Have You Ever Found Gay Men To be Superficial...?

  • masculumpedes

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    Jan 23, 2010 3:37 AM GMT
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    Jan 23, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    This is a trick question, right? icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 4:01 AM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidThis is a trick question, right? icon_wink.gif

    LMAO!!!
  • masculumpedes

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    Jan 23, 2010 4:11 AM GMT
    I can see that my reputation precedes me....however...I meant for this to be my very first SERIOUS thread topic.50.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 4:14 AM GMT
    hahaha im sure this thread is rhetorical.

    but that would make all comments invalid

    LOL
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    Jan 23, 2010 4:37 AM GMT
    Not unless they are also Baptists icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 4:49 AM GMT
    I needed this tonight icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
    A gay man superficial? The hell you sayicon_biggrin.gif You can't get any more superficial than a queericon_eek.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    Superficial? Perhaps no more than any other people. We have had to develop a bit of a thicker hide to protect ourselves though, haven't we?
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    Jan 23, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    During my years involved in the gay community. The sydney gay community was looked upon as being frivolous and shallow, with no depth. From what I hear, this has not changed.
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    Jan 23, 2010 5:59 AM GMT
    To even ask this question simply undermines the very essence of the gay experience itself. I can't elaborate because I've scheduled a "Mystic Tan" and a Brazilian wax, then I have to take "Cher" to the dog groomer and swing by GNC to buy some penis enhancer.
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    Jan 23, 2010 6:00 AM GMT
    They say Im superficial
    Some call me a bitch
    They just mad cause
    Im sexy, famous and Im rich
    I rock the latest fashions
    And I set the latest trends
    PEOPLE say Im conceited
    Cause they really wanna be me

    So they say Im superficial

  • drypin

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    Jan 23, 2010 6:02 AM GMT
    I've never had more superficial conversation than I have at a few straight guy parties. And hour of chatting on sports results, an hour on work projects or job hunting progress, and hour on politics and not 5 minutes on how anyone felt about anything.
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    Jan 23, 2010 6:10 AM GMT
    I really don't think superficial is a deep enough word to even describe the majority of the gay population. In the words of some of my geeky gamer friends, the gay population is "Superficial +1."
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    Jan 23, 2010 8:01 AM GMT
    . . . well, there was that one time at a gay bar when I had to explain to a fellow patron who Oscar Wilde was . . .

    . . . but overall, gay guys aren't shallow; they are just pedestrian Joes living ersatz lives and thinking approved thoughts . . . same as the straight world . . . it's a meninlove fantasy come true -- conformity and dime store rectitude . . .
  • jrs1

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    Jan 23, 2010 8:07 AM GMT
    malefeet saidHave You Ever Found Gay Men To be Superficial...?


    only as superficial as I am toward them ...

    if you want to be kind, be kind. if you want to be rude, be rude. life is what you make of it:

  • rdberg1957

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    Jan 23, 2010 8:13 AM GMT
    I experience a lot of gay men as being quite afraid of one another. It has been as difficult for me to find quality gay friends as it has to find a life partner.
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    Jan 23, 2010 9:48 AM GMT
    Have I EVER found gay men to be superficial? Hell fuckin' yeah! The obsession with hair product, designer labels, pop divas, the relentless pursuit of sex...not that there's anything's wrong with that!icon_wink.gif

    But I've also seen gay men be incredibly deep and caring. Whether it's adopting children, taking care of an ailing parent, or a partner. I've taken to the streets in protests with thousands of other gay men, not just with Prop 8, but against Pete Wilson back in the 90's etc.

    We could do much better at getting involved in other issues that have nothing to do with us as gay men, but everything to do with us as compassionate human beings.

    We rule music, the arts, and fashion. Style and panache would be non-existent without us. But we also have a history of being caretakers, spiritual leaders, etc. Just look at all the gay men in houses of worship, healthcare, service industry.

    Like Black people in America, most gay men have absolutely no idea of our history before the 60's. Our stories are just coming to light in recent years.
    Blacks have only been considered citizens since 1964 in a country we'd been in for 400 years. Sodomy laws just got struck down a few years ago. LGBTs still don't have full protection and rights under federal law, so in a sense, we're still adolescent from a sociological perspective. Like teenagers, we've still got some growing up to do.

    That doesn't mean we can't cast a critical eye on ourselves, but we can also cut ourselves some slack.
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    Jan 23, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    Thanks for all the comments guys......you're the best! icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 23, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    So, this is really being limited to just the GAY community?...I mean has anyone ever looked at the female and male models used in mainstream advertising? Can you say "anorexia or bulemia"? or the national obsessions with what the stars and celebreties are wearing or doing or dating? SUPERFICIAL? DUH!icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 24, 2010 1:32 AM GMT
    yes
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    Jan 24, 2010 1:47 AM GMT
    lol, too much! noren said, " . . . but overall, gay guys aren't shallow; they are just pedestrian Joes living ersatz lives and thinking approved thoughts . . . same as the straight world . . . it's a meninlove fantasy come true -- conformity and dime store rectitude . . ."

    On the contrary, many gays (obviously you need to get out more) are involved in society and openly so, like never before. Before the great plague in the 80s, gay men were force to be reckoned with in the arts, fashion, the sciences (including health) etc etc etc.

    Noren our buddy list is full of very diverse people, including at least one woman to man sex change and most recently, a delightful person by the name of Starlite.

    Who's on yours, lol?

    Gay men are just as diverse as men in straight society, and we'll add that they are even more diverse in their open self-expression, which noren has confused with expressions of bigotry, racism, ascerbic nastiness etc. These last three, if they are how a person defines themselves, are pretty destructive definitions of self.

    Shallow? Well, consider that the greater the mind, often the more simple the activity that relaxes it. There are lots of shallow topics on RJ, but you know what? They've earned it. Look what gays in the US face. Look at the great plague and its persistence (AIDS). Is it any wonder many gays like the escape of light entertainment, as vacuous as it may appear to others?


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    Jan 24, 2010 1:48 AM GMT
    Gay men.
    Straight men.
    Fat men.
    Skinny men.
    Ugly men.
    Handsome men.

    Women.
    Lesbians.
    Fat women.
    Skinny women.
    Ugly women.
    Pretty women,

    We're ALL out there!
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    Jan 24, 2010 1:50 AM GMT


    ....and Freespirit09? The mark of a truly intelligent person is their ability to look at those they consider less intelligent than themselves and attempt to lift them up, not put them down.
  • Glorfindel

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    Jan 24, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
    hmmm.. gay men superficial?

    I think I lost count of the number of profiles I've seen out there that say "looking for friends" but then they describe who they want in friends and it's someone hot. So obviously they're looking for friends to make themselves look good and not looking for the substance of a real friendship.

    I've also seen posts/ads looking for boyfriends. This one just confounds me. They're not looking to date and build a relationship that could develop into a boyfriend. They're taking applications to fulfill the position "boyfriend." They want the immediate gratification of a "boyfriend" and not put any effort into the courting and wooing to build that relationship.

    I've also lost track of the number of times I've been messaged because of my profile picture with things "oh my god, you're HOT. We HAVE to hook up!" and then they ask for a face picture and run for the hills. Even told that to one guy who had messaged me because of my profile picture and we'd been chatting for a month or so. I told him about people running for the hills. He laughed and said that can't be true and asked to see a face pic. We exchanged pics (he wasn't all that, but I didn't say anything) and we continued chatting and he said "see, I haven't run for the hills." We chatted for another 10 minutes or so and then the chat died. He canceled on a dinner we had planned (something came up) and I never heard from him again.

    I'll leave the conclusion up to you. icon_confused.gif