Still working hard, but confused about diet and cardio

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    May 16, 2007 3:22 AM GMT
    Hey everyone. Still feel pretty new to this. I have been asked what I am looking to do, but I know what I am most interested in is losing my stomach and hopefully gaining some abs as well as some pecs. I currently am 5'8" 165lbs, and my trainer has been setting me on a diet with a lot of calories to help me gain muscle size, but my friends tell me I'm getting stocky. That's not what I want. I'm looking for leaner and toned and defined. Should I continue with this diet or should I maybe start working on thinning out my diet so I can skinny up a bit? Also, what does everyone suggest for cardio. I've noticed that runners my age have a body type that looks exactly what I want. Skinny and defined, so is this what I should start doing. Is running maybe the answer. Ack. Excercise confuses me.

    I still feel a little discouraged by this whole process after visiting Disney World and seeing the beautiful people at the pool. Keep at it, right? Wish I had a partner near me to help me with all this in Iowa.
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    May 16, 2007 3:27 AM GMT
    I think you explained your question, but, failed to answer it?

    What is that you want? Skinny? Muscular? Stocky? Scrawny? It's all for you to design.
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    May 16, 2007 3:28 AM GMT
    If you wanna' be a runner, be a runner.

    If you wanna' be a stud, be a stud.

    This isn't confusing. It's very simple, really.

    Eat more calories than you consume, you lose weight.

    Eat more calories than you consume, you lose weight.

    Lift weights, and not do cardio, you get muscular.

    Do cardio, and not lift weights, and you get thin.

    Do both, and you get ripped.
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    May 16, 2007 3:29 AM GMT
    Eat fewer calories than you consume, lose weight. Duh.

    I wish this thing had an edit feature.
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    May 16, 2007 3:30 AM GMT
    You don't need a partner. A partner will only hold you up. That's silly. You just need to apply yourself, do your research and personal experimentation, and repeat. You didn't get skinny overnight, and you won't be a hunk overnight. Common Sense 101 here.
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    May 16, 2007 3:33 AM GMT
    Good advice Chucky, but I think it should be worded more:

    Burn more calories than you consume = lose weight.

    Or the way I put it generally:

    More energy out than in = weight loss.
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    May 16, 2007 3:37 AM GMT
    My trainer used to have the same suggestions. It didn't work, I learnt a lot of exercises but thats it.


    Then I got along with a workout partner and his diet suggestions were very helpful.

    I want a lean physique and for that I have a high protein/low carb diet. Majority of carb intake is in the morning.
    Oatmeal in skimmed milk with one serving of Whey protein [24gm] and a banana, raisins, almonds. This in itself comes close to 600 calories.
    The meal after the workout is the richest in carbs and the largest meal of the day.

    After that, eat small portions every 2hrs till 6PM.

    Before sleep have a cup of Yogurt with I serving of Whey in it.

    In the first year of exercising, I dropped off from 168lbs to 130lbs and waist size went down from a 38 to 31. Body fat percentage also dropped from 23-15%.

    In the second year I am seeing gradual increases in lean mass and decreases in BF%


    I feel its a lifestyle adaptation and then the changes are gradual but sustainable.

    I have seen a few men who bulked very fast [and we wonder how at least for some] and if they get of the routine they loose it too...who wants that.

    I hope sharing my experience with you gives you an idea of what you need to do.
    Goodluck
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    May 16, 2007 3:45 AM GMT
    I'm looking for a lean physique and to be more toned. Is that the question you want answered. I apologize for sounding stupid, but I get confused about all this and all the info out there. I'll work on cutting down the calories so I can lose some weight right now. I think that makes sense. :)
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    May 16, 2007 3:48 AM GMT
    You don't necessarily need to cut down your calories, maybe you need to ramp up your cardio.

    As I said a post or so ago,

    More energy out than in = weight loss.

    If you're also wanting a strong, lean physique, you will still need to workout with weights and perhaps include swimming and running also.

    Hope this helps.
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    May 16, 2007 4:07 AM GMT
    I suggest you join calorie-count.com and imput all the foot you are eating so you can see how many calories you are consuming. It can also estimate your calorie expenditure. basically if your calorie expenditure is more than you consume you will loose weight. Cardio will help you get in shape but you should also lift weights, its a combination deal.
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    May 17, 2007 2:56 AM GMT
    You can't easily gain muscle while losing fat. If you want to have bigger muscles, you need to tolerate more fat. The best way to reach your goal is to work on gaining the desired amount of muscle, while not worrying about fat. Eating a lot will help. Once you have more muscle, your metabolism will increase slightly, and you can cut back on calories to lose weight, while going on a maintenance lifting and cardio plan.

    I try to gain 2 pounds of muscle for each pound of fat in the fall and winter, and then lose 2 pounds of fat for every pound of muscle in the spring and summer. If you do that for a while, you will gradually become lean and strong.