Furthering the CBS catastrophe

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    Feb 03, 2010 3:08 PM GMT
    http://www.towleroad.com/2010/02/cbs-helped-script-antiabortion-focus-on-the-family-tebow-ad.html

    Like Metta has posted before we know CBS is allowing an ad with Tim Tebow in it.

    The article about shows CBS's own participation in the scripting of the commercial. So now, not only did CBS approve this anti-abortion ad and AND decline a gay dating website (who offered 2 million for a 20s slot) commercial time but now they have been caught actually making/participating in the script for the anti-abortion commercial.
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:11 PM GMT
    CBS=christian broadcasting system

    Fuck that shit.
  • DCEric

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    Feb 03, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
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    This will all end in tears.

    I won't watch the super bowl (first time since I was oh, 7 or icon_cool.gif if they don't at the least balance the ads, or better yet dump the political one.
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
    Does anyone know if the the child pornographer, Pete Townshend will be smashing any guitars during the half time show?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 03, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
    I hate to say it, but CBS can choose to air, or not air, any commercial they want as long as it doesn't violate any FCC regulations
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    You've got a firm grasp of the obvious, but nobody is debating the point you raise.
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
    Okay, I don't like it either, but is this really a CATASTROPHE, Pin? Seems a little over the top to me to call it that. But hey, what do I know... for all I know, CBS is simply trying to stir up some more ratings and discourse about itself online by doing something this controversial.

    Like I said... don't like it, but I am not going to make it a hill to die on. Besides, I'm much more interested in the game and pigging out during the game, so I'll probably get up and leave the room to go to the fridge when it's commercial time.
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:34 PM GMT
    It is a catastrophe in terms of equality issues in 2010. Furthermore, CBS is really setting themselves up for a possible backlash. The network is making it obvious it is choosing a side. While it may not be explicit, such a public display of non-neutrality as related to major political rights issues is not a wise choice.

    This could easily lead to protests and marketers pulling their advertisements from normal syndication.

    This isn't fucking CWTN, it is a a national channel. It is disappointing to see such a display.
  • Celticmusl

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    Feb 03, 2010 3:48 PM GMT
    I really do find it a complete hypocrisy that they won't run a gay site commercial but of course if it promotes alcoholic beverages, what could be better for the masses?

    And what channel ran the ad with the two guys kissing by both eating a Snickers bar? So being gay is ok as long as it's being made fun of?

    That no one else finds this series of events at least disheartening is the reason why CBS is doing it, because the people that should actually care, don't really give a phuck.

    I, for one, will rarely, if ever, watch CBS again until they change their ways. Luckily, they have a bunch of sh*t programing only the elderly should have to endure watching.
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    I don't see that the backlash is going to be possible.... it's going to happen. But like I said, in the business of entertainment, doing the think that gets your name out there on people's lips and on blogs is part of the game. They're playing that move in a rather risky way, admittedly... and I think it IS largely becasue they have (as Celticmusl pointed out above) rather shitty programming.

    But as for a catastrophe in terms of equality, I'm not sure what you mean... and I'm still not sure I agree. Yes, CBS is a national network, but does that mean that they are necessarily bound to political or social impartiality because of it? I was going to say, NBC is anything BUT impartial... they and their subsidiaries (CNBC and MSNBC) are VERY left-of-center politically and socially, if I am not mistaken, and they have both the commercials and the content to prove it.

    I'm not saying you're wrong, Pin... believe me. And like I said, I agree with you that it's a bad move on CBS's part, but I just can't see it as a crisis. Maybe I'm wrong for not...
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    Feb 03, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    FotF, based in colorado springs, spent 2.5 million on this ad. Today, the reports are out that colorado springs is in the shit can financially speaking because the conservative population there voted down new taxes. It will not break my heart if CS and FotF dries up (lack of watering) and turns into a cinder. It will be god's punishment for letting FotF exist, as they are in league with satan.
  • Celticmusl

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    Someone needs to make a commercial about how gay football is, and call it FOOTBALL IS GAY and slo-mo all the shots of guys slapping each others behinds and hugging. Football has already taken sides of this issue my friends....and it is gay!
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    Feb 03, 2010 4:05 PM GMT
    No, please, let's not make football gay. Let's adhere to our high standards.
  • BarettaB80

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI hate to say it, but CBS can choose to air, or not air, any commercial they want as long as it doesn't violate any FCC regulations

    [cite]McGay replied[/cite]You've got a firm grasp of the obvious, but nobody is debating the point you raise.


    In fact, that's precisely what everyone is bitching about. If you don't care about CBS' rights, why should anyone care about GLBT rights? Who chooses which rights apply to whom?
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    Feb 03, 2010 4:28 PM GMT
    Nobody, n o b o d y is denying CBS' rights. Exercising one's right to free speech is not an infringement on anyone else's right to free speech.
  • Celticmusl

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 said
    CuriousJockAZ saidI hate to say it, but CBS can choose to air, or not air, any commercial they want as long as it doesn't violate any FCC regulations

    [cite]McGay replied[/cite]You've got a firm grasp of the obvious, but nobody is debating the point you raise.


