Is "Avatar" so good... it's causing people to develop (or discuss their) depression... "Post-Avatar Depression"??

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    Jan 15, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
    Apparently... there's a multitude of people who have expressed their feelings of depression over the internet. What do you think of "Post-Avatar Depression"? Is it about the movie or is it about the state of their current life? Check out the CNN discussion:

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    Jan 15, 2010 9:18 PM GMT
    it was such powerful escapism for me, i was 'bothered' for several days after seeing it... i was sorta sad to come back to 'this world'. gotta take the lessons and apply them to our own world. that should be the case with powerful, positive social messages.

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    Jan 15, 2010 9:26 PM GMT
    I like what the comedienne Paula Poundstone said on NPR about the movie:

    "I fell asleep during AVATAR. Big nose bridges exhaust me."
  • Glorfindel

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    Jan 15, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    I was amazed by the world Cameron created and have seen it twice. Both times in 3D. But really? To get depressed when you "come back" to the real world? WTF?!

    Sorry, I'm an unforgiving asshole. icon_smile.gif

    It's about them just wanting to whine and say "boohoo to me" and not taking any personal responsibility for trying to change their own lives if they don't like something about it. If a fake 3D movie is more interesting and "real" to you (the proverbial general "you") than the REAL 3D world that we live in, then you need to refocus your energies. There isn't any message in this movie that hasn't been delivered before in a better way, so this depression could be associated with many films. The only thing Cameron did was take it to 3D.

    Also, calling it here first (part of the unforgiving asshole thing):

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    Jan 15, 2010 9:38 PM GMT
    What depresses me is the amount of people that are making this film into an oeuvre hors paires
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    Jan 15, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
    Ok, I think I might just see it.

    I normally don't go see movies at the theater, but everyone is telling me how depressed they were when they left.

    So I guess it must be that good.
  • iiheartwaves

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    Jan 15, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
    I read this article while waiting for the movie to start
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/avatar.movie.blues/And my friend and I were laughing about it. what the heck, how could 1000's of people be suffering from depression about this fictional world. it didn't make sense.

    It's strange because while the movie was on, i was not on Earth, I was on Pandora. I was so emotionally invested in the movie, that i felt like i had visited this amazing fictional place. Even if you would have asked me after the movie, i would have told you yeah, Pandora is a real place. It absolutely is.

    The Worst part of the movie experience was walking outside of the movie theatre. You're definitely back on Earth, and it sucks ( in comparison to Pandora). I spent the night thinking about the movie... and the next day, and the next day. All happy thoughts on how amazingly the movie was made. And wondering if there really is a planet out there that parallel's Pandora.

    I don't think that Avatar causes depression. But i do think if any movie is going to magnify it, its this one.
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    Jan 15, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
    It's one of those films where I just think... NAH, I don't even want to be bothered watching it. trailers and teasers do absolutely nothing for me, I'm somehow instantly tired just by coming across them on tv.

    felt exactly the same about Titanic... hated it even though I've only seen trailers, which is less than 2 continuous minutes of it.

    with some movies you just know... I'll never ever watch that unless someone straps me to a chair, fix my head and force my eyelids open... like in clockwork orange
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    Jan 15, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    judoguy saidIt's one of those films where I just think... NAH, I don't even want to be bothered watching it. trailers and teasers do absolutely nothing for me, I'm somehow instantly tired just by coming across them on tv.

    felt exactly the same about Titanic... hated it even though I've only seen trailers, which is less than 2 continuous minutes of it.

    with some movies you just know... I'll never ever watch that unless someone straps me to a chair, fix my head and force my eyelids open... like in clockwork orange


    I think most of James Cameron's Movies don't attract people via trailers and advertisements. The trailer for Avatar sucked, it looked like another boring sci-fi based off the trailer. Everybody goes to Cameron's movies because of word of mouth.
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    Jan 15, 2010 9:54 PM GMT
    This is nothing more than a PR stunt. I have worked for several agencies over the years, and have had more than my share of entertainment industry clients. This "news" falls in line with the type of campaign used for big-budget movies in order to maximize ticket sales around the time that sales begin to fall.

    There are mktg. and PR agencies here in Manhattan that do nothing but blog and post in forums for their clients. While it's expensive, it's easy to create a trend and build media momentum. It's short-lived, but very effective.
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    Jan 15, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    reppaT saidThis is nothing more than a PR stunt. I have worked for several agencies over the years, and have had more than my share of entertainment industry clients. This "news" falls in line with the type of campaign used for big-budget movies in order to maximize ticket sales around the time that sales begin to fall.

    I don't disagree with your point. Viral marketing and "creating" trends can be very very effective and (relatively) inexpensive since signing up for a forum account is free (but paying someone to do it for you isn't, lol).

    However, I do believe (as previous people have posted here) that there are actual members of these forums/blogs being affected and reflective because of this movie.
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    Jan 15, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    "widespread phenomenon"?!?! fucking infotainment shows.
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    Jan 15, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    theres a lot of marketing involved here but theres some true to it as well. I totally loved Pandora and I totally wished it existed, fuck ya it was BY FAR more interesting than planet earth.
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    Jan 15, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    This is beginning to give new meaning to the word pathetic.
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    Jan 15, 2010 11:22 PM GMT
    Sweet Jaysus.

