How to know whether you are built big or overweight?

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    May 16, 2007 9:16 PM GMT
    I was wondering how to know whether I am just a heavy built guy or overweight.
    I am 5'9 200pounds and have a gut but it is hard as rock. It doesnt move at all. I do alot of ab work and I am unsure of whether I have just built my stomach out to much or whether its just fat under the solid stomach. I have a large upper body but my stomach sticks out when I where clothing. Does anyone else have similiar issues?
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    May 16, 2007 9:23 PM GMT
    Can't you just look in a full length mirror?
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    May 16, 2007 9:25 PM GMT
    well looking in the mirror I am built but my abs/stomach reach out as far as my chest. There is an outline of my abs but I dont have the 6-8 pack look.
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    May 16, 2007 9:57 PM GMT
    I need an image / photo that shows what you look like.

    You haven't come prepared to get your question answered.
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    May 16, 2007 9:59 PM GMT
    I took a picture in your profile and brightened it up.

    You need more cardio, less sugar. You're around 14% there.

    To be lean you need to be below 21%. You're lean but not ripped.

    To look real good you need to be around 10%.

    Mostly diet and cardio is indicated in your case, if you're not happy with the way you look now.
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    May 16, 2007 10:00 PM GMT
    If your stomach bulges, you probably eat to big of meals, or you're just plain fatter than you'd like.
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    May 16, 2007 10:15 PM GMT
    that hard prodruding stomach could be a beer gut perhaps, though i don't know enough about u to know- my uncle is mostly thin but as an alcoholic, he has a raging beer gut that is hard as rock, which is kinda scary. or, i've noticed when flipping chanels on those 'worlds strongest men' shows that are on occasionally- they all seem to have what you're describing- i think its just built up solid muscle without definition. when you do ab workouts, focus on sucking your gut in- imagine touching your belly button to your spine the whole time. otherwise, the muscle will develope all built out like that. and practice pulling your gut in when you walk around- my stomach would stick out too if i relaxed it, but i always keep it tight. hope that helps..
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    May 16, 2007 11:31 PM GMT
    i think you have built a pretty hard stomach which has a small layer of fat over it. once you lose the fat most likely you'll show some great abs. my brother was like this. did tons of ab work - had a hard stomach but nothing really to show for it. then over a couple months did tons of surfing, lost the fat and bam --- awesome abs.
  • canuckdave

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    May 16, 2007 11:40 PM GMT
    Have you used HGH, human growth hormone? this causes the internal organs to grow, which in turn, pushes your gut out. many great six pack over their extended stomach. There's no turning back once you've enlarged your intestines, spleen, liver etc.
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    May 16, 2007 11:42 PM GMT
    oops, That should read...many Bodybuilders have a great six pack over an extended gut.
  • canuckdave

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    May 16, 2007 11:44 PM GMT
    Foillowing on from Fitchboi's comment about 'worlds strongest men' and bodybuilders. I would imagine that most have used every chemical and supplement availble known to science, includingHuman Growth Hormone. Winning at all cost.
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    May 17, 2007 2:50 AM GMT
    chuckystud's advice regarding body fat percentage is good, because it is an objective measure. It's real hard to judge if you are overweight by looking at yourself in the mirror (body dismorpic disorders, etc). Body fat % can be measured with calipers and charts, and gives you a real good idea of whether or not you can improve your appearance by losing weight.
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    May 17, 2007 7:04 PM GMT
    Well, judging from the full-length picture on your page I'd say you're just right
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    May 17, 2007 8:21 PM GMT
    I want to thank you all for your responses to my question. Chucky I want to thank you for the time spent looking at my pics and saying I am at 14% body fat. I am probably more...
    Whats hard for me is I was 18months ago 165 pounds and had been for over 10 years and had a very obvious 6 pack. Since then I stopped drinking and continued eating like I use too, as much as I wanted and not gained a pound. I know some of my weight is from more body mass but I also know it is fat. I have been eating more sweets since I stopped drinking and have had a change in the way my body stores fat.
    I have not taken any Growth Hormone, even though I have thought about it. It is now more obvious for me that I must take more time with my cardio and be alot more careful what I eat. It doesnt help that my age has slowed my metabolism.
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    May 17, 2007 8:30 PM GMT
    Hey Bigmuscleboi,

    I don't care if your tummy sticks out a bit...I'll still date you!