    In fact, that's precisely what everyone is bitching about. If you don't care about CBS' rights, why should anyone care about GLBT rights? Who chooses which rights apply to whom?



    Um, CBS is not a person, or a minority, etc. It is a business, which literally has legal obligations to it's community and viewers to be allowed to stay in business. Believe me, I will never fight for the rights of big business. In fact, I will more than likely do the exact opposite. That's fine that CBS can air whatever commercials it wants, but we as the gay community should understand the bitch-slap for what it is, and make sure CBS does not get our viewer-ship.
  • BarettaB80

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:36 PM GMT
    McGay saidNobody, n o b o d y is denying CBS' rights. Exercising one's right to free speech is not an infringement on anyone else's right to free speech.


    So why, then, is everyone so pissed off? Everyone is pissed off because CBS chose (allegedly) not to air a GLBT-themed advertisement. If what you said above is the case, then no one would be debating this issue. Case closed. "Free speech" is not the be-all, end-all of rights. There are others, and there must be a logical, rational way for ALL rights to be upheld. As per the Constitution, in this way they are.
  • DCEric

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 said
    McGay saidNobody, n o b o d y is denying CBS' rights. Exercising one's right to free speech is not an infringement on anyone else's right to free speech.


    So why, then, is everyone so pissed off? Everyone is pissed off because CBS chose (allegedly) not to air a GLBT-themed advertisement. If what you said above is the case, then no one would be debating this issue. Case closed. "Free speech" is not the be-all, end-all of rights. There are others, and there must be a logical, rational way for ALL rights to be upheld. As per the Constitution, in this way they are.


    It's my constitutional right to be pissed off at CBS.
  • Timbales

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:39 PM GMT
    I don't watch the Super Bowl. I don't watch football normally so I don't see the point. It's like only going to church on Christmas.
  • Rowing_Ant

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    I am so glad we have the BBC in Great Britain. So very glad.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
    DCEric said

    It's my constitutional right to be pissed off at CBS.



    Yes it is...be pissed! That's why God invented the BRAVO channel icon_lol.gif
  • BarettaB80

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    Feb 03, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    [quote]
    Um, CBS is not a person, or a minority, etc. It is a business, which literally has legal obligations to it's community and viewers to be allowed to stay in business. Believe me, I will never fight for the rights of big business. In fact, I will more than likely do the exact opposite. That's fine that CBS can air whatever commercials it wants, but we as the gay community should understand the bitch-slap for what it is, and make sure CBS does not get our viewer-ship. [/quote]

    That's fine if you view it as a bitch-slap, and more power to you for whatever personal actions you take in response. That's certainly within your rights. My point is that there shouldn't be some kind of obligatory outrage, as no one's rights were infringed upon here.
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    Feb 03, 2010 5:16 PM GMT
    That commercial was poorly done and the site itself looks like more of a hook-up site rather than a dating one.
    Rowing_Ant saidI am so glad we have the BBC in Great Britain. So very glad.

    British television is so Shameless, and I love it.
  • Celticmusl

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    Feb 03, 2010 5:18 PM GMT
    BarettaB80 said[quote]
    Um, CBS is not a person, or a minority, etc. It is a business, which literally has legal obligations to it's community and viewers to be allowed to stay in business. Believe me, I will never fight for the rights of big business. In fact, I will more than likely do the exact opposite. That's fine that CBS can air whatever commercials it wants, but we as the gay community should understand the bitch-slap for what it is, and make sure CBS does not get our viewer-ship.


    That's fine if you view it as a bitch-slap, and more power to you for whatever personal actions you take in response. That's certainly within your rights. My point is that there shouldn't be some kind of obligatory outrage, as no one's rights were infringed upon here.[/quote]


    "CBS told the Web site that all ad space was already full, even though a handful of spots still remain unsold, said Man Crunch spokesman Dominic Friesen."

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/all_guy_dating_site_gets_super_bowl_fCCRuiVFPXkWlORm7cs03N#ixzz0eUgmEb9X


    CBS literally has stated that your sexual orientation is offensive, and lied to the web company about the ad stating that ad space was already full. How is this different from a diner telling a black couple that there are no seats available while clearly there are seats available, but only available for white people? Both are businesses, both would make good money from the transaction, both are discriminating. Now tell me that the diner has that right to serve whomever it deems acceptable.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Feb 03, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    After seeing the ad...assuming this is for real and not some hoax...I am sooooooo glad CBS refused to air it. It does not reflect gays in a positive light what so ever, so what would be the point? I'm shocked that any of you would even want that stupid ad airing -- during The Super Bowl no less -- are you kidding me?

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/all_guy_dating_site_gets_super_bowl_fCCRuiVFPXkWlORm7cs03N#ixzz0eUgmEb9X