This false belief system of Global Warming, is really making me laugh

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    Jan 18, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
    here we are in the middle of summer, and in the last 24 hours my state has seen torrential rain, hail, and even snow, up in them hills, and it's the middle of summer, in a hot dry country.

    Forgive me if I struggle with this fails concept of global warming, it's nothing more than father nature at play.
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    Jan 18, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    Does torrential rain, hail, and snow in a traditionally hot territory sound normal to you then?
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
    Sedative saidDoes torrential rain, hail, and snow in a traditionally hot territory sound normal to you then?


    This is how I can not understand how we have global warming when nobody in the world seems to be experiencing any global warming yet. Even last summer , everyone was complaning it was so cold. I hardly ever hear anyone complaining that it is too hot where they live. Everyone is always complaining that it is too cold. Isn't that a sign that we have global cooling and not global warming when everyone is too cold?
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    come to Ohio... it's strawberry spring here!
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    Which bit of "Global" don't you get? It's about *average* not local behaviour.
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
    Technically scientists say that we are reaching what the earth should be at at this point following an ice age.
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:46 PM GMT
    G_Force said
    Sedative saidDoes torrential rain, hail, and snow in a traditionally hot territory sound normal to you then?


    This is how I can not understand how we have global warming when nobody in the world seems to be experiencing any global warming yet. Even last summer , everyone was complaning it was so cold. I hardly ever hear anyone complaining that it is too hot where they live. Everyone is always complaining that it is too cold. Isn't that a sign that we have global cooling and not global warming when everyone is too cold?


    A good excuse, methinks, to send G-Force to Siberia, so he can see the melting permafrost for himself.
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    travis1325 saidTechnically scientists say that we are reaching what the earth should be at at this point following an ice age.


    No they don't!
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
    The term 'global warming' is passe. The more appropriate term is climate change. What you describe in Australia sounds like climate change to me.

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    Jan 18, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
    Don't take it so literally--global warming isn't only about hot temps. It's about aberrant temperature swings and weather, which is obviously occurring. There has been snow in Melbourne and Johannesburg, no snow in areas that always had it. Deviation from norms occurs, but the frequency is becoming extreme.
    Modern day life produces way too much pollution for it not to affect the environment on a global scale. Do you think its going off into space?
    Would you work out and deny that eating junk food does no harm because your not currently seeing the affects; you will eventually.
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    Jan 18, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
    thread title win in the category: most egregiously used comma.
  • Timbales

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    Jan 18, 2010 4:59 PM GMT
    I can't decide if people who think we can alter the earth to meet our needs and wants to such a dramatic degree without it having an effect on the climate and ecosystem are arrogant or naive.
  • DCEric

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    Jan 18, 2010 4:59 PM GMT
    Folks before you get wrapped up in this conversation look up the definitions of climate and weather. Global warming (more acurately called Climate Change) is a long term change in the mean temperature, along with other assciated factors. "this has been a cold winter" is anecdotal and is not a long term trend.

    Look up The Little Ice Age for an example of a short period where the climate changed.

    /meteorologist at work
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    Jan 18, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
    ParkourPump saidGlobal change is inevitable, humans will fail to adapt, global civilization will perish as a result... surprisingly, I have no problem with this.



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    Jan 18, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    Pattison saidhere we are in the middle of summer, and in the last 24 hours my state has seen torrential rain, hail, and even snow, up in them hills, and it's the middle of summer, in a hot dry country.

    Forgive me if I struggle with this fails concept of global warming, it's nothing more than father nature at play.


    You must be bored.
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    Jan 18, 2010 5:58 PM GMT
    DCEric saidFolks before you get wrapped up in this conversation look up the definitions of climate and weather. Global warming (more acurately called Climate Change) is a long term change in the mean temperature, along with other assciated factors. "this has been a cold winter" is anecdotal and is not a long term trend.

    Look up The Little Ice Age for an example of a short period where the climate changed.

    /meteorologist at work


    Exactly... it's the climate that is changing and that's what causes the bizarre weather around the globe.

