"Our" State of the Union

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    Jan 27, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
    Face it, at the end of the day, it's our "Politcal System" that needs immediate reform. Enough of the self-pontification and bullshit from both parties...

    The "State of the Union" is tonight, below is a good summary of what you should expect to "hear" as opposed to what the nation is actually experiencing, facing and how implementing a "band-aid" responsiveness of this and past administrations - both repulican and democrat will not resolve our true state of the union.

    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/01/26/the-true-state-of-the-union-a-politics-daily-sampler/?icid=main|main|dl5|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicsdaily.com%2F2010%2F01%2F26%2Fthe-true-state-of-the-union-a-politics-daily-sampler%2F

    I'm sure many will offer other arguments, but my main point is our current politic is unquestionably more focused on personal agendas than "national interests" and resolutions -- they just want to be the one going home with a trophy.

    looks like the link is not gonna load automatically... sorry for that icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 27, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
    I am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    Oh Please ..... you're comparing the free fall economy and jobless numbers we were getting for the last Bush term

    Like they are ANYTHING like they are now?

    We just barely everted a worldwide economic freeze not seen since the great depression
    and we all expect things to return to the boom days within a year?

    Not that Obama has chosen the right path in everything he's done
    not by a long shot
    But you have got to be kidding me when you compare ANYTHING about George Bush's presidency to his
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    Jan 27, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    GQjock saidOh Please ..... you're comparing the free fall economy and jobless numbers we were getting for the last Bush term

    Like they are ANYTHING like they are now?

    We just barely everted a worldwide economic freeze not seen since the great depression
    and we all expect things to return to the boom days within a year?

    Not that Obama has chosen the right path in everything he's done
    not by a long shot
    But you have got to be kidding me when you compare ANYTHING about George Bush's presidency to his


    Well except maybe for the revolving door between politics and industry...
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    Jan 27, 2010 8:43 PM GMT
    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif


    Matey, but please don't forget he is after all, only a politician! Only interested in being elected, than making and keeping world peace. Think of the blessings it could of been Bill and Chillery in the Whitehouse agin, and still American homosexuals have not recovered from what Bill did, with DADT and such.
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    Jan 27, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh boy
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
    midwest84 said
    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh boy


    Problem?icon_evil.gif
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    Jan 27, 2010 11:40 PM GMT
    Rodmramer said
    midwest84 said
    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif


    oh boy


    Problem?icon_evil.gif


    No. Recession.
  • Webster666

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    Jan 28, 2010 12:57 AM GMT
    People are always whining about our political system, when, realistically, IT ISN'T EVER GOING TO CHANGE.
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    Jan 28, 2010 1:41 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidPeople are always whining about our political system, when, realistically, IT ISN'T EVER GOING TO CHANGE.


    I can't agree more. I've been voting since 1984 and over the years I have heard so many times 'partisan bickering is worse than ever', 'we need a viable third party', 'the debt is too high', 'the deficit is too high', 'we need universal health care,' or 'there's too much money in political campaigns.' Young people and those with short memories seem to think these ideas are unique to this day. It's the same stuff people have been complaining about for decades. And in 2012, 2016, and beyond what ever Republican or Democrat is president and whatever of the two control congress (because it will only be a Republican or Democrat) people will still complain about the same things and little will have changed.
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    Jan 28, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    No capital gains taxes on small businesses. Serious financial reform.

    Let's list what he's setting out.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:00 AM GMT
    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif



    The whole thing seems so phony, because of Scott Brown's victory and what they see going on. They changed the speech up, so I wonder what it was going to be at first lol.

    Then I cringed when he blamed Bush again. I agree he walked into a mess, but damn how many times is he going to blame Bush? It makes him look so bad.

  • danisnotstr8

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    Jan 28, 2010 3:05 AM GMT
    The spiralling economy has nothing to do with Obama.

    7% unemployment during Bush to 10% this year? At least it's not 15% now (which would be the case if he were still here).

    Imagine you have a plane going down. It's falling quickly from the sky because the engine is broken, the electrical systems are faulty, and the fucking thing is out of gas because the tank was never filled before the plane took off.

    Everyone in the plane blames the pilot in the cockpit. It may not have been his fault alone, but they remove him from his seat. They put a new man in the cockpit, and the plane is still going down. But this one knows how to make a crash landing, so perhaps he'll do so without killing us all.

    It's not a perfect analogy.

    But seriously, to those who blame Obama for this, you are the problem. You are "here and now" people, and by mistrusting your President, who is trying to change the tone of the daily to-do's of our governmental bureaucracy to better the nation, all the while gloating about the dickmonger GWB who caused all this to happen, you are precluding yourselves from the chance for betterment-- individually and collectively.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:05 AM GMT
    he still blames Bush again on State of the Union. People who voted for him told him job priority. I am worried about my job in the future

  • Jan 28, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    I guess that the country has trade in the DEVIL for The DEEP BLUE SEA! I think that homosexuals need to think beyond what a politician does with gay rights... There are much more to life than being Gay.
    If Obama is NOT doing his job, let's rationally discuss the issues instead of automatically giving him a pass because he is a Democrat! I believe that us Gays are much smarter than that.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    Perfect.. the comments are perfect. icon_question.gif

    Maybe its me.. but before he is applauded OR roasted, shouldnt we let him finish? The game does not end till the 4th Quarter.

