Avatar- Racism or not?


  • Jan 31, 2010 11:13 PM GMT
    AVATAR, the movie. I just saw the movie and have mixed emotion (are there racism subtexts in the movie?) regarding the theme of the movie. I would live to hear your thoughts if you have seen it.
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    Jan 31, 2010 11:14 PM GMT
    No.



    .....Next?
  • azureskyy20

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    Feb 01, 2010 1:30 AM GMT
    What would be racist O_O
  • DrobUA

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    Feb 01, 2010 1:52 AM GMT
    No and its retarded that so many ppl are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing. It's proof that if you want to be offended, you will be.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Feb 01, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    I have no idea what you're talking about. What racism?
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    Feb 01, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    Its is so racist against the church (replaced with nature, boy that is so bad), but otherwise no not at all. icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 01, 2010 1:59 AM GMT
    YO I HEARD DER WAS BLUE PEOPLE IN DIS MOVIE.
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
    No.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Feb 01, 2010 2:02 AM GMT
    asnextdoor saidIts is so racist against the church (replaced with nature, boy that is so bad), but otherwise no not at all. icon_smile.gif


    There is no such thing as racism against a church.
    And WTF are you talking about anyway?
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:06 AM GMT
    danisnotstr8 said
    asnextdoor saidIts is so racist against the church (replaced with nature, boy that is so bad), but otherwise no not at all. icon_smile.gif


    There is no such thing as racism against a church.
    And WTF are you talking about anyway?


    I know, it was supposed to be as baseless (with a pinch of Sarcasm) as the church's stance against the movie and people saying the movie is racist.
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    Apparently, there are no Asian's in James Cameron's vision of the future. icon_rolleyes.gif

    But I think the OP was hinting at the "white knight" theme of the movie. Nothing new here. We've seen it before in The Last Samurai, Dances With Wolves, and miscellaneous movies and TV shows where a white character comes in to the save the day.

    However, I do agree that people are putting way too much though into this. When I heard people were getting "depressed" after watching Avatar, I thought it was asinine. And other people were touched by the environmental/conservation theme (if there really was one). Gimme a break. It's just a movie. It's supposed to entertain. James Cameron isn't a champion of social issues. He's a movie maker. And a very good one. That is all.
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    There's no such thing as a stupid question, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots.
  • danisnotstr8

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    Feb 01, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    The dude was in a wheelchair. So we at least got one minority covered, right?

    Should we assume that he should be mentally challenged as well-- in order to claim that there's no prejudice against those with a low IQ?

    Or perhaps the film is anti-blind. If the guy can see, then clearly, we haven't been very sensitive to the Helen Kellers of the world.
  • bmw0

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    Feb 01, 2010 2:21 AM GMT
    Racism, Trannies...what's next?
    Is it so hard to let a movie be a movie without getting all ridiculous about the plot line? Next i'll be hearing that Twilight was based on a true story. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:22 AM GMT
    I haven't seen yet. What's your points?
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    bmw0 saidRacism, Trannies...what's next?
    Is it so hard to let a movie be a movie without getting all ridiculous about the plot line? Next i'll be hearing that Twilight was based on a true story. icon_rolleyes.gif




    Twilight wasn't based on a true story?
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:27 AM GMT
    Ahhh for fuck sake

    Disney are making an all african american princess movie with enough diversity forcably crammed and injected into a sacharin coat empitome of equality and diversity. that should suffice for all the tolken diversity for the movie industry for 2010

    SP did it best with Tolkien Black

    I mean diversity for diversity sake is pointless
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:28 AM GMT

    Racist?

    Having just seen the movie last night, I just can't imagine how you anyone could reasonably think the film is racist.

    One of the main reads I got on it was that it points out the hubris of American/European materialism, sense of cultural superiority, etc. All of the might of the most technologically advanced creatures is humbled by a Gaia-like universal intelligence.
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    Feb 01, 2010 2:46 AM GMT
    bmw0 saidRacism, Trannies...what's next?
    Is it so hard to let a movie be a movie without getting all ridiculous about the plot line? Next i'll be hearing that Twilight was based on a true story. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Nooooooo icon_cry.gif So I was planning in vain to go to Seattle.
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    Feb 01, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    This is as stupid & absurd as people thinking zombies will come when the end of the world happens, For Fuck Sake people
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    Feb 01, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    I have blue eyes...you have brown eyes...how nice, can we just take it like that?
  • EricLA

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    Feb 01, 2010 5:08 AM GMT
    Since most of the people responding to this thread are white, and perhaps might not be the most objective, let me offer this summary:

    http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/01/11/is-avatar-racist/

    It's not uncommon to have a movie's hero as a fish out of the water, introducing the audience to a wondrous world, whether it be imaginary like Star Wars or based in reality, like Lawrence of Arabia. But when you have that character saving a culture, whether it's Dances with Wolves or Avatar, it does smack of racism.

    I don't think that was Cameron's intention, but he's not the first to fall into that trap.
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    Feb 01, 2010 5:10 AM GMT
    Are you kidding? Watch it again cause you missed the entire movie!
  • gymingit

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    Feb 01, 2010 6:05 AM GMT
    Yeah.... My best friend in high school was black and we're still best friends to this day. I don't use the term African American because I believe it's Politically incorrect. I'm French, Italian, Irish, Native Indian American. WHITE if you haven't guessed or can see by my pic.

    WE'RE SIMPLY AMERICANS / NOW THE MOVIE AVATAR --

    IF RACIST, THEN WHY DID SO MANY MINORITIES SELL THEMSELVES OUT IN MAKING AND STARRING IN THE MOVIE.................

    I DON'T BELIEVE THEY DID. SORRY , BUT

    THE RACIST CARD DOESN'T FLY WITH THIS MOVIE.
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    Feb 01, 2010 9:38 AM GMT
    EricLA saidSince most of the people responding to this thread are white, and perhaps might not be the most objective, let me offer this summary:

    http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/01/11/is-avatar-racist/

    It's not uncommon to have a movie's hero as a fish out of the water, introducing the audience to a wondrous world, whether it be imaginary like Star Wars or based in reality, like Lawrence of Arabia. But when you have that character saving a culture, whether it's Dances with Wolves or Avatar, it does smack of racism.

    I don't think that was Cameron's intention, but he's not the first to fall into that trap.


    Good point.

    I don't think it's necessarily 'racist,' but I do think it exposes our innate desire as viewers to find a hero we can personally relate to. The appeal of this movie would drop dramatically if it were a Na'vi character to lead the counter attack against the human invaders. If you think about it, the hero in Hollywood movies is almost always a white American male, a white male in history, or Will Smith. icon_biggrin.gif... We want the hero to be someone that we can relate to. We don't want to see Independence Day where an alien saves us from his own kind. We especially don't want to appear helpless until that Alien makes a cliched speech to us while we cry and mope around a sacred tree. We want a group of American-born heroes to kick ass without any help, despite the odds being overwhelmingly against us. To some this might appeal because they're ethnocentric racists with a false sense of superiority, but I think to most it appeals because they want to see the hero as a reflection of themselves, and someone they can aspire to be.