TIM TEBOW: speak out or shut up?

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    Jan 27, 2010 6:05 PM GMT
    As many of you know, former Florida Gators QB, Tim Tebow, will be appearing in an ad with his mother concerning abortion which will air during the Super Bowl. The ad/commercial will briefly tell the story of how Tebow's mother was advised to abort him after she contracted a disease while doing aid work in the Phillipines. She obviously chose not to abort him and now based on this experience and their 'Christian' beliefs him and his mother feel that no one should ever abort a baby. The sponsers of the commercial are a group called "Focus on the Family" which is basically a far right-wing, conservative Christian group which has had its hand in various suspicious and sometimes outrageous activities.

    My question is do you think this type of ad should air during the Super Bowl? Also, should Tebow just keep his mouth shut when it comes to issues like this? I have no porblem with him speaking out actually, even though I am pro-choice. I just don't know that he should be aligning himself with radical Christian groups who put him in their "commercials."

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    Jan 27, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    NOPE!
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    It's a free country we live in LG. Don't have to agree with him, tho.....
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:08 PM GMT

    should it? the should, in this case, is not the point. it will.

    the real question is: as a gay community and having the religious hegemony oppress us ... should we react?
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    Should not air during the superbowl. This is no more tasteful than tampon commercials or viagra commercials and if they don't finish the commercial with "may cause headaches, diarrhea, vomitting, impaired vision, halitosis, hallucinations and religious angst, ask your doctor if abortion is right for you", then, they're doing a real disservice.
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    I applaud his activism. It shows he puts his beliefs ahead of money from potential endorsement opportunities.



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    Jan 27, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    Everywhere you go there is politiking going on. I'm sick of it. Can;t we just have one time when we can watch mindless entertainment without having people try to shove an agenda down our throats? No, it's inappropriate to have this there. It's not the right forum.
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:29 PM GMT
    He can align himself with whomever he chooses. As for the ad airing during the Super Bowl. CBS and the NFL get to choose what kind of message they want to portray through their advertisers. If you do not agree with Tebow, CBS, or the NFL, don't support them with your consumer dollars.
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
    trimmedlycan saidI applaud his activism. It shows he puts his beliefs ahead of money from potential endorsement opportunities.





    Can activism really be applauded if it aims to infringe on the rights of others?
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
    I can't help but wonder does the NFL know he's taking a stance on the abortion issue on their behalf if he appears in this commercial... ESPECIALLY if it's during the Super Bowl.
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:37 PM GMT
    jjltexas saidHe can align himself with whomever he chooses. As for the ad airing during the Super Bowl. CBS and the NFL get to choose what kind of message they want to portray through their advertisers. If you do not agree with Tebow, CBS, or the NFL, don't support them with your consumer dollars.


    Nobody's suggesting that he can't align himself with whomever he chooses and while your advice is pretty good, it's also good for people to speak out about this kind of horse shit.
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    Jan 27, 2010 7:43 PM GMT
    essentialife said
    Can activism really be applauded if it aims to infringe on the rights of others?


    Absolutely. Democracy needs a marketplace of ideas. Good, bad, or in the middle they should be heard and discussed. Let's remember, CBS and the creators of the ad are the only ones that have seen it. So how can we really condemn the message?

    Prior restraint is very dangerous. It is a free speech issue, and attempts to block it (legally or through social pressure) rub me the wrong way.

    Finally, the thread is about Tebow and the Super Bowl ad. I can already imagine nitpickers thinking of ways to discredit the marketplace of ideas concept and take me to task with crazy hypotheticals. That's non-responsive to the original poster's question and unnecessary to take up in this thread.

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    Jan 27, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    LEAVE TIM TEBOW ALONE! *sniffles*

    Your lucky he even performed for you bastards!
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
    On the one hand, it's a free country, and he can say what he wants.

    On the other hand, on a personal level, I do sorta wish he would just shut up. Not just on this, but on everything. As a Gator, I really get tired of him crediting Jesus Christ everytime they win a game. Like God favors UF and doesn't really like the other team.

    So go ahead. Live your perfect life in your perfect world where no one ever tells you 'no.' But just shut up.
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:24 PM GMT
    I would not mind it if the netowrk had not banned issue-oriented commercials in previous bowls. Prefer they retur to former policy this bowl and decide if they want to open it up to all next time.
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    so u got no prob with him speaking out but u think he should keep his mouth shut when it comes to issues like this that he aligns himself with people you dont like?
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:35 PM GMT
    joshnyc saidso u got no prob with him speaking out but u think he should keep his mouth shut when it comes to issues like this that he aligns himself with people you dont like?


    I have no problem with someone voicing their opinions and beliefs as long as they can back them up with reason and intelligence. The group paying for the ad is certainly not supported by either reason or intelligence. It's not that I simply disagree with them, it's that they cannot put forth a logical argument to support what they preach.
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:39 PM GMT
    so stupid people shouldnt speak their opinion? should britney spears and paris hiltlon shut up?....dont answer that lolz
    even retarded people have a right to speak u know...
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    Jan 27, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
    joshnyc saidso stupid people shouldnt speak their opinion? should britney spears and paris hiltlon shut up?....dont answer that lolz
    even retarded people have a right to speak u know...


    People do have a right to speak, but that's not absolute. For example, there is no right to speak when a private group is privately funding a Super Bowl ad which will be sent to a private TV network for airing. Just saying.
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
    lawguy920 said
    joshnyc saidso stupid people shouldnt speak their opinion? should britney spears and paris hiltlon shut up?....dont answer that lolz
    even retarded people have a right to speak u know...


    People do have a right to speak, but that's not absolute. For example, there is no right to speak when a private group is privately funding a Super Bowl ad which will be sent to a private TV network for airing. Just saying.


    wait r u saying people dont have right to speak by pay privately for an ad will be sent to private tv network for airing?
    if theres no right to speak for that then why do they let them pay?
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
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    That's one hot picture though! He should just shut up and assume the position... icon_twisted.gif
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    trimmedlycan said
    essentialife said
    Can activism really be applauded if it aims to infringe on the rights of others?


    Absolutely. Democracy needs a marketplace of ideas. Good, bad, or in the middle they should be heard and discussed. Let's remember, CBS and the creators of the ad are the only ones that have seen it. So how can we really condemn the message?

    Prior restraint is very dangerous. It is a free speech issue, and attempts to block it (legally or through social pressure) rub me the wrong way.

    Finally, the thread is about Tebow and the Super Bowl ad. I can already imagine nitpickers thinking of ways to discredit the marketplace of ideas concept and take me to task with crazy hypotheticals. That's non-responsive to the original poster's question and unnecessary to take up in this thread.


    I am not speaking of his right to free speech, which is a given. I was talking about your applauding him for his apparent activism - meaning, I don't know if you personally applaud his stance, or if you just objectively support his right to express it.
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
    I applaud him for putting his beliefs ahead of his bank account.
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    jjltexas saidHe can align himself with whomever he chooses. As for the ad airing during the Super Bowl. CBS and the NFL get to choose what kind of message they want to portray through their advertisers. If you do not agree with Tebow, CBS, or the NFL, don't support them with your consumer dollars.


    Totally agree.
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    Jan 27, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    trimmedlycan saidI applaud him for putting his beliefs ahead of his bank account.


    Totally agree.