How do you keep from getting discouraged?

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    Jan 12, 2008 6:46 PM GMT
    This week I worked out like a maniac and only lost .8 pounds! I know any weight loss is a good thing but I was still a little frustrated.

    To those of you who have lost or are trying to lost weight, how do you keep from getting discouraged?
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    Jan 12, 2008 7:34 PM GMT
    I am finding that by just eating healthy and exercising that I am losing weight very nicely...about a pound a week.

    This morning I got up and found out that I fit very nicely back in my old jeans (I had to buy a larger size during my therapy cuz of the weight gain).

    Plus I dont diet...I eat plenty. Sometimes, for dinner, too much of my green salad (romaine, broccoli, spinach, red cabbage + a protein: tuna, salmon, chicken, grated cheese (raw milk sharp cheddar), and Annie's Naturals Cowgirl Ranch Dressing.

    And homemade chocolate pudding. ...Yum

    Morning is orange-pineapple juice that I make myself and a cup of coffee with sugar

    Lunch: 3 boiled eggs or organic hot dogs

    No grains...my personal trainer said to avoid them
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    Jan 12, 2008 7:56 PM GMT
    I'm with Caslon, watching what you eat and exercise is all you can do. 8 pounds for the week is not bad at all. Any movement down should be an encouragement. Rome was not built in a day and you did not gain any weight in that short of a period of time. Patience must be your ally and determination your motivating factor.

    Don't be so hard on yourself.. you should be extremely happy with your progress...not discouraged!

    Keep up the good work, fight the good fight. My new motto is: More In....More On.

    Good luck.
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    Jan 12, 2008 8:03 PM GMT
    I spent the last year (Jan. 15 is my anniversary of beginning a weight-loss regimen) learning to deal with weeks where sometimes NO weight came off. However, as long as I was adhering to my plan of sensible eating and exercise, there were still changes happening to my body, with shifts in mass, etc. This is a good reason to track measurements. I also found it helpful to look at a pound of something whenever I lost that amount and didn't think it was a lot. For example, if you look at a pound of butter and consider that's something you're not carrying around anymore, that can be encouraging (just don't eat the butter!).
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    Jan 12, 2008 8:07 PM GMT
    Uh.... there's a decimal place there. I'm sure it's 0.8 pounds.

    At least it's a step in the right direction. That's what counts.
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    Jan 12, 2008 8:25 PM GMT
    As I've stated previously, some weeks you might lose two, and others you might gain 2. Such is the way of life.

    As I also said before, you need to look at the long-haul, big-picture, and adjust yourself to proper thinking. Remember, you didn't end up fat and out of shape in a week (it took years for you to get so bad off), and remedy is going to take a while, as well.

    As some point, you need to develop the mental outlook of a winner, and set realistic goals, achieve them, and move to your next goal. Wallowing that you are an ongoing failure will only be a self-fulfilling prohecy. Stop that shit, and start thinking like an athlete, and a winner. Any good winning coach would say for you to forget your loss, and train harder for the next meeting. In your case, with scale. Understand, it'll take some time for you to regain your health. You've been sick for a LONG time.

    If you didn't hit your goal this week, then work harder, adjust your diet, train differently until you DO achieve your goal. I.e., try harder / train smart / don't sweat one week, but look a the big picture.

    Remember: instant gratification is why you're in the mess you are now. You have to adjust to a more proper line of thinking of things in weeks, and months, and even years.

    As I said, I diet about 23 weeks out of the years, but, I seldom bitch. At 18 weeks out, I lock and load and away I go. As some point, you need to change your thinking to that of a winner, instead of a loser.

    Quitting, whining, and coming up with excuses is for loers. You need to adjust your behavior to a winning mentality unless you enjoy being miserable, which it often seems like you do.

    Now, get outside and get walking and get back on goal.
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    Jan 12, 2008 9:00 PM GMT
    eb925guy said it all.icon_biggrin.gif

    Good Job!

    Eat right but limit your intake, never deprive your body of nutrient and exercise, exercise thats all really. Keep doing what your doing. icon_biggrin.gif

    One more thing, don't over exert yourself and be safe.
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    Jan 12, 2008 9:07 PM GMT
    Chucky is right on this-- you have to think long term. I wouldn't be discouraged by a 0.8 change. I like to do math in my head to keep motivated:

    0.8 * 52 = 41.6

    41.6 * 5 = 208

    Keep doing what you are doing, and in the long term, a LOT of change is possible. Even if you gain some weeks, averaging 0.8 would get you results. You have to think in terms of how long it took to get where are are now-- a long time.