    People need to watch The Inconvenient Truth.. like Al Gore or not... it is all explained in the movie...
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    Jan 18, 2010 6:01 PM GMT
    Pattison saidhere we are in the middle of summer, and in the last 24 hours my state has seen torrential rain, hail, and even snow, up in them hills, and it's the middle of summer, in a hot dry country.

    Forgive me if I struggle with this fails concept of global warming, it's nothing more than father nature at play.


    The torrential rains is one product of "Global warming" which is in fact more adptly named Global weirding. Melting of the Polar caps is causing all kinds of displacement in the ocean waters; think of the Icebergs floating ever closer to Downunder. That displacement is leading to more extreme weather which could mean hot and dry in some places and cold and wet in others. Scientist are still debating what could happen if this process continues. More flooding is one possibility and another ice age is another. Call it what you want. The fact is levels greenhouse gasses are on the rise and the polar caps are melting. The consequences could be devastating.
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    Jan 18, 2010 6:15 PM GMT
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    Pattison saidhere we are in the middle of summer, and in the last 24 hours my state has seen torrential rain, hail, and even snow, up in them hills, and it's the middle of summer, in a hot dry country...

    The torrential rains is one product of "Global warming" which is in fact more adptly named Global weirding.

    Yes. Models for Global Warming predicted years ago there would be unusual wild swings in weather patterns as the warming increased, and established patterns were disrupted. But the overall global average temperatures would continue to rise, despite a cold winter here and there in an odd year. Or that some locales would see colder temps for a few years.

    But the Earth's true thermometer is the polar ice caps and the mountain glaciers, which continue to shrink at record rates. But naturally, the short-sighted cannot understand this, and it is upon them whom unscrupulous business interests & politicians prey.

    Does it surprise anyone here that the OP would be one of those so unfortunately easily deluded?

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    Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
    DCEric saidFolks before you get wrapped up in this conversation look up the definitions of climate and weather. Global warming (more acurately called Climate Change) is a long term change in the mean temperature, along with other assciated factors. "this has been a cold winter" is anecdotal and is not a long term trend.

    Look up The Little Ice Age for an example of a short period where the climate changed.

    /meteorologist at work


    Exactly, one day, one week, one month, even one year doesn't make a trend when you are talking about hundreds and thousands of years.
  • EricLA

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    Jan 18, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
    Perhaps you might want to do a little reading about the concept, Pattison. "Global Warming" is a misnomer, which is why it's more commonly referred to as "Climate Change" these days. Because while some areas of the world will warm and become more dry, others will become colder and more wet. Weather patterns will be disrupted. Feel free to read up.
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    Jan 18, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    TigerTim saidWhich bit of "Global" don't you get? It's about *average* not local behaviour.
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    Jan 18, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
    Yeah global warming doesn't mean it's going to just get warmer everywhere like summertime right now. As the temperature changes it's going to cause weather patterns to be altered all over the planet.
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    Jan 18, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
    EricLA said.... Feel free to read up.


    Ha

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    Jan 18, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    Pattison saidhere we are in the middle of summer, and in the last 24 hours my state has seen torrential rain, hail, and even snow, up in them hills, and it's the middle of summer, in a hot dry country.

    Forgive me if I struggle with this fails concept of global warming, it's nothing more than father nature at play.


    global warming isnt just about sunshine and hotter temperatures. Its about climate extremes. The undeniable fact is that humans are influencing the climate. Im sure we don't understand all of it entirely, but I think its fairly apparent that our climate is changing and it doesnt look like its for the better. And this is all just in our little home towns

    Try googling something about our ice caps and global warming. Theyre melting, much faster than they should be. This one fact alone should be enough to make you worry.

    Read the facts, dont just stick your hand out the window to feel rain (in a normally hot dry country I might add... gee sounds like a pretty extreme change)
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    Jan 18, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    Global warming produces climate instability but you can't extrapolate up from a single event or even a year's worth of weather.