Feb 05, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
How many Realjocks would consider joining the military if DADT is ever repealed?
REALJOCKS in the Military....
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Feb 05, 2010 4:42 AM GMTBeingThePhoenix saidHow many Realjocks would consider joining the military if DADT is ever repealed?
I would have considered it when I was younger. Now that I'm established elsewhere I'll stick to what I am doing. -
Feb 05, 2010 4:53 AM GMTI'm joining next summer, whether or not it is repealed or if there is some executive order to halt discharges.
Considering that so many bisexual and gay men join the military regardless of DADT, I don't think it'll matter to most in their decision to enlist. The repeal of DADT will certainly make the armed forces more appealing because you'll be free to be open about yourself without fear of discharge, but the repeal won't change the nature of training and the job. -
Feb 05, 2010 6:35 AM GMTcreature saidI'm joining next summer, whether or not it is repealed or if there is some executive order to halt discharges.
Considering that so many bisexual and gay men join the military regardless of DADT, I don't think it'll matter to most in their decision to enlist. The repeal of DADT will certainly make the armed forces more appealing because you'll be free to be open about yourself without fear of discharge, but the repeal won't change the nature of training and the job.
Agreed! I dont think it would make things much different except for the fact that people will be alot more comfortable with their jobs. I would consider joining, cuz work else where is pretty hard to find. -
Feb 05, 2010 6:54 AM GMTcreature saidI'm joining next summer, whether or not it is repealed or if there is some executive order to halt discharges.
Considering that so many bisexual and gay men join the military regardless of DADT, I don't think it'll matter to most in their decision to enlist. The repeal of DADT will certainly make the armed forces more appealing because you'll be free to be open about yourself without fear of discharge, but the repeal won't change the nature of training and the job.
True, but what about those who have not enlisted, because they can't bring their partners along with them? Army wives can live on base. -
Feb 05, 2010 7:02 AM GMTI think i remember hearing them say thats one of the issues they were addressing in the fact fining committee the secretary of defense was putting together, and i believe the palm institute mentioned something about that im not mistaken. LOL I was reading about this stuff 2 days ago and i forgot to save the links.... -
Feb 05, 2010 7:15 AM GMTI'm going to join the air force regardless I'm not going to be known as the boy that didn't serve his country in my family -
Feb 05, 2010 9:50 AM GMTSpace_Cowboy_89 saidI'm going to join the air force regardless I'm not going to be known as the boy that didn't serve his country in my family
Why would they think that? -
Feb 05, 2010 9:51 AM GMTBeingThePhoenix said
True, but what about those who have not enlisted, because they can't bring their partners along with them? Army wives can live on base.
Or get married. That's illegal in the military for gay people too. And all the support programs for couples homosexuals can't get for obvious reasons. -
Feb 05, 2010 9:52 AM GMTHow many Realjocks would consider joining the military if DADT is ever repealed?
I don't think I could, it would be too much of a violation of principle for me now. I don't think the military is at all like it touts itself to be. -
Feb 05, 2010 10:28 AM GMTBeen there. Done that. 1/12 CAV. Go Army! Hooah!
Serving my country was the greatest honor I ever had, gay or otherwise. -
Feb 05, 2010 10:31 AM GMTWell I know I would. Military is and has been a big part of my family, DADT is the only thing keeping me from joining. I have a big problem with lying about who I am. I am by no means flamboyant but I do have my moments and would not lie to someone if they asked. So WHEN this does get repealed I will likely be joining the Air Force. -
Feb 05, 2010 10:40 AM GMTVUandC88 saidWell I know I would. Military is and has been a big part of my family, DADT is the only thing keeping me from joining. I have a big problem with lying about who I am. I am by no means flamboyant but I do have my moments and would not lie to someone if they asked. So WHEN this does get repealed I will likely be joining the Air Force.
in a lot of ways, this makes me really proud of you, bud. -
Feb 05, 2010 10:42 AM GMT
I would kick myself, for sure, but I do think that the experience and being immersed in such a living style that is completely different than my own would be a notable experience. the level of concentration and regulation ... the aspect of being nearly and completely re-socialized ... is overwhelming yet somehow a potentially engaging one. -
Feb 05, 2010 12:42 PM GMTI've given serious consideration to going back.....but I'd need DADT and Afghanistan to both be over..... -
Feb 05, 2010 1:09 PM GMTI grew up in a family, and a culture that doesn't condone military work, and those values were instilled in me. So regardless of the state of DADT, I would not want to join the military. There is nothing for me there. -
Feb 05, 2010 5:11 PM GMTI would hope it will allow many guys and gals with potential to join, we lose alot of good men and women to DADT.... it's a shame.
They compare it to integrating blacks which took forever (supposedly) , I say it's just stubbornness. -
Feb 05, 2010 5:13 PM GMT
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Feb 05, 2010 5:17 PM GMTAs having been on active duty for the last 17-1/2 years on active duty, I would surely NOT join. And it has nothing to do with any policy on homosexuals. The problem I have with the military, specifically with the Army, is that the quality of leadership has significantly worsened since 9/11. If there is any example that can illustrate what I'm talking about, it is the leadership that failed the troops in not doing anything against MAJ Hassan for his radical beliefs and threatening statements. His murder spree in Fort Hood gives me great anguish and is a tell-tell sign of the waste that has become Army leadership. -
Feb 05, 2010 5:25 PM GMTI defiantly would. Its one of the best jobs to have in the world. The job security that is offered is unparallel to any other career -
Feb 05, 2010 5:34 PM GMTAlready working in the military. DADT isn't a big deal to me since I act professionally and keep my work life and private life separate. I would act the same way if I worked at a restaurant or in construction; it's nobodies business but my own. -
Feb 05, 2010 5:38 PM GMTJayneCobb saidAlready working in the military. DADT isn't a big deal to me since I act professionally and keep my work life and private life separate. I would act the same way if I worked at a restaurant or in construction; it's nobodies business but my own.
And what if it were legal to be openly gay in the military? Some people would know that you're in a relationship should you get family housing or family separation pay when you deploy. Family care plans...what about your promotion ceremony or your reenlistment ceremony. school graduations...all of which your gay spouse is in attendance.
My point is that DADT isn't just about legally serving, it's also about equality of benefits. -
Feb 05, 2010 6:10 PM GMTcoolarmydude said
JayneCobb saidAlready working in the military. DADT isn't a big deal to me since I act professionally and keep my work life and private life separate. I would act the same way if I worked at a restaurant or in construction; it's nobodies business but my own.
And what if it were legal to be openly gay in the military? Some people would know that you're in a relationship should you get family housing or family separation pay when you deploy. Family care plans...what about your promotion ceremony or your reenlistment ceremony. school graduations...all of which your gay spouse is in attendance.
My point is that DADT isn't just about legally serving, it's also about equality of benefits.
Well since gays can't get married in a majority of states all of the family talk goes right out the window until that changes right? I'm not sure on the paperwork and benefits if your just in a relationship with someone. -
Feb 05, 2010 10:42 PM GMTI definitely would consider joining if it's repealed. I want to use my Arabic in the Army or Navy! -
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