Lt. Governor of SC - Needy 'owe something back' for aid

  • metta

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    Jan 26, 2010 4:23 PM GMT

    Needy 'owe something back' for aid



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    Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer has compared giving people government assistance to "feeding stray animals."



    Bauer, who is running for the Republican nomination for governor, made his remarks during a town hall meeting in Fountain Inn that included state lawmakers and about 115 residents.

    "My grandmother was not a highly educated woman, but she told me as a small child to quit feeding stray animals. You know why? Because they breed. You're facilitating the problem if you give an animal or a person ample food supply. They will reproduce, especially ones that don't think too much further than that. And so what you've got to do is you've got to curtail that type of behavior. They don't know any better," Bauer said.



    In South Carolina, 58 percent of students participate in the free and reduced-price lunch program.

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    http://www.thestate.com/local/story/1123844.html
  • yogadudeSEATT...

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    Jan 26, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    O'kay Republicans, now's your chance to rebuke this neanderthal. We're all waiting.
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    Jan 26, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
    Sounds like The Deep South. Sounds like The GOP. Sounds like religious nuts. No new news, but, nonetheless, we should work against it.

    Ignorance abounds in Red States.
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    Jan 26, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
    What an asshole....
  • mustangd

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    Jan 26, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
    and he is a member of the party that is rallying for a comeback, now new and improved with more campaign money.
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    Jan 26, 2010 5:13 PM GMT
    mustangd saidand he is a member of the party that is rallying for a comeback, now new and improved with more campaign money.


    Mr. Bush helped his cronies with his Supreme Court nominations, didn't he?

    The latest message from the highest court in the land? Not just the health care bill, but, all of the federal legislative branch is for sale to the highest bidder.

    John McCain, a GOP person, was FUMING about what happened with campaign reform, and, rightly so.

    It's infuriating.

    I think that, at some point, the commoners are going to push back. Michael Moore's "Captiolism" may turn out to be very insightful.
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    Jan 26, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    What an idiot. What I find very telling and funny whenever one of the freaks and I mean from each party put their foot in their mouth.

    They suddenly mis spoke..huh? Didn't your mother ever tell you to "Think about what you say before you say it, because once it's out you can't take it back"! Mine did.

    He meant what he said nothing got lost in translation! He even quoted his own grandma for pity sakes!

    Eh!

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    Jan 26, 2010 5:19 PM GMT
    mustangd saidand he is a member of the party that is rallying for a comeback, now new and improved with more campaign money.

    And he will win, and the Republicans will win, because this is what they believe, this is what most Americans believe. A retarded & doomed society, an empire in its final death throes, though only historians in future centuries will see it, and objectively describe it.

    For now, we in the US must ride the Titanic down, a few of us surviving, most perishing. So do cultures collapse, though they hardly understand it themselves. Ignorance is what makes them implode, and we in the US have ignorance in abundance.
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    Jan 26, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    mustangd saidand he is a member of the party that is rallying for a comeback, now new and improved with more campaign money.

    And he will win, and the Republicans will win, because this is what they believe, this is what most Americans believe. A retarded & doomed society, an empire in its final death throes, though only historians in future centuries will see it, and objectively describe it.

    For now, we in the US must ride the Titanic down, a few of us surviving, most perishing. So do cultures collapse, though they hardly understand it themselves. Ignorance is what makes them implode, and we in the US have ignorance in abundance.


    hey thats my country ur dumping on. watch it dawg. or face the deadly full force of ignorance of team america

  • Anto

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
    He's wrong for the right reasons.
    For having such convictions I'm surprised he thinks that making people attend meetings or having drug tests will improve anything!
    Blind assistance doesn't always help people the way they need it.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
    cosmicjewboy saidO'kay Republicans, now's your chance to rebuke this neanderthal. We're all waiting.



