How long after dental surgery (pulled tooth) is it safe to resume oral sex?

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    Jan 16, 2010 3:43 AM GMT
    This concerns me because a friend is planning to have sex with a hiv- partner (so he says) four weeks after they have pulled his tooth. How much of a risk is there to him. thanks for any info. John
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    Jan 16, 2010 11:56 AM GMT
    At the very least fourty eight hrs and I strongly recomen waiting until the post operation check up to avoid infecting the area and if you had bone graft you have to avoid it or yoh wasted money
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    Jan 16, 2010 2:53 PM GMT
    zzjla saidThis concerns me because a friend is planning to have sex with a hiv- partner (so he says) four weeks after they have pulled his tooth. How much of a risk is there to him. thanks for any info. John

    I lived with an HIV+ partner, now deceased, and by mutual agreement I never had unprotected oral sex with him, regardless of my dental condition. The risk of HIV infection from oral sex is still debated, still not adequately researched. The infection danger is thought to be low, but define "low" and define "thought" when little strong research exists to definitively prove either case.

    As HIV is still forever, at least with present medical science, and developing fast-acting terminal AIDS possible at any time, I think a conservative approach to oral sex is wisest. In other words, I would use a condom as we did, which may have been what kept me negative, even including our also having protected anal sex.

    I'm not a cringing coward; indeed, how many gay men won't even take a poz guy as his partner? I understand risk assessment, and I understand reasonable precautions. I would strongly advise our OP's friend to engage in some of the latter. Please...
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    Jan 16, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
    Ask the dentist.
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    Jan 16, 2010 3:47 PM GMT
    i'm told by hiv councilors that moths heal very quickly....i would think after five days without complications...but ask you local hiv clinic...or call ours in palm springs... Desert Aids Project
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    Jan 16, 2010 3:54 PM GMT
    victor8 saidi'm told by hiv councilors that moths heal very quickly...

    Well, it depends on how close the moths come to the flame... icon_wink.gif

    Sorry, sorry, sorry... bad Red, bad, bad! I couldn't resist that typo, that made me laugh when I read it.
  • darryaz

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    Jan 16, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    I had a tooth pulled in December and waited about a week. Not because of an HIV concern (I've been monogamous with my partner for over 2 years) but because it was painful until then.
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    Jan 16, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    victor8 saidi'm told by hiv councilors that moths heal very quickly....i would think after five days without complications...but ask you local hiv clinic...or call ours in palm springs... Desert Aids Project


    i 2nd this, ive heard the same, but if ur not worried about STDs and more concerned about the actual damage it might do to the surgery then i agree with the guy who said wait till the checkup to avoid infections n such
  • RubiconRider

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    Jan 16, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
    Nice timely topic...I'm getting my wisdom teeth cut out this Thursday, and my birthday is the next weekend. I'd REALLY hoped I wouldn't be celebrating with enforced chastity!!! icon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 16, 2010 9:27 PM GMT
    I talked to a gay dentist - he seems to think that two weeks is fine - I'm not sure about the two day thing - I wouldn't - so waiting four weeks is OK. thanks for all whpo replied.
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    Jan 16, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    I'm a little surprised, because I understood that any unprotected oral with an HIV+ man presents a degree of risk, regardless of dental health. The amount of risk is generally understood to be low, but existent nevertheless.

    My partner & I will be visiting our doctor in 2 weeks, who mostly specializes in HIV patients. We're both negative, so it took some doing to get us admitted to her practice, but she's also the Medical Director of the HIV/AIDS charity bicycle ride we do annually (just completed last weekend), so we wanted her as our GP.

