Why true blue homosexuals and bisexuals are becoming Republicans

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    Feb 06, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
    Because the Democrates are becoming even more hated.

    I'm learning more and more about the process of American politics. I have also learned how big of Pussies Democrates really are. The past off-year elections, democrats promised they would:

    get you out of Iraq, thus us Down Under. See how american politics effects the Island of Oz too.

    raise education funds.

    hold president accountable for his actions. Of course they haven't accomplished any of the above.

    What do Democrats stand for:

    1: Civil Liberties? Nope, they can;t even agree on "gay marriage"!

    2: Education? Nope, they don't want any "new taxes" to take care of the problem.

    3: Anti war? Nope, they showed exactly what they think about that. Invade Iraq. Yep fine by them. Fund the war? Yep, can't stop that. Force the president to withdraw? Of course not. Don't be so silly.

    4: What about health care for everone? Wow they even suggested that. There goes a decent amount of funding, that would never happen.

    5: How about the environment? do they stand for that? Nope. Although a majority of the money donated by large oil companies still goes to the Republicans, democrats still receive 27% of all oil and gas money.

    6: Holding the president accountable, maybe they are for that........right? Nah that would take "too much time, or they want us to believe." They claim that impeachment proceedings will take away from "important matters", like renaming Libraries.
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    Feb 06, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
    Let's call "girly men"
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    Feb 06, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    icon_idea.gif I think we need to start our own party.
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    Feb 06, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    Why...

    Because you touch yourself at night pattycakes icon_twisted.gif


  • DanielQQ

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    Feb 06, 2010 10:18 PM GMT
    Pattison saidBecause the Democrates are becoming even more hated.

    I'm learning more and more about the process of American politics. I have also learned how big of Pussies Democrates really are. The past off-year elections, democrats promised they would:

    get you out of Iraq, thus us Down Under. See how american politics effects the Island of Oz too.

    raise education funds.

    hold president accountable for his actions. Of course they haven't accomplished any of the above.

    What do Democrats stand for:

    1: Civil Liberties? Nope, they can;t even agree on "gay marriage"!

    2: Education? Nope, they don't want any "new taxes" to take care of the problem.

    3: Anti war? Nope, they showed exactly what they think about that. Invade Iraq. Yep fine by them. Fund the war? Yep, can't stop that. Force the president to withdraw? Of course not. Don't be so silly.

    4: What about health care for everone? Wow they even suggested that. There goes a decent amount of funding, that would never happen.

    5: How about the environment? do they stand for that? Nope. Although a majority of the money donated by large oil companies still goes to the Republicans, democrats still receive 27% of all oil and gas money.

    6: Holding the president accountable, maybe they are for that........right? Nah that would take "too much time, or they want us to believe." They claim that impeachment proceedings will take away from "important matters", like renaming Libraries.


    dude if you think republicans have any more integrity in American politics that Dems, you are seriously blind. I find that the loudest voices on either side of the aisle are also the least reasonable.
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    Feb 06, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    They're trying to subvert the system from within.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 06, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
    Because the democrats a have become the party of broken promises combined with endless tax and spend, tax and spend.
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    Feb 06, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
    I find it uneasily funny that over the years I've come to RJ, all the hatful, spitful, bitter things I have read from gay and bisexual democrats here; acceptance they demand, accepting they are not!! Bitter and abusive maybe, but accepting of all things never.

    Yet when the cards are turned those who have gloated with glee over the death of another, just because he was a republican, do not find it funny, and as a bisexual try too repress one a pure true blue homosexual, on gay issues, yet they are bi and incecure.

    Or just your Joe Blow, who feels it right and just to put all that is wrong in and with America, on the republicans. yet don't even think it's funny when the cards have been turned, and some-one is making fun of democrats.

    Because I have never swam with the flow here, where anything that looks like it may lean to the right is hated and subjected to abuse, and the moment the dems feel insecure they put all their SUVs, and 4x4 in a circle, and stick together, for fear of standing on their own, as I do. You just gotta laugh.icon_lol.gificon_razz.gificon_biggrin.gif
  • Webster666

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    Feb 06, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    Are you off your meds, again, or did you drink your lunch ?
  • H2Oskier

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    Feb 06, 2010 10:39 PM GMT
    It would be pretty irrational for any gay people to become Republicans for any of the reasons you noted.

    While it's true that the Democrats have not been successful with advancing gay rights, or reducing military spending, or healthcare reform, why would any person who cared about such issues join a party that says that those failures are a good thing?

    It's apparent that you don't know much about American politics, but if you do some basic research on the Republican party you'll learn that they support a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, and are against most gay rights in general. They do not support any reduction in military involvement anywhere, ever. They do not want health care reform of any kind, because our system is fine.

    There are reasons for the existence of gay Republicans, but most of them just want low taxes.

    I realize the purpose of the thread was just to stir up argument...sorry for pointing out the flaws in its main premise.
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    Feb 06, 2010 11:27 PM GMT
    There is believing in a party platform and then there is supporting (or not supporting) elected HUMANS to lead that party.

    I DON"T have a problem with the Democratic Platform; I HAVE a problem with its leadership--or lack thereof.