    I keep motivated this way-- if you keep doing exactly what you are doing, there is almost a 100% chance that you will meet your goals. And every week as you get closer, you will benefit more, and the more fit you are, the easier it will be to work out.
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    Jan 12, 2008 9:51 PM GMT
    Chasersprize saidThis week I worked out like a maniac and only lost .8 pounds! I know any weight loss is a good thing but I was still a little frustrated.

    To those of you who have lost or are trying to lost weight, how do you keep from getting discouraged?


    A hair under a pound is still weight loss, but what's more important is that you're making progress and it's working. Keep in mind that if you lost 3 pounds of fat and gained 2.2 pounds of muscle, your 0.8 weight loss is still a very good thing.

    I keep a food diary now, to make sure I'm staying on track with what I want to be eating, as well as an exercise journal to keep myself honest. Some weeks are better than others, and the "less great" weeks inspire me to push harder and figure out what emotional/mental thing caused the slump.

    In all honesty, I keep seeing the really fit guys on this site and reading the forums, and I always find something to inspire me to keep doing what I'm doing. I do it for me and for my health, but seeing hot guys is always inspirational... not because I have any illusions about bedding any of them, but because I have hopes of looking almost as good as some of them before the end of the year. icon_smile.gif

    Being healthier and happier will be its own reward, in the long run. But I'd like to be able to mow the front lawn shirtless without causing revulsion in the neighbors (which is why I haven't ever done it before).
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    Jan 12, 2008 10:26 PM GMT
    I get bored with hearing myself saying this but its about investment versus return. I would go for efficieny of what Im doing and eating less any day as its more sustainable in th elong turn.

    But why are you looking at the scales right now? It aint gonna dissapear overnight or at 12:52 am and 12 seconds it just dont work like that. As others have said some weeks your loss will be minimal others far greater. At the end of teh day though you damn well know your clothes will feel better each week so let them be the guide and kep the faith.

    So what did you do last week Chaser and what did you eat?
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    Jan 13, 2008 2:27 AM GMT
    I have to add that as a coach / team captain, and given Chaser's long history of being so "needy", negative, and having low morale, if he was on a team of mine, I'd tell him to shape up, or I'd throw him off.

    His self-centered whining brings winners down.

    I drop 0.8 pounds every time I go number 1. I drop anywhere from 1.5 to 3 pounds every time I go #2. Had Chaser engaged in any level of critical thinking, he would he realized that, too. He loves the pity; relishes in it.
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    Jan 13, 2008 2:40 AM GMT
    I'd say I keep from being discouraged by finding better metrics on which to judge my progress. Stop getting on the scale if it's not helping you. Your goal shouldn't be to hit a particular number on the scale, it should be to be healthy. The two are correlated, sure, to some extent, but that doesn't mean you need to fixate on the scale if it's not motivating you.

    Focus on constructing healthy meals. Make a little game of it. Pull up calorie-count.com or fitday.com and start putting together meals of stuff you like eating in ways that are nutritionally balanced. See how many you can make. Derive pleasure from that. Like, the other day I got tired of eating almond butter & banana sandwiches on whole-grain bread, so I roasted a chicken, sliced up the meat, made a tomato sauce with just about every vegetable known to man in it, and when I get hungry, I have a sandwich of toasted whole wheat bread with the chicken, topped with maybe an ounce of cheese (whatever I have around, right now that's mozzarella and gruyere) and then the tomato sauce.

    It's full of nutrients, protein, fiber, and low in fat, and is super filling and exactly what I was craving. That brings me more pleasure and continued motivation than even if I stepped on a scale and saw I'd lost 5 pounds. Or put on 5 pounds of muscle. Those are just numbers.

    You have to find ways to cultivate at all times that willing, eager state of mind that encompasses motivation, enthusiasm, hope, and compassion.

    I heard a good quote today, from a Buddhist nun I like a lot: "Foresight wisdom brings foresight courage." That's to say, after doing this for long enough, you should start to notice foresight wisdom entering into it. You'll be in a situation and realize you've been there many times before, being tempted or feeling lethargic and needing motivation. And that realization, and the knowledge that giving into temptation or lethargy or not working on the motivation in the past has always brought you what you did not want, that brings the foresight courage, and it's motivation on its own.

    In some sense that's a long-winded way of saying that over time, practice should make habits and they should be self-sustaining and your desperate reliance on external rewards should start to abate a bit. But it is something you have to work at. If you don't stop and reflect on those times when you gave into weakness or took the easy way, and really internalize that those behaviors didn't bring you what you want, did not bring you happiness, then every single time it'll be an uphill battle.