    I'll ask her about the latest thinking regarding unprotected oral sex. I know what the US CDC say, and it's not what I'm hearing here. But I realize these things change, so I'll ask and try to get up to speed, then share it here.
  • Tyinstl

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    Jan 20, 2010 7:04 AM GMT
    RubiconRider saidNice timely topic...I'm getting my wisdom teeth cut out this Thursday, and my birthday is the next weekend. I'd REALLY hoped I wouldn't be celebrating with enforced chastity!!! icon_twisted.gif


    I'll celebrate with you.
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    Jan 20, 2010 7:38 AM GMT
    Normally, a week after the procedure and/or having any stitches removed should be safe. (Relative to ordinary oral sex.) My only concern would be if wound healing were delayed due to infection. I would think that by four weeks, your friend would have returned to have the stitches removed (for wisdom teeth) and the dentist should have mentioned any problems. If you're that concerned, get in there with a mirror and inspect the gums yourself for any sign of red marks or swelling.

    (I used to teach this stuff to dental students. Never sure if they were actually awake.)
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    Jan 20, 2010 7:44 AM GMT
    why dont you ask your doctor! DA!
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    Jan 20, 2010 7:49 AM GMT
    I wonder if a dry socket could be a real concern from oral sex after the extraction. I hear they can be real painful.
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    Oct 04, 2011 5:30 PM GMT
    This is how i took this topic:

    I'm bi-married(maybe i'm in the closet, but that's a far deeper story) and i have only one 'buddy', who is married as well. He says he's hiv- and he was upfront saying a few months back he had done oral on a guy who he thought was promiscious, but he did not let that guy cum in his mouth. (i'm sure precum got in, but that was it)

    I recently had 3 teeth pulled, 2 of those being wisdom, and the week after i had dry socket(major pain). After a couple weeks, the dentist told me all teeth/gums were healed. Now i did'nt ask her 'how long before i can give head?'..lol, as that's a bit embarrasing, as she knows i'm married.

    And while i was oh so tempted to meet up with my buddy 2 weeks after it was healed, i decided that i'd wait almost 4 weeks(25 days to be exact).

    And yes, i did oral on him(and him on me..lol, it's a 2 way street afterall), and he did not cum in my mouth, as only some precum got inside my mouth.

    I did not use Listerine up to this point, as i only use warm water with salt mixed in.

    Now it was rough to hold off for those 25 days after healing, but i had to think, what was the timeframe i need to do so, so i have no regrets? And i figured i need to wait at least 21 days, for my piece of mind.

    I'm pananoid about catching hiv, and while i would of liked to hold off for say 30 or more days, i felt content with the 25 days, which was probably way too cautious, anyway. (and i had no sex for 6 weeks, so it was not easy to wait. And I don't have sex with my wife)

    Now, i'm sure it's about 14 days or so that you need to be cautious, before doing oral once again. But that's something you may wish to think to yourself before doing so, as far as how long is enough, for your peice of mind?

    Good luck to you guys, please always think with your big head, before your little head gets you into trouble, ok?
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    Oct 04, 2011 6:02 PM GMT
    I'm a dentist, and there are a lot of factors involved in this, so don't take my word as gold by any means.

    Assuming that someone is a healthy individual and there are no complications with the extraction (bone fragments, infection, how many teeth, how large the hole/s are etc), 2 weeks should be fine.

    If you have diabetes or other health complications your healing time will be longer and you should me more careful. If you smoke (anything) your healing time will be longer and your risk of dry socket is heighten. The more alcohol you consume/have in your mouth the longer your healing time.

    However, after 2 weeks if you haven't gotten dry socket (which is when the blood clot falls out of the wound, exposing bone...rather painful.) you're not going to get dry socket.

    There's no good research showing transmission through oral sex of hiv, however...we do know that people with gum disease- because they don't floss, have poor oral hygiene, or bad genetics (rare)- have increased oral bacteria in their blood stream, increased inflammation (this is why there is an increase in birth problems with pregnant women with oral problems, and why there is a correlation to increased heart problems) and more systemic problems. Since the research is there for the other stuff it seems likely that there's an increased chance of transmission if you have gum problems. But there's nothing definitive...