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What do you guys think of the guys in prison that have sex with other men but dont identify themselves as being gay?

It almost seems expected and ok for them to because they are in prison but those of us that do it because we are gay are scrutinized.

When there no women around what do you expect. I heard somewhere that the reason San Francisco start becoming gay city is when there a unbalance of too many men over women in the beginning of last century. I was in the army once. I could be spending days in army camp with no interaction with other women at all. Gay sex happen among this army personal.

One of my straight friend who work in a ship when they be sailing for months ,told me he have to sleep with a knive under the pillow in case some unwanted guys coming over to rape him. Among foreign man worker in my country (foreign women are not allow in) is common to see two men holding hand lovingly.

I mean they have to find somewhere to release this sexual frustration.

I am not a criminal but have been into some prisons to help on a sociolinguistic assesment of jail language. I can only say that unless you have seen and heard what actualy hapens in these places from the people in these places it might be a somewhat better idea to rather just stick to the fantacy side of it all. and not know the truth... it's not fun.

It is indeed horrible what happens inside. It is a world of codes, imposed behaviours... If you want to know about it, I recommend you to read the book FISH by T.J. Parsell. Not only a really nice book, but also somewhat educative about this underworld.

You can read the synopsis, for example here:

http://todoestailuminado.blogspot.com/2007/12/fish.html

I just remembered...a friend of mine once worked in a prison. Apparently some of the male inmates there discovered a new use for M&M candies. The candy that is advertised not to melt in the hands does, apparently, melt elsewhere.

I didn't eat chocolate for a week after hearing that anecdote.

I know people that work in that industry. In Canada M/M sex is much more common in the Federal pens where they are imprisoned for much longer.

I have a female friend who had to console a prisoner in one of the provincial jails after he was raped. The men would not do it feeling the victim would be less upset if a woman talked to him (I agree).

Discard the notion that sex in prison is some great sexual experience, most of the time it is rape. Furthermore, the prevalence of HIV is fairly high in the prison population so it can also be dangerous.

Yes, agreed. Just like rape itself, prison sex often becomes a means of exerting control or dominance, one more method of demeaning and/or subjugating and inflicting psychological terror on others. My M&M anecdote wasn't meant to bring levity to the situation, jbedwards. I was eating them at the time the coworker mentioned the factoid, and that's why the anecdote stuck in my mind.

Don't worry Zdrew78 no offense was taken. Everytime I mention where I work gay people start making silly comments about prison sex, as if it is something that is exciting. As you described it is usually humiliating, painful, degrading, and like I said potentially deadly.

I hope I didnt give the impression that I thought it was a great thing...you just here alot about it, even shows like OZ. I just find it funny alot of the guys that maybe would never consider being with a man in the real world change their feelings about it in prison.

I understand the circumstances create a need, but I am sure there are alot of guys in prison that even though they have needs dont want men...but some change their feelings towards it to satisfy their needs. I wonder if they consider themselves bi during all of this and when they get out do they still want to be with men occassionally?