    There is no rebuke for such an insensitive idiot. I'm sure the voters will let him know just how badly they do NOT need or want him in any position of power.
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    Jan 26, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
    Let me get this right, a republican says this kind of and he's the Antichrist? A liberal Democrat says much the same thing and enacts such legislation and he is the nations saviour?
    The New deal was about the same thing. Check out the history of Welfare reform. 1933 F.D.R. creates the Civilian Conservation Corps. 1933 F. D. R. creates the Civil Works Admin. 1935 F. D. R. proposses that direct welfare be replaced with a government public works program, congress passes the act to create The WPA. FERA is abolished and it recipents are transfered to government works programs.
    There's a difference between a hand up and a hand out!
    I guess the question I have is , is the outrage because he stole a liberal idea or is it because he's a Republican? Sure he could have articulated better what he ment, but how is it different than the policies of the "New Deal" ?
  • metta

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    Openly lesbian politician Linda Ketner outs Andre Bauer and Lindsey Graham


    http://www.dailypaul.com/node/98994



    South Carolina Lawmaker Denies Gay Rumors
    http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=4121&MediaType=1&Category=26

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:29 PM GMT
    I'm Green, so I think both Parties are on the wrong track, but this is so fitting for the Republican Party. I forget where I got this from, many apologies, but it seems fitting for how Republicans feel about "welfare":

    I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEAD

    "This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

    I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

    After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

    I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

    At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

    After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

    And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right."
  • Anto

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:31 PM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREInstead, he said, the government should place incentives in its welfare programs, such as providing child care so parents can work or receive education so they can break the welfare cycle.


    What's wrong with this?
  • Anto

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
    McCarry,
    What is that suppose to mean though? War is good?
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    Jan 26, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    Anto saidMcCarry,
    What is that suppose to mean though? War is good?


    I'm sorry, where do you read "war" in that post?
  • Anto

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    Jan 26, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    Oh it's not about war? Greed is good?
    I'm trying to make a point about the way that whole thing is written.
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    Jan 26, 2010 7:16 PM GMT
    I guess no one told Andre and Lindsey that the closet is a dangerous place to be when you are a public figure! Eh!
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    Jan 26, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
    McCarry saidI'm Green, so I think both Parties are on the wrong track, but this is so fitting for the Republican Party. I forget where I got this from, many apologies, but it seems fitting for how Republicans feel about "welfare":

    I AM AN AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE SHITHEAD

    "This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the U.S. Department of Energy.

    I then took a shower in the clean water provided by a municipal water utility.

    After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC-regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like, using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

    I watched this while eating my breakfast of U.S. Department of Agriculture-inspected food and taking the drugs which have been determined as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

    At the appropriate time, as regulated by the U.S. Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the U.S. Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration-approved automobile and set out to work on the roads build by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank.

    On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the U.S. Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.

    After spending another day not being maimed or killed at work thanks to the workplace regulations imposed by the Department of Labor and the Occupational Safety and Health administration, enjoying another two meals which again do not kill me because of the USDA, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to my house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and Fire Marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all its valuables thanks to the local police department.

    And then I log on to the internet — which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration — and post on Freerepublic.com and Fox News forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right."


    This would have been a good arguement, in theory. However when you learn a little about each commponent mentioned here you understand that it is not so great.
    From someone involved in the livestock industry, the FDA isn't protecting you from much, except maybe the fact that the food supply isn't as safe as you think. If you knew how many insect eggs were in the grain that went into your breakfast, you would eat something else, and I haven't even mentioned the steroids in the meat and eggs.
    As for clean water, that depends on where you live. Here in Utah it's clean and fresh, where my parents live in southwest Penna., it's recycled. Yeah, nice and clean ! And I didn't mention the contaminated water supplies in places like Love Canal, I guess I just did.
    And you really think the FDA is protecting you from much. Take a look at how many things they take off the market (viox is a big one) that wern't fully studied before they allowed them on the market. Not to mention how many drugs they allow on the market , so long as they tell you thet it may have more side affects and may be more deadly than the problem it's supposed to cure.
    I could go on about each and every one of the things mentioned , but they don't give me enough space here. For every thing you mention there are plenty of bad points about each of these government programs.

