• HndsmKansan

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    Jan 30, 2010 6:33 PM GMT
    It took the jury 30 minutes to reach the verdict of first degree murder of abortion provider Dr. George Tiller last May.

    The right wing crazed loon, Roeder, showed no remorse and said he would do it again when he testified.

    From KSN (NBC affilate site in ICT)

    WICHITA, Kansas – A jury quickly convicted Scott Roeder on every count he faced Friday morning in the murder of Dr. George Tiller. And with that, he could be sentenced to as many as 50 years behind bars.

    Roeder didn’t even flinch as a jury of his peers told him he’ll likely die behind bars for the premeditated first-degree murder of Tiller.

    His defense had hoped for a conviction on the lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter, but the judge ruled he wouldn’t allow the jury to consider those charges and that decision left his defense team in their words “helpless and hopeless.”

    “We knew we were in trouble,” said Mark Rudy, public defender. “Our whole case from the very beginning frankly was based on efforts to get that jury instruction.”

    Roeder admitted everything on the stand from a religious conversion while watching an episode of “The 700 Club” to his growing frustrations with the law’s lack of success in shutting down Tiller’s clinic and then finally to his decision to take the law into his own hands by hunting down the doctor in his church and shooting him to death in the lobby.

    District Attorney Nola Foulston fought to keep Tiller and abortion itself from being put on trial and in court called Roeder’s attempts to prove he was acting in the defense of others “outrageous.”

    “This was not a push button case,” Foulston said after the guilty verdict. “We really worked to ensure these legal precedents were presented to the court.”

    Tiller’s widow and family attended every single day of the trial. They never made any sort of outbursts, but often looked pained by testimony. The family refused to meet with reporters after the verdict, but did release a statement saying, “At this time we hope that George can be remembered for his legacy of service to women, the help he provided for those who needed it and the love and happiness he provided us as a husband, father and grandfather.”

    Roeder faces sentencing on March 9th where Foulston says she’ll seek the “Hard 50” for Roeder, which means he wouldn’t be eligible for parole until he’s 101 years old.

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    Jan 30, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    I just don't see how anyone who supports life can justify murder.
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    Jan 30, 2010 8:10 PM GMT
    This is a good verdict. The Supreme Court might want to look into it.
  • GQjock

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    Jan 31, 2010 11:25 AM GMT
    What this needs to be

    Is an Indictment of the entire Anti-abortion crusade
    Which had a hand in this and the Paul Hill case
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    Jan 31, 2010 1:24 PM GMT
    MaxFitMike saidI just don't see how anyone who supports life can justify murder.

    Well if you murder every doctor that provides abortions then all babies will be born. It's twisted logic.
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    Jan 31, 2010 2:04 PM GMT
    No I get the twisted logic. My parents are prolife and go to Right to Life meetings and such. They are also pro death penalty. I tell them they can't be both because killing is killing. Dad disagrees because abortion is killing innocent life. I tell them that according to their religion (life begins at conception) there is no innocent life because of original sin (again according to their religion). Thankfully they are not the radicals who bomb clinics and such, they just pray. I guess my point earlier was that this guy committed murder to stop this doctor from doing a medical procedure. Using that logic why doesn't he just kill the women? That way they can't have an abortion in the first place.
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    Jan 31, 2010 3:53 PM GMT

    Let's just hope the sentence is a severe one. It can certainly be justified:

    1) Roeder is a threat to the public. Nothing in his demeanor or testimony leads me to believe he would not killer other abortion providers if given the chance.

    2) His crime was intended not only to kill Dr Tiller, but to terrify providers of lawful abortions. He did tremendous harm both by taking Dr Tiller's life and depriving Dr Tiller's family, friends, patients and colleagues his presence and by causing fear among many thousands of people providing legal medical services.

    3) There is widespread public revulsion of Roeder's actions.

    4) A harsh sentence may act as a deterrent to other's who may believe murder is justified in their opposition to women's reproductive rights. (Unfortunately, I have to admit that whatever sentence Roeder receives may actually fuel the zeal of others like him.)

    5) Maybe, just maybe, a long enough sentence will cause Roeder to reflect enough on what he did so that he may someday see how wrong he has been. Frankly, though, I doubt there's much chance of that happening, which gives all the more reason to make sure Roeder is not eligible for parole until well past his expected demise.

    My understanding is that Roeder faces a minimum sentence of life with the possibility of parole after 25 years. But, he could be sentenced to be ineligible for parole for 50 years on the murder conviction. And hopefully there can be further delays in possible parole by adding on time for the two counts of aggravated assault of which Roeder was convicted.
  • cityguy39

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    Jan 31, 2010 4:09 PM GMT
    In my opinion there was no other verdict to even consider. Let's hope this sends a strong message to all the other fanatics out there.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 01, 2010 4:12 AM GMT
    ...and the stupid fool ranted on and on about how he thought that abortion was murder, yet he chose to murder.
    Obviously, the jury found it extremely easy to convict him.