    Not for nothing, but ignorance is usually born out of the lack of information. Put your laptop down and listen. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:14 AM GMT
    Rodmramer saidhe still blames Bush again on State of the Union. People who voted for him told him job priority. I am worried about my job in the future


    Yep it was jobs, and everyone liked the sound of changing the typical ways of Washington, and neither has happened. I don't like seeing American presidents do bad, because it means the country as a whole will hurt.

    Its like he hasn't even been a president, more like still on campaign mode, its just weird.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:14 AM GMT
    majoranimalsloverz saidI guess that the country has trade in the DEVIL for The DEEP BLUE SEA! I think that homosexuals need to think beyond what a politician does with gay rights... There are much more to life than being Gay.
    If Obama is NOT doing his job, let's rationally discuss the issues instead of automatically giving him a pass because he is a Democrat! I believe that us Gays are much smarter than that.


    Thank you
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:16 AM GMT
    LuvMuscle99 saidPerfect.. the comments are perfect. icon_question.gif

    Maybe its me.. but before he is applauded OR roasted, shouldnt we let him finish? The game does not end till the 4th Quarter.

    Not for nothing, but ignorance is usually born out of the lack of information. Put your laptop down and listen. icon_rolleyes.gif


    I agree and I wish people felt that way for all politicians when they go to speak regardless of party.. Unfortunately people are pretty ticked off with Obama, and have lost faith in him which is sad. The other sad thing is.. Most feel they've heard all of this before. And that blaming Bush has got to stop.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:28 AM GMT
    What do you think about Obama saying that there's gonna be new laws for the armed forces, saying that: gay citizens who want to join will be able to NOT hiding who they are. I wish them good luck
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:34 AM GMT
    wajock1978 saidDidn't Odumbass say unemployment wouldn't go above 8.5%? Another broken promise. This speech was a total backtrack after the MA election the other day. He's a dumbass.


    Well I wouldn't go that far, he did say some promising things. I like the whole mention of the offshore drilling, that's something McCain and Palin were talking about during the campaign, and its something he should have gotten on. Hopefully he will, because it will create more jobs, and make us less dependent on foreign oil.

    I just hope he keeps his promises.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:42 AM GMT
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    Rodmramer saidI am not gonna watch and listen what he is gonna say. He lies about every promise he made during election campaign speeches. I remembered Bush left unemployment 7% not 10%icon_rolleyes.gif



    The whole thing seems so phony, because of Scott Brown's victory and what they see going on. They changed the speech up, so I wonder what it was going to be at first lol.

    Then I cringed when he blamed Bush again. I agree he walked into a mess, but damn how many times is he going to blame Bush? It makes him look so bad.



    That's ridiculous. He isn't "blaming" Bush, but right pointing out how much of this mess Obama inherited. If you watch Faux news, you would think that Obama went on a wild spending spree. It's called tell the truth.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    majoranimalsloverz saidI guess that the country has trade in the DEVIL for The DEEP BLUE SEA! I think that homosexuals need to think beyond what a politician does with gay rights... There are much more to life than being Gay.
    If Obama is NOT doing his job, let's rationally discuss the issues instead of automatically giving him a pass because he is a Democrat! I believe that us Gays are much smarter than that.


    Unlike Republicans, most Democrats are willing to hold our politicians feet to the fire. I, and many of the Dems or lefties, have expressed our dissatisfaction with Obama. Beyond that the liberal blogosphere has been ripping him as opposed to cheerleading all the lies and bad policies of Bush that Faux News reported breathlessly.
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    Jan 28, 2010 3:49 AM GMT

    Rodramer, it works very well in Canada. When straights join the armed forces they're asked, " Do you have issues with gay people?" If the answer is yes, they are told, "..then we have issues with you."


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    majoranimalsloverz said
    I guess that the country has trade in the DEVIL for The DEEP BLUE SEA! I think that homosexuals need to think beyond what a politician does with gay rights... There are much more to life than being Gay.
    If Obama is NOT doing his job, let's rationally discuss the issues instead of automatically giving him a pass because he is a Democrat! I believe that us Gays are much smarter than that.

    Christian73
    Unlike Republicans, most Democrats are willing to hold our politicians feet to the fire. I, and many of the Dems or lefties, have expressed our dissatisfaction with Obama. Beyond that the liberal blogosphere has been ripping him as opposed to cheerleading all the lies and bad policies of Bush that Faux News re
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    eathlessly.


    Christian73, I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, hence the comment of be honest with our assessments and try not to have our "political ideologies" blind our views of the reality.

    I am a Libertarian. One who believes in Fiscal conservatism and Social Liberalism.