Oprah - This Thursday - The High School Quarterback Who Became A Lesbian

  • metta

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    Feb 09, 2010 10:04 PM GMT



    http://www.oprah.com/showinfo/The-High-School-Quarterback-Who-Became-a-Lesbian
  • alwaysonpoint

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    Feb 10, 2010 2:05 AM GMT
    BEHEMOTH!
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    Feb 10, 2010 2:07 AM GMT
    This is gonna be EPIC!
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    Feb 10, 2010 2:11 AM GMT
    TheIStrat saidThis is gonna be EPIC!


    Indeed!
  • red_series

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    Feb 10, 2010 3:26 AM GMT
    hells yes!
  • jrs1

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    Feb 10, 2010 3:31 AM GMT

    she's pretty and has amazing biceps, triceps, and latissimus dorsi.
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    Feb 10, 2010 3:38 AM GMT
    I always asked myself if is possible if a man to turn himself into a female and still find them attractive?....So gonna watch it!!

    Ps...does this makes him straight or what?? Im confuzzles : O
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    Feb 10, 2010 3:44 AM GMT
    I've got the documentary, Prodigal Sons, in my wait list in NetFlix. More on the doc: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1295068/
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    Feb 10, 2010 3:52 AM GMT
    Well you know all my straight mates are lesbians, the only diffrence is this guy, just had himself made to look like one, other than that nothing has changed, it's still heterosexual.
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    Feb 10, 2010 3:56 AM GMT
    I remember meeting my first post operative transgendered lesbian couple during SF Pride about 10-12 years ago. I had a hard time wrapping my head around it initially. Then after hanging with them for a few hours, I just got it. Some people will say it's silly or stupid, but after meeting them, it all makes sense. I don't understand what combination of neurophysiology and/or psychosocial development got them to that point, but I do know that if they were trying to be anything other than lesbians who just happened to be born men, they wouldn't be their authentic selves.
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    Feb 10, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    IsmeIvan1990 said

    Ps...does this makes him straight or what?? Im confuzzles : O


    That's oftentimes the hardest thing to understand about transgendered persons. Your mind wants to label them in reference to their original physical birth gender. People will often wonder. "Okay, he was a guy, now he's woman and he's into guys, does that actually make him gay?" When I met my first MTFs (long before the MTF lesbian couple), I had similar questions, but as I got to know them, their gender identities really solidified in my mind and it became impossible to think of them as male in any context. Sometimes you can approach things with an open mind, but it takes a real life experience to truly "get it".
  • metta

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    Feb 10, 2010 4:22 AM GMT

    Transsexual film-maker Kimberly Reed wows America with Prodigal Sons

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/07/kimberly-reed-prodigal-sons-transsexual
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    Feb 10, 2010 4:34 AM GMT
    that takes courage.
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    Feb 10, 2010 6:37 AM GMT
    So you have a guy who grew up as an all american bloke, was a member of the boys club, and so on, and now he has decided to look like a women. Sorry I can understand why many women would not welcome this man into women only clubs, and so on. Because they have spent their whole life as women. Starting life as little girls, and being treated as one. To little women to young women. to adult women. It's just not the same.

    Just as it's not me being born a male, growing up as a little boy doing boys things, becoming a young man, and being a member of young men's clubs. To becoming a man. To some-one in their 20s or 30s haveing operations, and having injection to look and sound like a man; it's just not the same.

    I once cared for a guy with a mental illness who thought he was God, looked like God, dressed like God, and in his head he truly thought he was God. Should all churches hand over their funds to him? I don't think so.

    Don't get me wrong. if the person can afford to pay for this procedure, and fund a life of injections, fine by all means do it, medical science have the ability to create the illusion. So long as it's nut funded by taxes> have no issues, and if it does, then I certainly have a right to an opinion, coz I'm helping fund it.

    But I wish them no harm. I just don't think all doors should be open to them, as trans have clubs, where the door are not open to me.
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    Feb 10, 2010 6:39 AM GMT
    That's just nastyicon_mad.gif

    When is Oprah quitting????
  • metta

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    Feb 10, 2010 8:21 AM GMT
    djohn767 saidThat's just nastyicon_mad.gif

    When is Oprah quitting????


    A little more thought and understanding would have been nice before you posted. That kind of attitude is unacceptable, ignorant and dangerous to the point of being deadly.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/us/23oxnard.html
  • inmidair

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    Feb 10, 2010 8:26 AM GMT
    I saw Prodigal Sons last year when it played at the Frameline film festival here in SF. The story is powerful and complex and subtle; I'd highly recommend renting the documentary. At least from the ad, it looks like Oprah is going the early 1990s Ricki Lake "she used to be a he! isn't that shocking?" route.
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    Feb 10, 2010 10:45 AM GMT
    Thanks for posting that.


    GuerrillaSodomite said
    IsmeIvan1990 said

    Ps...does this makes him straight or what?? Im confuzzles : O


    That's oftentimes the hardest thing to understand about transgendered persons. Your mind wants to label them in reference to their original physical birth gender. People will often wonder. "Okay, he was a guy, now he's woman and he's into guys, does that actually make him gay?" When I met my first MTFs (long before the MTF lesbian couple), I had similar questions, but as I got to know them, their gender identities really solidified in my mind and it became impossible to think of them as male in any context. Sometimes you can approach things with an open mind, but it takes a real life experience to truly "get it".
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    Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM GMT
    Pattison saidSo you have a guy ...


    ... vomit, hate, ignorance, fear, vomit ...

    Pattison saidBut I wish them no harm. I just don't think all doors should be open to them ...


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    djohn767 saidThat's just nastyicon_mad.gif


    It's in our nature to fear what we don't understand, but you don't have to loathe it. Why not look at this from the p.o.v. of a gay man? I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who view what you do and who you are as being nasty.

    Your don't have to agree with it, but it wouldn't hurt to accept the fact that the world doesn't revolve around you.

    Free your mind. It makes life a lot easier, less stressful, and far more interesting.
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    Feb 10, 2010 11:38 AM GMT
    reppaT said
    Free your mind. It makes life a lot easier, less stressful, and far more interesting.


    amen.
  • jrs1

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    Feb 10, 2010 11:44 AM GMT
    MeOhMy said
    reppaT said
    Free your mind. It makes life a lot easier, less stressful, and far more interesting.
    amen.

    seconded.
  • jrs1

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    Feb 10, 2010 11:45 AM GMT
    djohn767 saidThat's just nasty
    When is Oprah quitting????

    I'm quitting ... ?
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    Feb 10, 2010 12:40 PM GMT
    jrs1 said
    djohn767 saidThat's just nasty
    When is Oprah quitting????

    I'm quitting ... ?


    I knew there was a reason why I loved you. I couldn't put my finger on it, but it makes sense.

    Your performance in one of the best movies of all time changed my outlook on many things.

    3:20: "I was feeling real down, I was feeling mighty bad."

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    Feb 10, 2010 4:01 PM GMT
    That's crizazy. I guess she's a lesbian and not straight? Color me confused.