OKAY, it's about time to IMPEACH these Supreme Court demagogues

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    Feb 04, 2010 6:39 PM GMT
    This item just came across the news:


    GAINESVILLE, Fla. – Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas says some questioning of the court and government is getting out of hand.

    Thomas told an audience Thursday at the University of Florida law school that some of the comments "border on being irresponsible" and "run the risk in our society of undermining institutions that we need to preserve our liberties."

    Thomas did not speak specifically about the court's recent decision on campaign financing or mention President Barack Obama.


    How much more of this elitist, corporate-driven, theocracy-secrecy-star chamber bullshit are we gonna take in this country before we simply take our America, the one For The People, BACK (forcibly if need be), and restore what The Constitution stands for?

    Including equal civil rights FOR ALL?

    This is what happens when We The People become too complacent, and frankly, too afraid to challenge the "authorities" who use the threat of incarceration or deadly force to impose their greed and bigotry, and stupidity on us?

    It's no surprise that these Baptists in Idaho felt they could circumvent the rules that we presumably all agree to in a nation of laws, when they started trying to spirit those children across the border from Haiti into the Dominican Republic before trying to bring them here. "We're a church group! Our supposed 'good intentions under Christ' absolve us of any responsibility to actually follow the laws of The Land."

    Just like they are doing in order to curtail any Gay Rights laws that are passed or proposed.

    As long as the churches and the corporations are allowed free reign and supported in doing so by The (alledged) Supreme Court, we are no longer a nation of Free People.

    We need to impeach, protest, and fight to have every one of the 'justices' on that court who support Thomas and the corporate-driven System removed. In fact, they should be placed in prison for the rest of their lives.

    Just had to get that out of my system.

    I know some of you on this site hate my guts, so let the flames begin!
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    Feb 04, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    In before the first gay Republican rant!
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    Feb 04, 2010 7:06 PM GMT
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    Feb 04, 2010 7:14 PM GMT
    To the best of my knowledge Supreme Court Justices can't be impeached.
    They only leave the bench when they die or resign. That is why confirmation is brutal and long.

    Because it's a life-long appointment. With each new party administration that is in the White House and if there is a hint that justice is going to leave the bench it's going to be a bare-knuckle fight.

    Justice Thomas views should not come as a surprise to any one. He's has always been ultra-conservative. It’s what he does!icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 04, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    Ducky46 saidTo the best of my knowledge Supreme Court Justices can't be impeached.
    They only leave the bench when they die or resign. That is why confirmation is brutal and long.

    Because it's a life-long appointment. With each new party administration that is in the White House and if there is a hint that justice is going to leave the bench it's going to be a bare-knuckle fight.

    Justice Thomas views should not come as a surprise to any one. He's has always been ultra-conservative. It’s what he does!icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif



    I believe you're wrong. Congress can impeach a Supreme Court justice, though not just because of differences in opinions. Just like the president: House impeaches, Senate removes.

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    Feb 04, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
    Ducky46 saidTo the best of my knowledge Supreme Court Justices can't be impeached.
    They only leave the bench when they die or resign. That is why confirmation is brutal and long.

    Because it's a life-long appointment. With each new party administration that is in the White House and if there is a hint that justice is going to leave the bench it's going to be a bare-knuckle fight.

    Justice Thomas views should not come as a surprise to any one. He's has always been ultra-conservative. It’s what he does!icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    I understand what you're saying, in regards to the circular construction of the laws that allow those justices to stay in place. And although it may seem off-topic, your remarks made me think of this video.

    And yes, I'm a Libertarian, and Pro-Second Ammendment.





    Unfortunately, I think there's more to this video, but can't seem to find it.
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    Feb 04, 2010 9:02 PM GMT
    I Goggled it. Should have done it before:

    Under normal circumstances, a Supreme Court justice is awarded a lifetime commission.

    A Supreme Court Justice may be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted in a Senate trial, but only for the same types of offenses that would trigger impeachment proceedings for any other government official under Article I and II of the Constitution.

    Section 1 of Article III states that judges of Article III courts shall hold their offices "during good behavior." "The phrase "good behavior" has been interpreted by the courts to equate to the same level of seriousness the 'high crimes and misdemeanors" encompasses.

    In addition, any federal judge may prosecuted in the criminal courts for criminal activity. If found guilty of a crime in a federal district court, the justice would face the same type of sentencing any other criminal defendant would. The district court could not remove him/her from the Bench. However, any justice found guilty in the criminal courts of any felony would certainly be impeached and, if found guilty, removed from office.

    In the United States, impeachment is most often used to remove corrupt lower-court federal judges from office, but it's not unusual to find disgruntled special interest groups circulating petitions on the internet calling for the impeachment of one or all members of the High Court.


