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    Jan 10, 2008 12:37 AM GMT
    Kaiser Wilhelm II, last kaiser of Germany at the end of World War I, and Audrey Hepburn, movie star?
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    Jan 10, 2008 12:46 AM GMT
    they were somehow related..? good question for sure.
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    Jan 10, 2008 12:50 AM GMT
    not related in the sense of biological/marriage family related.
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    Jan 10, 2008 1:06 AM GMT
    i've heard about this before. somethign about him making a purchase from hepburn's gandmother? he got her old mansion maybe?
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    Jan 10, 2008 2:00 AM GMT
    You got it! That was quick.

    When the Kaiser abdicated and left Germany, he bought the estate of Aubrey Hepburn's grandmother, the Baroness van Heemstra, to "retire" to. The estate had an 18th century manor and 60 hectares of land.

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    Why did the Dutch let the kaiser take asylum in The Netherlands after World War I?
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    Jan 10, 2008 2:05 AM GMT
    He grew prize-winning tulips?

    No idea. Interesting thread, though...
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    Jan 10, 2008 2:09 AM GMT
    No, he wasnt into tulips.
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    Jan 10, 2008 2:33 AM GMT
    for good karma? that way we'd take in queen beatrix later on icon_smile.gif
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    Jan 10, 2008 2:49 AM GMT
    Karma had nothing to do with it.


    I cant believe I even have to dismiss an answer like that. ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 10, 2008 3:12 AM GMT
    i thought it was a little bit clever. but apparently not.

    we're they sorta like switzerland? didn't take any sides during the war?
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    Jan 10, 2008 3:18 AM GMT
    Geez, Caslon, you missed your calling...you shoulda been a history teacher (and I mean that as a compliment).
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    Jan 10, 2008 3:21 AM GMT
    They had remained neutral during World War I and allowed him to cross into the country. The Treaty of Versailles demanded him to be prosecuted for his crimes, but Queen Wilhelmina refused to allow him to be extradited.
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:36 AM GMT
    The Netherlands remained neutral during WWI. The Kaiser respected that neutrality. So the Dutch repaid him by giving him asylum in The Netherlands, but he was practically a prisoner on Audrey Hepburn's grandmother's estate.

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    We all know the Third Reich. When were the First and Second Reichs?
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:46 AM GMT
    Wasn't one of them Charlemagne and the Holy Roman Empire?
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:51 AM GMT
    I'm pretty sure that the first was Charlemagne's Holy Roman empire as jprichva says,and the second started with the official formation of Germany after the Franco-Prussian War. The first was very old, but the second was surprisingly recent in relative terms),
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:55 AM GMT
    Likely the second reich would have been during the realm of Otto von Bismarck, being one of Germany's greatest statesmen and also having been responsible for the reformation of Germany.
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:56 AM GMT
    First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire, second was the German Empire created in 1870 which lasted until the deposition of Kaiser Wilhelm in 1918?
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    Jan 10, 2008 5:06 AM GMT
    WOW! What an unbelievable bunch! These questions dont last but a few minutes.

    Yes The First Reich was from 800 to 1806

    Second Reich (1871 to 1918 ) was declared after the defeat of France in the Franco-Prussian War and ended with Kaiser Wilhelm II.
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    Jan 10, 2008 5:09 AM GMT
    I'm with Chewey and Antelope, good company right? But honestly darling where do you pull these things from?

    As for the dutchess, all I know is that she lived out her last days in Switzerland at a place where one of my friends worked, and was, to put it nicely, quite demanding.
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    Jan 10, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    This is just stuff I have gotten from reading.
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    Jan 10, 2008 5:36 AM GMT
    Well you should keep them coming. That last question about the reichs made me wonder how good of a history major I actually was, had I gotten it wrong. Too bad I couldn't figure out what the first reich was.
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    Jan 10, 2008 5:39 AM GMT
    Ah yes, reading is a wonderful thing, but most of us read every day without thinking -- from billboards to well, toilet paper rolls, without making those kinds of connections.

    So it's more a question of what's the trigger? Or what's the importance of the association of what you've read?
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    Jan 10, 2008 6:50 AM GMT
    wrerickSo it's more a question of what's the trigger? Or what's the importance of the association of what you've read?


    I dont understand what you are trying to ask.
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    Jan 10, 2008 7:05 AM GMT
    Why the Kaiser? Why the baroness? And why do you feel the need to expound on them? At least I imagine that they aren't the only things you've read about in one day, or the only subjects that have filtered into your mind. So why do they stand out?
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    Jan 10, 2008 4:03 PM GMT
    By popular demand, I am just coming up with trivia questions to post. I thought that one involving Aubrey Hepburn would be interesting to folks on here. Maybe I should start marking them as trivia.

    I started this with that question on canadian history, which I posted just cuz I thought it was funny (their railroad went thru Maine so they couldnt use it for moving troops) and there are so many Canadians on here.