    I may be an American Conservative, but it seams to me I'm not the shithead!
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    Jan 26, 2010 8:11 PM GMT
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    McCarry saidI'm Green, so I think both Parties are on the wrong track, but this is so fitting for the Republican Party. I forget where I got this from, many apologies, but it seems fitting for how Republicans feel about "welfare":


    This would have been a good argument, in theory. However when you learn a little about each component mentioned here you understand that it is not so great.
    From someone involved in the livestock industry, the FDA isn't protecting you from much, except maybe the fact that the food supply isn't as safe as you think. If you knew how many insect eggs were in the grain that went into your breakfast, you would eat something else, and I haven't even mentioned the steroids in the meat and eggs.
    As for clean water, that depends on where you live. Here in Utah it's clean and fresh, where my parents live in southwest Penna., it's recycled. Yeah, nice and clean ! And I didn't mention the contaminated water supplies in places like Love Canal, I guess I just did.
    And you really think the FDA is protecting you from much. Take a look at how many things they take off the market (viox is a big one) that wern't fully studied before they allowed them on the market. Not to mention how many drugs they allow on the market , so long as they tell you thet it may have more side affects and may be more deadly than the problem it's supposed to cure.
    I could go on about each and every one of the things mentioned , but they don't give me enough space here. For every thing you mention there are plenty of bad points about each of these government programs.

    I may be an American Conservative, but it seams to me I'm not the shithead!



    Well, I'm 35 and I've made it this far by eating food that has the FDA stamp of approval, no matter how little that matters....and, if it hasn't killed me, it's only made me stronger. Food isn't sterile, nor is it meant to be. I completely enjoy the occasional hot dog from a NYC street vendor, and have no second thoughts about it. Trust me, I know what happens in restaurants, and if it gets through a restaurant kitchen without getting me sick, I'm okay with that.

    As far as hormones and steroids in meats, I'm well aware of that, which is why I limit my meat intake when it comes to US meats....they don't call it an "industry" for nothing; not to mention, I grew up in PA as well, and grew u p close to a Veal Farm, and I also worked on a dairy farm, so I know how meat is handled and produced. I've also seen my nieces "sprout" way earlier to womanhood, than what used to happen when I was growing up. So yes, I know for the most part, what's in my meat. For anyone to think that there isn't anything unnatural in their meats, they should take another look at their Biology and read about how long it takes a normal cow to grow and compare that to the age/weight at which American cattle grow before they are slaughtered. Capitalism at it's finest.

    Of course all our food and water supplies are contaminated, and for someone to think otherwise, they are acting on pure ignorance, especially when the United States is basically the United States of Corporate America. Nothing surprises me, because it's all about corporate money and the bottom dollar. When it comes to humans...what are they? Numbers.

    As far as medications go, take into consideration how many thousands, if not tens of thousands (or more) of medications are out there, or have been out there. The fact that a handful (or a little more) have been pulled off the market is reassuring to me that someone out there in the government sponsored FDA is doing their job....the fact that a few of these medications gets out and causes harm gets, tells me that 1) a Corporation pulled some strings and got it out before it was completely tested 2) there were definitely some unforseen reactions to the medications that they didn't, or couldn't, notice, or 3) shit happens. Medications are foreign substances that humans chose to take into their systems, of course there is going to be a chance for consequences, for someone to believe otherwise, it is complete ignorance. You take that chance on your own by ingesting a foreign substance into your body.

    Nothing is perfect in life, but for Republicans to be the ones that are constantly, constantly saying government is too involved (I love to hear Senators/Rep. taking about that when they get government healthcare and subsidies), they really need to step back and give themselves a reality slap; that goes for "welfare" too.

  • Anto

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    Jan 26, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    McCarry,
    The problem with the way that it is written though is that it's catering to the same mentality it's being critical about.