Not a FAN of the NoH8 Photos?

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    Jan 22, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
    Every time I see a photo of someone with their mouth duct-taped over in these NOH8 adds, it comes off to me as "shut up and hide that you're gay." I wonder if I am the only one. Why not just NOH8 and no tape on mouth?

    It also makes the person look weak, like a prisoner, or a kidnap victim. I understand that it is supposed to symbolize the 'silencing of voices,' but I can only imagine that the Prop 8 supporters are thinking "Good, keep the duct tape on, we don't want to hear you speak."

    Protests are supposed to make the other party see the fault in their ways.
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    Jan 22, 2010 4:01 PM GMT
    Hey Vic:

    I think I agree with your stance on this. I have seen the ads in many places and the intended message never quite hit me right. That may just be me however. Maybe if two people were in the picture and one was removing the tape from the other, or something along those lines it would be more clear.
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    Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    thats funny because I thought the exact same thing when I started seeing them...I don't think they thought it through
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    Jan 22, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    I dunno about you guys but ive seen a lot of people with tape on their mouth.. some of them people i personally know and lemme tell you they look so good shut up. almost makes me wanna vote 'yes'. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 22, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
    My take on it was that the duct tape symbolized that people are trying to silence and oppress the gay community. The tape is there because people feel like they can't speak out and be themselves because of this discrimination.

    That's just what I thought.
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    Jan 22, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    My take is it's the least offensive way to make a point, so it's easier to recruit as many people as possible to participate. If it was more "in your face" than how likely would it be for someone like Cindy McCain to join?

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    Jan 22, 2010 5:43 PM GMT
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    Jan 22, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    I think it would be better for families of gay men and women to do photo shoots with t-shirts like:

    "My son is gay, and he deserves to marry the one he loves."

    OR

    "I came to your wedding, now let me have mine."

    etc.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
    The meaning behind the duct tape symbolizes that we as gay people have no voice, and demand to be heard. It by no means is trying to tell gay people to shut up. Hello, get with it ppl. The photographer is a friend of mine.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:06 PM GMT
    fresnostudboi saidThe meaning behind the duct tape symbolizes that we as gay people have no voice, and demand to be heard. It by no means is trying to tell gay people to shut up. Hello, get with it ppl. The photographer is a friend of mine.


    Hello, you don't have to type in red to make your point. Remember, it's not gay people who need to understand it, it's the homophobes.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
    It's like those ad's Aldo use to run for HIV/Aids "Speak no evil"

    I think the gay sophistication of the ads is totally missed by middle america. Cindy McCain might have helped draw attention to the ads though. Sooo well have to see.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    I think they're interesting, I always thought the message was about rebelling against the movement of trying to 'silence' gays by taking away their rights.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:18 PM GMT
    Beaux saidduct_tape.jpg


    brilliant.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:20 PM GMT
    I like them. I'd rather see those than the same old boring "Here is a gay couple, a straight couple, some families". Might catch more peoples eyes this way, if I saw one on the street I'd stop and take a second look. It might even make people think, if only for just a second...
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:21 PM GMT
    I happen to like the color.
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    Jan 22, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    cdnguy35 saidI like them. I'd rather see those than the same old boring "Here is a gay couple, a straight couple, some families". Might catch more peoples eyes this way, if I saw one on the street I'd stop and take a second look. It might even make people think, if only for just a second...


    I think it's better than showing a gay couple for this message because it's a way for all kinds of people to participate in it. Sometimes when I see ads showcasing gay couples I get a kind of zoo animal feeling, like 'These are tigers and lions, and in this next exhibit we have a gay couple.'! lol
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    Jan 22, 2010 8:33 PM GMT
    What moves middle america is other average Americans saying things like "I can't deny my daughter the right to marry the one she loves."

    Put that on a T-shirt. "My friend deserves the same right to marry too."

    The message is coming from str8 people who they can relate to.

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    Jan 22, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    x18xcollegeguy saidMy take on it was that the duct tape symbolized that people are trying to silence and oppress the gay community. The tape is there because people feel like they can't speak out and be themselves because of this discrimination.