    The Impeachment Process

    Impeachment is a two-step process; the impeachment phase is similar to a Grand Jury hearing, where charges (called "articles of impeachment") are presented and the House of Representatives determines whether the evidence is sufficient to warrant a trial. If the House vote passes by a simple majority, the defendant is "impeached," and proceeds to trial in the Senate.

    The Senate trial, while analogous to a criminal trial, only convenes for the purpose of determining whether a Justice (or other officeholder) should be removed from office on the basis of the evidence presented at impeachment.

    At the trial a committee from the House of Representatives, called "Managers," act as the prosecutor, and an "Impeachment Trial Committee" of Senators act as the presiding judges. This procedure came into practice in the 1980s, with the passage of Senate Rule XII, and has been contested by several federal court judges, but the Supreme Court has declined to interfere in the process, calling the issue a political, not legal, matter. At the conclusion of the trial, the full Senate votes and must return a two-thirds Super Majority for conviction. Convicted officials are removed from office immediately and barred from holding future office.


    Impeachment and Near Impeachment

    Only one Supreme Court Justice, Samuel Chase (one of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence), has ever been impeached. The House of Representatives accused Chase of letting his Federalist political leanings affect his rulings, and served him with eight articles of impeachment in late 1804. The Senate acquitted him of all charges in 1805, establishing the right of the judiciary to independent opinion. Chase continued on the Court until his death in June 1811.

    In 1957, at the height of McCarthyism, the Georgia General Assembly passed a joint resolution calling for "The Impeachment of Certain U.S. Supreme Court Justices" believed to be enabling Communism with their decisions. The resolution targeted Chief Justice Earl Warren and Associate Justices Hugo Black, William O. Douglas, Tom Campbell Clark, Felix Frankfurter, and Stanley Forman Reed (as well as several unnamed deceased Justices) for "...[usurping] the congressional power to make law in violation of Article I, Sections I and 8, and violated Sections 3 and 5 of the 14th Amendment and nullified the 10th Amendment of the Constitution."


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    Feb 04, 2010 9:23 PM GMT
    VERY interesting information, Ducky! Great research on your part, Thanks!
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    Feb 04, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    zeebyaboi saidVERY interesting information, Ducky! Great research on your part, Thanks!



    Yea, but my description was more efficient, and in this age of tiny attention spans, I always think that's best.

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    Feb 04, 2010 11:35 PM GMT
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    zeebyaboi saidVERY interesting information, Ducky! Great research on your part, Thanks!



    Yea, but my description was more efficient, and in this age of tiny attention spans, I always think that's best.



    That's your opinion, about efficiency. Personally I enjoyed reading the entire text that Ducky posted. I prefer not to have my information abridged or interpreted by someone else before I read it (unless I can't understand the jargon), and the detail in Ducky's response allows for greater understanding of the impeachment or trial process than can be found in a simple one or two-sentence soundbite.
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 04, 2010 11:39 PM GMT
    Sounds like Clarence Thomas is thin-skinned. Is he going to announce a retirement soon? One only hopes.
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    Feb 04, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
    zeebyaboi said
    djdorchester said
    zeebyaboi saidVERY interesting information, Ducky! Great research on your part, Thanks!



    Yea, but my description was more efficient, and in this age of tiny attention spans, I always think that's best.



    That's your opinion, about efficiency. Personally I enjoyed reading the entire text that Ducky posted. I prefer not to have my information abridged or interpreted by someone else before I read it (unless I can't understand the jargon), and the detail in Ducky's response allows for greater understanding of the impeachment or trial process than can be found in a simple one or two-sentence soundbite.



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    Feb 05, 2010 12:13 AM GMT
    djdorchester said
    zeebyaboi said
    djdorchester said
    zeebyaboi saidVERY interesting information, Ducky! Great research on your part, Thanks!



    Yea, but my description was more efficient, and in this age of tiny attention spans, I always think that's best.



    That's your opinion, about efficiency. Personally I enjoyed reading the entire text that Ducky posted. I prefer not to have my information abridged or interpreted by someone else before I read it (unless I can't understand the jargon), and the detail in Ducky's response allows for greater understanding of the impeachment or trial process than can be found in a simple one or two-sentence soundbite.



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  • Webster666

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    Feb 05, 2010 12:44 AM GMT
    Yeh, the House of Representatives brings the charges (usually "high crimes and misdemeanors") against the Supreme Court Justice, and the Senate tries them.

    Trouble is, as bad as 4 or 5 of them are, they haven't committed anything worthy of impeachment.

    Maybe someone could arrange for them to have an "accident."
  • trl_

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    Feb 05, 2010 12:48 AM GMT
    Trying to impeach a Supreme Court justice is just as easy as catching a cloud in a jar.