Prison Sex...

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    Jan 08, 2008 12:42 PM GMT
    What do you guys think of the guys in prison that have sex with other men but dont identify themselves as being gay?

    It almost seems expected and ok for them to because they are in prison but those of us that do it because we are gay are scrutinized.
  • zakariahzol

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    Jan 08, 2008 1:25 PM GMT
    When there no women around what do you expect. I heard somewhere that the reason San Francisco start becoming gay city is when there a unbalance of too many men over women in the beginning of last century. I was in the army once. I could be spending days in army camp with no interaction with other women at all. Gay sex happen among this army personal.

    One of my straight friend who work in a ship when they be sailing for months ,told me he have to sleep with a knive under the pillow in case some unwanted guys coming over to rape him. Among foreign man worker in my country (foreign women are not allow in) is common to see two men holding hand lovingly.

    I mean they have to find somewhere to release this sexual frustration.
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    Jan 09, 2008 8:19 AM GMT
    I am not a criminal but have been into some prisons to help on a sociolinguistic assesment of jail language. I can only say that unless you have seen and heard what actualy hapens in these places from the people in these places it might be a somewhat better idea to rather just stick to the fantacy side of it all. and not know the truth... it's not fun.
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    Jan 09, 2008 11:06 AM GMT
    It is indeed horrible what happens inside. It is a world of codes, imposed behaviours... If you want to know about it, I recommend you to read the book FISH by T.J. Parsell. Not only a really nice book, but also somewhat educative about this underworld.

    You can read the synopsis, for example here:

    http://todoestailuminado.blogspot.com/2007/12/fish.html


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    Jan 09, 2008 5:37 PM GMT
    I just remembered...a friend of mine once worked in a prison. Apparently some of the male inmates there discovered a new use for M&M candies. The candy that is advertised not to melt in the hands does, apparently, melt elsewhere.

    I didn't eat chocolate for a week after hearing that anecdote.
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    Jan 09, 2008 6:07 PM GMT
    I know people that work in that industry. In Canada M/M sex is much more common in the Federal pens where they are imprisoned for much longer.

    I have a female friend who had to console a prisoner in one of the provincial jails after he was raped. The men would not do it feeling the victim would be less upset if a woman talked to him (I agree).

    Discard the notion that sex in prison is some great sexual experience, most of the time it is rape. Furthermore, the prevalence of HIV is fairly high in the prison population so it can also be dangerous.
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    Jan 09, 2008 6:27 PM GMT

    Yes, agreed. Just like rape itself, prison sex often becomes a means of exerting control or dominance, one more method of demeaning and/or subjugating and inflicting psychological terror on others. My M&M anecdote wasn't meant to bring levity to the situation, jbedwards. I was eating them at the time the coworker mentioned the factoid, and that's why the anecdote stuck in my mind.
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    Jan 09, 2008 8:27 PM GMT
    Don't worry Zdrew78 no offense was taken. Everytime I mention where I work gay people start making silly comments about prison sex, as if it is something that is exciting. As you described it is usually humiliating, painful, degrading, and like I said potentially deadly.
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    Jan 09, 2008 8:49 PM GMT
    I hope I didnt give the impression that I thought it was a great thing...you just here alot about it, even shows like OZ. I just find it funny alot of the guys that maybe would never consider being with a man in the real world change their feelings about it in prison.

    I understand the circumstances create a need, but I am sure there are alot of guys in prison that even though they have needs dont want men...but some change their feelings towards it to satisfy their needs. I wonder if they consider themselves bi during all of this and when they get out do they still want to be with men occassionally?
  • htkhkhya

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    May 18, 2010 5:32 AM GMT
    Uhm, if this thing is always happen, I will think of going to jail lol, have a nice day.
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    May 18, 2010 7:51 AM GMT
    prison sex sucks i seen so many movies where the guys get raped or gang banged ouch..sucks to be them

    especially when its a new inmate,new meat and they become someones bitch..........
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    Jun 04, 2010 3:46 AM GMT
    A "prison fantasy" is attractive from the perspective of one who as freedom of choice to "call the scene off". It's kind of like "rape fantasy". Even in a safe, sane, consensual SM play scene, these fantasies can be quite powerful, and are nothing like real life.

    In the real world, where you cannot escape, "might makes right", corrections officers are stretched beyond their ability to intervene even if they do catch a prison rape in the act, may not be able to intervene for their own safety, the reality is much more stark and barbaric.

    Some of the nicest, hottest guys I met while bringing a rehabilitative outreach into a prison were in for violent or murderous crimes.

    Even dressed in my loose fitting long sleeved and baggy clothes, I felt like I was being eyed by hungry animals when I was passing through the lock up area.

    Rape Fantasy scenes can also be particularly difficult to stage so that the fantasy "rapist" does not inadvertently become charged with sexual battery or rape. A signed consent agreement witnessed by a notary, sealed in a tamper-evident envelope within a tamper-evident mailing envelope, mailed in advance to an address and left "unopened" until the scene happens and ends (without incident), followed with a signed release witnessed and signed in the presence of a notary are perhaps about the only precautions that a "rape fantasy" top can take to prevent unwanted legal consequences. And even then, no guarantees.
    Remember, you cannot contract to do something illegal. And, in the course of a scene, if the "victim" wants to take back their right to say "No", then "No" still means "No".

    Too much risk for me. I wouldn't engage in anything like this. Besides, violent sexual activity is not my bag.