It is not things, but opinions about things that have absolutely no existence, which have so deranged mankind!

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    Jan 16, 2010 10:12 PM GMT
    It is not things, but opinions about things that have absolutely no existence, which have so deranged mankind!

    from Nietzsche's Daybreak, s. 563, R.J. Hollingdale transl
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    Hi Free Spirit!
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
    Is that an athiest thinger?


    x.x i don't know so don't kill me with flames
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    Soulasphyxi saidIs that an athiest thinger?


    x.x i don't know so don't kill me with flames


    ?
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
    You're crazy !!!
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
    turbobilly saidYou're crazy !!!


    You would be the expert on crazy?
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    Ummm...it's called sarcasm?
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    turbobilly saidUmmm...it's called sarcasm?


    touche lol, although most people usually don't get my sarcasm, it's unique only to me
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    Jan 16, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
    I bet.
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    Jan 17, 2010 5:51 AM GMT
    free_spirit09 saidIt is not things, but opinions about things that have absolutely no existence, which have so deranged mankind!

    from Nietzsche's Daybreak, s. 563, R.J. Hollingdale transl


    He has indeed a point!

    But... wouldn't you say then,that from a causal perspective, opinions, that is, thoughts have far more "existance" than "mere physical things"?

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    Jan 17, 2010 5:59 AM GMT
    It is what one thinks that defiles
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    Jan 17, 2010 6:02 AM GMT
    . . . well really, it's the belief that we have beliefs that is the curse of mankind and the excuse for myriad atrocities . . .
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    Jan 17, 2010 6:23 AM GMT
    reason: A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love.

    moderation: A friend should be a master at guessing and keeping still: you must not want to see everything.

    restraint: Admiration for a quality or an art can be so strong that it deters us from striving to possess it.

    - Friedrich Nietzsche
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    Jan 17, 2010 6:24 AM GMT
    ....and when you stop to realize that there are many levels of consciousness upon which we do not really even exist.....icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 17, 2010 6:59 AM GMT
    malefeet said....and when you stop to realize that there are many levels of consciousness upon which we do not really even exist.....icon_eek.gif


    Indeed, but let's stay in this one level for the time being... *sweeps under the rug the above idea*
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    Jan 18, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    jrs1 saidreason: A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love.

    moderation: A friend should be a master at guessing and keeping still: you must not want to see everything.

    restraint: Admiration for a quality or an art can be so strong that it deters us from striving to possess it.

    - Friedrich Nietzsche


    your point?
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    Jan 18, 2010 12:33 PM GMT
    He stole that from Voltaire. I counter it with:

    It is not best that we should all think alike; it is a difference of opinion that makes horse races.

    -Mark Twain