    I HAVE a problem with the Republican Platform; I HAVE a problem with its leadership--or lack thereof.

    Pattison gives us reasons of why we should question the Democratic party--he didn't give any reasons to support the Republican party.

    I wish there were a progressive party and wish the US was not solely a two-party system--what's an independent to do?

    And why is someone who lives in the "Island of Oz" into US politics?

    Someone once told me that US politics is like a pendullum--swings one way for a while until the American public gets sick of that party... then it swings in the other direction... and so on.

    Right-->Left-->Right --> Left... and all the while, the public is getting taken advantage of.
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    Feb 06, 2010 11:56 PM GMT
    PAJohn said
    Pattison saidI find it uneasily funny that over the years I've come to RJ, all the hatful, spitful, bitter things I have read from gay and bisexual democrats here; acceptance they demand, accepting they are not!! Bitter and abusive maybe, but accepting of all things never.

    Yet when the cards are turned those who have gloated with glee over the death of another, just because he was a republican, do not find it funny, and as a bisexual try too repress one a pure true blue homosexual, on gay issues, yet they are bi and incecure.

    Or just your Joe Blow, who feels it right and just to put all that is wrong in and with America, on the republicans. yet don't even think it's funny when the cards have been turned, and some-one is making fun of democrats.

    Because I have never swam with the flow here, where anything that looks like it may lean to the right is hated and subjected to abuse, and the moment the dems feel insecure they put all their SUVs, and 4x4 in a circle, and stick together, for fear of standing on their own, as I do. You just gotta laugh.icon_lol.gificon_razz.gificon_biggrin.gif


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  • mcwclewis

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    Feb 07, 2010 12:04 AM GMT
    Please stop posting political forums just to get people riled up. It's kind of annoying.
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    Feb 07, 2010 1:39 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]conscienti1984 said[/cite]

    "And why is someone who lives in the "Island of Oz" into US politics?"


    Perhaps he's really in Melbourne....... Florida?
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    Feb 07, 2010 2:33 AM GMT
    meninlove saidPerhaps he's really in Melbourne....... Florida?

    Oh, gawd, what a frightening thought. icon_razz.gif
  • mcwclewis

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    Feb 07, 2010 2:37 AM GMT
    Really though...


    where would all the fun be on RJ without Pattison?
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    Feb 07, 2010 3:31 AM GMT
    mcwclewis saidReally though...

    where would all the fun be on RJ without Pattison?

    I suppose I'd be forced to revert to my second favorite pastime: hammering nails into my head. icon_razz.gif
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    Feb 07, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    And the Bible thumpin' Conservatives are going to welcome the Gays with open arms! Yeah right...Dick Cheney will be standing at the gates of Hell welcoming them there maybeicon_evil.gif But never into their beloved partyicon_evil.gif
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    Feb 07, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    mcwclewis saidReally though...


    where would all the fun be on RJ without Pattison?


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  • Webster666

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    Feb 07, 2010 4:41 AM GMT
    You could at least learn how to spell D-E-M-O-C-R-A-T.
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    Feb 07, 2010 5:04 AM GMT
    kscott6671 said icon_idea.gif I think we need to start our own party.


    We really do need a third party.... one that is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Cause I'm not happy with either party at the moment and I don't think I'm alone.
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    Feb 07, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    1/2 beer and i say
    def. fuck

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    Feb 07, 2010 5:13 AM GMT
    conscienti1984 saidThere is believing in a party platform and then there is supporting (or not supporting) elected HUMANS to lead that party.

    I DON"T have a problem with the Democratic Platform; I HAVE a problem with its leadership--or lack thereof.

    I HAVE a problem with the Republican Platform; I HAVE a problem with its leadership--or lack thereof.

    Pattison gives us reasons of why we should question the Democratic party--he didn't give any reasons to support the Republican party.

    I wish there were a progressive party and wish the US was not solely a two-party system--what's an independent to do?

    And why is someone who lives in the "Island of Oz" into US politics?

    Someone once told me that US politics is like a pendullum--swings one way for a while until the American public gets sick of that party... then it swings in the other direction... and so on.

    Right-->Left-->Right --> Left... and all the while, the public is getting taken advantage of.


    This is exactly right... yes, the dems are wimps. Yes, their platform is good but they often don't come through on it. But let's remember who the real problem is... the wimpy leadership is only that way because of their fear of coming up against conservative "democrats" who are really just lobbyist's puppets and the ever-present GOP obstructionism. It's with the last two groups that the blame ultimately lies.

    And I just don't get why people who are disappointed with the dems results would want to go red: The dems have a good platform but an ineffective promotion of that platform. The repubs, however, have an evil platform combined with effective promotion. Why the F*CK would you screw this nation over by trading bad for horrifyingly worse??!
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    Feb 07, 2010 5:46 AM GMT
    abm1985 said
    kscott6671 said icon_idea.gif I think we need to start our own party.


    We really do need a third party.... one that is socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Cause I'm not happy with either party at the moment and I don't think I'm alone.


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    Feb 07, 2010 5:55 AM GMT
    You're not American. I dont care what you think about our political system.