    XOXO

    Musclebucket
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    May 17, 2007 8:34 PM GMT
    PS...I kinda have the same thing going on with my stomach..if you look at my pic.

    I've heard that alot of steriod users end up with kind of a hard, protruding "steroid gut." Not that you have used steriods, and i certainly haven't. But I have heard that something similar occurrs with long term steroid use....anybody else know about this?
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    May 17, 2007 8:56 PM GMT
    Thank you musclebucket for saying that. There is unfortunately the gay standard that if you arent built or have that hard 6 pack, your not completly accepted in the gay world. I know how extremely superficial that sounds but I do feel that is something that is unsaid yet very true.
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    May 17, 2007 9:09 PM GMT
    I know! I know!

    When they start giving you trophies, you're REAL BUILT!

    If you rate a consistent 9.1 to 9.9, you're real hot.

    If you get hate e-mail for your size, you're dead on!

    If only twinks think you're cute, you're not.
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    May 18, 2007 7:10 PM GMT
    The main thing to concentrate on is feeling secure and whole within yourself. If others get caught up in the superficial part of everyone, they really miss what is most important. The heart and soul of people. In this day of looking at and working towards the perfect ideal body that we see daily in advertising and print work, its a falsehood to be caught up in just what we look like. It really is something I work on on a daily basis. Its all up to person perception. I think alot of us on here, realjock, feel the same!!
  • atxclimber

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    May 18, 2007 7:17 PM GMT
    I agree, but I find it very difficult to go from saying that to believing it, i.e. sure, I'll happily say, "Gosh, society's standards for hot men are absurd, healthy men can easily have 10% more body fat than them!"

    But then I have to admit to myself that I have that attachment/craving with the idea of having a six-pack. Enough so that I'm doing a bunch of work to get one at the moment.

    You look like you have around the same body fat percentage that I do. My stomach is quite solid, too. But if I really bend forward at the spine, compressing my stomach, there's plenty of fat tissue on there too.

    On the one hand, I tell myself that losing more weight is good practice in self-discipline and will also help my climbing (just weighing less means less to lift) but then a little voice in my head also points out that I'm a bit motivated by vanity, too...

    Hard to overcome. My hope is that by getting down to 7% or so, I'll kind of know what it's like, "been there, done that" style, and if it's a ton of work to maintain, maybe then I'll be able to let myself go back up a bit without being dissatisfied.

    Good luck with your efforts!
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    May 18, 2007 8:26 PM GMT
    fitchboi, the big stomach is generally fat....not large organs (most guys can't afford that much GH), nor is it overdeveloped abs..it's just fat.

    That happens with alcoholics because of the way alcohol interacts with insulin. Same thing about the skinny guy who lives on sweets, and no protein, no exercise, and yet has a beer gut, weighing all of 140 at 6 feet. The saying goes: garbage in; garbage out.

    Blood sugar levels, insulin, and the glycemic indexes of various foods are worth further study.
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    May 18, 2007 8:41 PM GMT
    Not sure if it's true, but a trainer once told me that it is important to hold your stomach muscles in when working out your abs. He said that keeping your ab muscles relaxed or even pushing them out while working out causes the ab muscles to grow outward. He said it also causes those little muscle handles to develope on the sides of your abs.

    Again, I'm not sure if it is true but I always make it a point to hold my ab muscles in when doing any ab exercises.
  • MikemikeMike

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    May 18, 2007 10:00 PM GMT
    If you have ever done steroids, it could be "roid gut". If not check your body fat% and up your cardio training. Good luck.
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    May 19, 2007 12:44 AM GMT
    Roid gut! So that is what it is called called. I have seen kinda ripped guys that have a huge protruding but hard gut...i don't think it looks good at all. I was worried i might end up like that but with some core traing i'm almost down to a 31 w so i know it is not an old age thing. My advice to one and all it cut out all man made food. The pounds fall offand you can still eat really well. Meat and veggies, fruit, nuts...skip all the pasta, bread, chips, cake and sugar.
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    May 19, 2007 10:47 AM GMT
    Number of factors:

    Body fat is stored in the connective tissue over muscle not the other way around.

    Stay away from starchy foods, bread and sugar. Bread tends to bloat the stomach slowing down the digestive system.

    Try a detoxification program it may help. contact me if you need more info.

    Stress can be a huge factor too.

    Increase your cardio workouts if the above don't work.