Should we recreate a Neanderthal person?

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    Feb 11, 2010 11:44 PM GMT
    "Researchers are closer than ever to having a first draft of a complete sequence of the genome of a Neanderthal woman who lived some 30,000 years ago, and this means it may one day be possible to create a living person from the DNA sequence."

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    Feb 12, 2010 4:06 AM GMT
    This is a really interesting question.

    I think that the potential benefits of such an endeavor would definitely outweigh the moral implications, but I can definitely see how many people, especially religious people, would strongly oppose this.
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    Feb 12, 2010 4:08 AM GMT
    WyoLifter saidThis is a really interesting question.

    I think that the potential benefits of such an endeavor would definitely outweigh the moral implications, but I can definitely see how many people, especially religious people, would strongly oppose this.

    Religious people are Neanderthals. Hmmm...that's would probably be insulting to Neanderthals. Dont tell the new one. ... icon_lol.gif

    I think it would be neat. They had bigger brains than we do.

    Scientists are working on reverse genetic-engineering dinosaurs from birds. That will be cool, too.

    Hope they do it before I die.
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    Feb 12, 2010 4:27 AM GMT
    the dino reverse engineering, though, isn't from sequencing the genome; it is using the existing genome of birds like rheas, emus, etc. and tweaking the developmental stages of the epigene to create proteins already encoded but not currently expressed in the dna.

    the original post in this thread, however, seems to indicate the possibility of building a neanderthal from scratch. (then again, we don't have any complete dinosaur dna to work with.)

    i think it would be interesting, though, to see how neanderthal thought processes worked/work, and to use physically available dna from a humanoid species so closely related to our own might at least force some of the i.d./creationist folk to reconsider the idea that there is no proof whatsoever of evolution (arguments i hear all the time from people who have, you know, all sorts of indisputable physical evidence of god... pictures of god at burger king with elvis, video footage of god swimming in loch ness...). here we have a cousin on the divergent tree of human lineage, complete with dna, available for the recreation.
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    Feb 12, 2010 4:38 AM GMT
    It's a scientific goldmine, no doubt, but there are many moral implications. He would grow, think, feel, learn like a 21st century human, even though he wouldn't be (technically). I wouldn't want to grow up knowing I was a petri-dish fertilized, grown-for-science, parentless (biologically, not surrogate) experiment...
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    Feb 12, 2010 4:49 AM GMT
    Draoiocht saidIt's a scientific goldmine, no doubt, but there are many moral implications. He would grow, think, feel, learn like a 21st century human, even though he wouldn't be (technically). I wouldn't want to grow up knowing I was a petri-dish fertilized, grown-for-science, parentless (biologically, not surrogate) experiment...

    Then we wont tell him. ... He'll never know. ... icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 12, 2010 5:39 AM GMT
    Caslon13000 said
    Draoiocht saidIt's a scientific goldmine, no doubt, but there are many moral implications. He would grow, think, feel, learn like a 21st century human, even though he wouldn't be (technically). I wouldn't want to grow up knowing I was a petri-dish fertilized, grown-for-science, parentless (biologically, not surrogate) experiment...

    Then we wont tell him. ... He'll never know. ... icon_biggrin.gif


    The Truman Show! Only with neanderthals >.>
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    Feb 12, 2010 5:40 AM GMT
    I thought we already did! The George Bush Republicansicon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 12, 2010 6:11 AM GMT
    Wouldn't that be interesting? Another human species or subspecies. Not that a Neandrathal would be sub anything but a different species of human? And a species with a larger brain, potentially? It brings so many questions to mind. They died off due to physical adaptions, supposedly. But with the modern world, those would not matter much. We have ways now of adapting to cold or hot, food supplies, ect. I just think it would be fascinating. If raised in modern times, what would a Neandrathal person be? Fascinating. I would love to see it.
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    Feb 12, 2010 6:17 AM GMT
    They're walking among us. I've even dated a few.
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    Feb 12, 2010 7:12 AM GMT
    If asked if I wanted to bring a new minority to this world to be hated, exploited and enslaved, I say no thanks.
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    Feb 12, 2010 7:45 AM GMT
    Buffhunk64 saidShould we recreate a Neanderthal person?

    Judging from some of the steroid guys on here I thought we already had.


    that was going to be my post. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 12, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
    Not to ruin the fun, but wouldn't creating a human being for novelty's sake be a little cruel?
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    Feb 12, 2010 11:49 AM GMT
    In the words of Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park icon_cool.gif

    Just because you can doesn't mean that you should
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    Feb 12, 2010 11:58 AM GMT
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    Feb 12, 2010 12:46 PM GMT
    I thought GEICO did this already.
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    No, I am in agreement with GQJock... nature already selected Neanderthal Man for evolution and his time has passed.
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    Feb 12, 2010 1:37 PM GMT
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    Feb 12, 2010 2:42 PM GMT
    We can't prevent this. It will happen at some point. Science moves forward, and I'd like to live to see it.

    The moral and ethical questions are valid. But if it's agreed that this reconstituted Neanderthal will be granted all the legal rights of a modern human then I am more comfortable with it.

    Still, will his or her life be fairly normal, or confined like a monkey to the laboratory? Study is one thing, but imprisonment another. And then, will this individual be allowed to breed? And with whom? Another recreated Neanderthal? Or with a modern human, if that can happen? There are theories that the real Neanderthals did just that tens of thousands of years ago, and from what I sometimes see around me today, it isn't hard to believe. icon_confused.gif
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    Feb 12, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
    I think it'd be pretty neat.
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    Feb 12, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
    it depends, are these neanderthals gonna be homo erotic?

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  • GQjock

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    Feb 12, 2010 8:17 PM GMT
    But seriously ...... if we've already coded the genome
    it's really not a far step to eventually go on to implant a nucleus with that code and place that nucleus into a embryonic cell

    and implant it into a surrogate

    But for what purpose?
    How would this lone Neanderthal be cared for and raised?
    It's not human
    It has requirements both physically and mentally that we would not be prepared for and what quality of life would this thinking person really have

    It would be a sad day if this was ever done
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    Feb 12, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    As a biologist there are many insightful comments I could make to deepen the conversation and contribute intelligently, instead I think I'll say this:

    I think we should create tons of them and enslave their species... I've always wanted a servant.
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    Feb 12, 2010 9:10 PM GMT
    JoeB1986 saidAs a biologist there are many insightful comments I could make to deepen the conversation and contribute intelligently, instead I think I'll say this:

    I think we should create tons of them and enslave their species... I've always wanted a servant.

    Oh yes, please dont make any of your insightful comments. Post that instead. ... icon_rolleyes.gif ... USH.
  • Delivis

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    Feb 12, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
    I would be all for it.