    Treat cultivating motivation as a challenge, a problem to be solved. Pursue different strategies with curiosity and determination and an open mind. See what works. Discard the rest. There's a lot more to do out there than stand on scales.
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    Jan 13, 2008 5:06 PM GMT
    Ok...so obviously I can't read! Sorry, missed that decimal point....thought, damn, I wish I could lose 8 pounds a week, I'd be done in NO time!! LOL....but my comments stand whether it's .8 or 8... and I like the idea of doing the math....over time...it's good. And I like Chucky's attitude of thinking positive and using the negative weeks to inspire you to try harder to prove you can do it!!

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    Jan 13, 2008 5:15 PM GMT
    Damn, Chucky. Funny, but TMI....
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    Jan 13, 2008 6:45 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidI have to add that as a coach / team captain, and given Chaser's long history of being so "needy", negative, and having low morale, if he was on a team of mine, I'd tell him to shape up, or I'd throw him off.

    His self-centered whining brings winners down.

    I drop 0.8 pounds every time I go number 1. I drop anywhere from 1.5 to 3 pounds every time I go #2. Had Chaser engaged in any level of critical thinking, he would he realized that, too. He loves the pity; relishes in it.


    This was a thread for people to share how they stay motivatyed. It was not a thread for you to bash me in an attempt to deal with your own insecurities, you ugly little monkey.
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    Jan 13, 2008 7:04 PM GMT
    Nobody is bashing you. If I were to bash you, I'd say you were a whining, self-indulgent, lazy, slob, and I did nothing of the sort. I pointed out that you are self-defeating in your lack of innovative effort and that your ongoing whining is not the mental attitude that a winner has, nor wants to be around. If that hit a soft spot with you, GOOD. Something needs to get you off the couch, and into motion.

    Get off your pity pot, and get into some proper thinking.

    When I go to make weight, at 4:00 p.m., the night before a show, I know that if I go number 1, I'll drop 0.8 pounds every time I do. I drop about 1.5 pounds to 3 pounds every time I go number 2.

    Sometimes, in the mornings, I'll be ten pounds LESS than any the evenings.

    My point is that all you every time is whine, and had you gone poddy a couple of times, you could have said you lost 1.6 pounds. In the big picture 0.8 pounds is a healthy piss...and it's all that is, and you were whining about it. Stop it with all your negative, self-defeating, attitude, and get the show on the road.

    You relish in the attention and in the whining, and what you should have done was this: If I'm slighty above where I'd like to be, last thing, before bed, I put on my cell phone and walk the shoreline of the lake (I've done this at 4:00 a.m. in the morning many times), and I'll jam on my tunes or watch VCAST as I burn out an extra 45 minutes. If it's a tough day, I'll walk the face of the dam (Lewisville Lake) so that it's like walking stairs, only outside. (My trainers hate that because they worry about me getting hurt outside.)

    What you should have done instead of whining was the following:

    "Only dropped 0.8 on the scale, but, I know that's just one good piss, but, nonetheless, I decided I'd turn it up a notch and I added a 30 minute walk before bed. I'm sure hoping. Let me keep you all here up to date."

    Unless you change your mindset, Chaser, you'll continue to fail. Stop it. Do what I said in the paragraph above.

    My reality checks aren't meant to pick on you, but, rather, they are designed to get you to engage in proper thinking, instead of the shit poor attitude you have now. No wonder you're such a mess.

    My reality checks hit a soft spot, I know, but, you have to accept that and instead of transforming your failure and directing it at me, you need to say, "Chuck, you're right, it's just 0.8 pound. Let me step it up. I know you're right, and I'm stepping up, TODAY! I'm sick as hell of being fat, and I'm going to work hard, and smarter!" That's the mentality of a winner. Humans are capable of SO much.

    You need to start thinking like a winner, instead of a whining cry baby.

    Now, get one front in front of the other, and start walking.

    I have big shoulders, and I'm very secure. Lash out at me as much as you'd like. I can take it, and, in the end, if you're the better off, we've succeeded in our goal of taking you back to being a regular person.

    If you think I'm ugly, that's fine. You're not the sort I'd like to date. I can handle a few insults from you in the process of saving your life. NOW, get with the program!

    I take comfort in my 9.9 rating. Understand, though, if you just get your head in the right place, you can go there, too.