    That's just what I thought.

    Christ I'm glad you wrote this, the campaign seems quite obvious.

    T-shirts? Seriously?
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    Jan 22, 2010 11:15 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidEvery time I see a photo of someone with their mouth duct-taped over in these NOH8 adds, it comes off to me as "shut up and hide that you're gay." I wonder if I am the only one. Why not just NOH8 and no tape on mouth?


    I am a fan. And your take on the photos is absolutely, 100% correct. Because society has told us to "shut up and hide that you're gay." The duct tape is symbolically representing that. The point of the photos is to say that that kind of hate is not OK, that we should not have to go through life silenced.
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    Jan 22, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    I'm not a fan of the campaign either. It just seems trendy and futile. A bunch pictures of gay people (and their supporters) is somehow going to change the world? Snooze. It just seems there are more productive methods to put time and energy into.
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    Jan 22, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
    I just want Cindy McCain's face to disappear from the homepage. I didn't think it was possible, but she looks even creepier.
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    Jan 23, 2010 12:41 AM GMT
    I'm sorry.....but I think the entire campaign sucks.

    There was a similar question / rant on facebook but the bottom line for me is ignorance. What does this campaign do to help dispel ignorance about who we are as a people and get those to understand that our sexuality is not "threatening"? The campaign obviously didn't work here in California and it most certainly didn't touch anyone from the affluent to those in black churches. The campaign didn't strive to educate, enlighten, or state WHY we were fighting for rights and privileges as others have done - Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Jr., Ghandi, etc.

    We're firemen, lawyers, teachers, clergy, church goers, regular people - and we're asking for what's ours. I think the lesson being learned by the gay community is the same lesson African Americans and other minority groups learned and had to accept back in the day (and still fight) - you can hate me all you want but I'm not going away and I will continue to fight for what's our right to have. Perhaps before you hate, let me show you how similar we are, what we have in common. I didn't see "American Heteros" filtering out gay monies in support for 9-11 or recently Haiti because it wasn't good enough or it was coming from "people we hate". It was pretty clear from the Prop 8 debacle that this campaign didn't work, so I have no idea why it was brought back.

    We need to find out what it is about us they hate. Is it something we can address? Or has the public been fed way too many stereotypes that they just don't know how to separate fact from fiction? I think we need to bring this fight closer to home - everyone knows someone gay - get to know them better and find out why and what they're fighting for. It would also help if the gay community had some serious, power hitting leaders This campaign is trendy yet vapid. I agree it's a powerful image but it could be used for anything from domestic or substance abuse to a new indie movie coming out.

    Like James Brown sang....it's "talkin' loud and sayin' nothin'.
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    Jan 23, 2010 12:48 AM GMT
    I'm not of fan of all the whining over gay marriage in a country where poverty is spiking, homelessness is rising, healthcare is becoming unattainable, and yesterday the Supreme Court let all hell break loose with corporate spending in political campaigns.

    Yesterday - the same day that the court ruled for corporations and against the American people, including our pathetic, fractured gay rights movement - I got an e-blast from GLAAD asking me to write a letter to Clear Channel (owned by a family of homophobes) because some right-wing tool called gay people bad names on the radio. icon_rolleyes.gif

    We don't have our rights because our movement is run by four rich guys, who want prenuptial agreements to make sure they twinky boyfriends don't get half their shit when they break up. Until gay people quit whining and actually focus on moving progressive policies forward instead of aping straight people, all the duct tape in the world won't change shit.

    And if anyone on here thinks the Roberts Court isn't going to use the current Prop 8 trial to blast gay rights back to the stone age, you're crazy. Yesterday's ruling proves how regressive and activist the Bush appointees are.
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    Jan 23, 2010 1:01 AM GMT
    Christian73 you can bring your handsome self right over here and sit next to me. AMEN!!!!
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    Jan 23, 2010 2:00 AM GMT
    YakkoSF saidChristian73 you can bring your handsome self right over here and sit next to me. AMEN!!!!