden hour or so post workout where it can be up remarkably higher. You can only digest so much at a given time, and that's why small meals often are critical to good nutrition and optimized training. Timing IS everything.