    This sounds like The Onion. What kind of bullshit is this? The "experts" couldn't be more laughable.

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    Jan 15, 2010 11:38 PM GMT
    corridore saidSweet Jaysus.

    This sounds like The Onion. What kind of bullshit is this? The "experts" couldn't be more laughable.



    can you explain what part did not make sense? Because all they said was that as any other movie, like for instance a love movie(where part of the audience might get depressed because they cant find someone like that), avatar just brings an enjoyable experience to its audience.

    Of course the whole "wave of depression" they made it look like is just ridiculous but there are definitely many people who watched that movie(including myself) and wished Pandora actually existed. The flora and fauna was similar to that of planet earth. There was a lot we could relate to, it was just more beautiful and totally "dreamable" as if we could just make planet earth from scratch the result would be Pandora.

    Great movie.
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    Jan 15, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
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    corridore saidSweet Jaysus.

    This sounds like The Onion. What kind of bullshit is this? The "experts" couldn't be more laughable.



    can you explain what part did not make sense? Because all they said was that as any other movie, like for instance a love movie(where part of the audience might get depressed because they cant find someone like that), avatar just brings an enjoyable experience to its audience.

    Of course the whole "wave of depression" they made it look like is just ridiculous but there are definitely many people who watched that movie(including myself) and wished Pandora actually existed. The flora and fauna was similar to that of planet earth. There was a lot we could relate to, it was just more beautiful and totally "dreamable" as if we could just make planet earth from scratch the result would be Pandora.

    Great movie.


    Yeah I agree.
    It was a great movie. The whole subliminal messages and its relation to modern day issues as well as historic references were a bit too obvious, but what made it beautiful was the fact that I think everyone can relate to it.

    As far as me getting depressed? Hmmm nah. I mean there could be some people that might have had some feelings or memories or concerns sparked up and maybe reacted in such way to the movie, but there was something about the content of the movie that was beyond normal that got me a bit uncomfortable.
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    Jan 15, 2010 11:47 PM GMT
    WHEN WILL WHITE PEOPLE STOP MAKING MOVIES LIKE THIS!!!

    I saw this and aside from being amazed by the visuals, the plot line is part of the same "dances with wolves" history that's incredibly problematic.
  • Anto

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    Jan 16, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    Just go here in World of Warcraft!
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  • Acorns

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    Jan 16, 2010 12:51 AM GMT
    D:

    I felt that way. I still get sad when i hear about it.
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    Jan 16, 2010 1:00 AM GMT
    Anto saidJust go here in World of Warcraft!
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    exactly.
    or put the worlds of Myst or Uru in 3D.

    as lovely as the world of Pandora appeared, i have to confess there were a few "deja vu" flashes here and there.
    And the sound track sounded a bit too Lord of the Ring for me not to notice.

    The 3D effects of this fantasy land made it a visual feast, and there lies the one and only quality of that movie , a great one for this is cinema, but the only one.

    Some dream of the beauty of Pandora, right..after 2 months there you wouldn't even notice it anymore .
    Cameron's movies get old very fast. Who watches Titanic these days unless one's incredibly bored and desperate.

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    Jan 16, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    I was very impressed by the visual effects, especially closeups and scenes where debris or seeds or whatnot filled the air.

    I was mightily unimpressed with the storyline and the acting - the lead was not particularly good. Frankly he was more convincing when rendered. The storyline was so incredibly uninteresting, aside from the whole "trees as neurons" thing. The characters were monodimensional, and the one character who underwent development somehow still seemed like a cardboard cutout. I particularly disliked how the humans were uniformly awful, and how no backstory was developed that made one understand how the antipathy between the two parties developed.

    The movie made poor use of time, and didn't explore the world sufficiently, nor did it develop characters or show social context. Typical of Cameron.

    However the visual effects were worth seeing this movie. I hope that someone takes this technology and uses storyline in a new, interesting way.
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    Jan 16, 2010 1:52 AM GMT
    The only depressing thing about the movie or post movie was "Why hell they didn't take Sam Worthington's clothes off, when he was not the Avatar?"
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  • metlboy

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    Jan 16, 2010 2:06 AM GMT
    charlitos saidtheres a lot of marketing involved here but theres some true to it as well. I totally loved Pandora and I totally wished it existed, fuck ya it was BY FAR more interesting than planet earth.


    Maybe you should get outdoors more?
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    Jan 16, 2010 4:18 AM GMT
    They're just blowing this up for the movie. Its the same blues people get after they've come back from an incredible vacation, an incredible theater show, concert, etc. experience.

    I think they also missed the point that they were supposed to realize we do have some very beautiful things here. We are the Pandora of our reality and I think what we were to get from the film was to open our eyes and appreciate what we have. See? icon_razz.gif
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