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    Jan 13, 2008 8:51 PM GMT
    Chaser this isnt about winning or no psycho babble bullshit this is about finding what makes yuo click and what will make you stay motivated and stick to it. Yes I must admit we dont seem to be making any ground here as in numerous threads when we ask you to deliver the goods and say what are you actually doing and what are you actualy eating you leave the thread and start another one so I can see why Chucky gets exasperated but if he were my PT using that stance he would have lost his teeth by now!

    Its ok asking others what their motivation is and we have all given you the benefit of our experience and not always wisdom. The only way you are going to stay motivated is by finding that motivation with in. So tell us what makes you tick? What sacrifices are you prepared to make along teh way? What way do you prefer to train?
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:09 PM GMT
    Well, I'd never lose my teeth cuz you think like a winner.

    Lucky me.

    I had a dental hygienist knockout girlfriend for 3.5 years. This horse has badass teeth, too!
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:15 PM GMT
    Oh My God, as The Good Fairy of The West once said, if I whined like chaser does on my three a day workouts, I'd never get on stage.

    Time to start being a man, Chaser. Take the bull by the horns, quit whining, and just get it done. If you need to lash out of me in the process, that's fine. In fact, if getting angry at me provides motivation for you to get in motion, I think that's awesome. Quit being such a whining cry baby, and put one foot in front of the other and get it done. Stop it with your bullshit self pity.

    Here's some reasons to motivate you (pick one to many, or none):
    1. So you'll feel good.
    2. So you'll look good.
    3. So you'll be sick less.
    4. So you can buy regular clothes.
    5. So you can fit in an economy car.
    6. So you can prove to yourself that some things you can do on your own, and that you did this for yourself.
    7. So regular people don't have you to laugh at anymore.
    8. So you can eat and not remain looking like shit.
    9. So you can prove you have control in your life.
    10. So you don't have to transform your failures onto others that are honest with you.

    I've already stated in another thread my motivations, here are a few(pick 0 to many):
    1. People beg to have sex with me.
    2. It feels good.
    3. It keeps me healthy.
    4. It keeps me young.
    5. I like my 9.9 rating.
    6. I can perform in the top 2% nationally for fitness.
    7. I love being built.
    8. I love walking on stage.
    9. I like being able to perform physical work.
    10. Having a big chest gives me something to touch when I jerk off in the morning.
    11. I like having a bigger pee pee.
    12. I like my blood profile.
    13. I like to eat.
    14. It gives me an excuse to shave top to bottom and not look like a starving twink.
    15. People love to touch me.
    16. I like trophies.
    17. I like being different from lazy, out-of-shape folks.
    18. I like taking my shirt off at the beach, tanning, place, and so on.
    19. It's fun being strong.
    20. I think it's neat as heck when I have my legs on some guy's shoulders, and dripping in sweat, he says..."Oh, fuck, Chuck...you're so FUCKING hot!"

    Now, get moving. You big baby.
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:26 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidWell, I'd never lose my teeth cuz you think like a winner.

    Lucky me.

    I had a dental hygienist knockout girlfriend for 3.5 years. This horse has badass teeth, too!


    Dont get me wrong I aint giving him reasons or excuses not to perform he is doing that enough for himself and everyone else on here! But he needs to get results and quick and he sure as heck aint going about it right through what he is doing, as unlike what others have said that level of weightloss at his weight is franticaly shite, so he is either kidding himself about what he is easting or kidding himself about his training.

    Either way its only yourself you are letting down, but I have been their too Chaser and have also sent you suggestions, which I will gladly do again but never got a response last time.

    So what will it be eat more and train more often or eat less and get the same results in 3 sessions a week no running or any traditional CV


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    Jan 13, 2008 9:29 PM GMT
    chuckystud said

    1. People beg to have sex with me.


    And I have just thrown up now ................ icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif takes all sorts I suppose its good to see Chuckles is doing his bit for the blind community tho ha ha ha ha
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:33 PM GMT
    Just checking to see if you could read. LOL. They beg, but, it's not usually the ones I want. LMAO.
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:36 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidJust checking to see if you could read. LOL. They beg, but, it's not usually the ones I want. LMAO.


    never fucking is

    Not that I had a problem with th offers of sex before I lost the weight, but afterwards Im now beating them off with a bloody stick half the time!

    Here's your motivation Chaser getting fit and toned and then whacking the muscle on like nobodys business and outshining Chuckles stealing his title from him and ramming the trophy up his arse live on stage with no lube icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:49 PM GMT
    LOL. I made a video for chaser.

    It's encoding up on youtube now. Bless his heart.
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    Jan 13, 2008 9:56 PM GMT
    I was actually going to applaud Chaser for his more positive posts of late. I'd like to encourage that of everyone.