Some Scary Crap .... The Enemy Within

  • GQjock

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    Feb 16, 2010 11:02 PM GMT
    We're so worried about guys lighting matches on their shoes and exploding Al Queda under wear when right here in the US there's a powder keg of ignorance growing and it's taking the form of mindless violence
    Something we haven't seen before since Timothy McVey
    and the Branch Dividians

    Take a look at what some of these Tea Crack Pots are saying and doing
    It's some scary scary sh*t icon_neutral.gif

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/us/politics/16teaparty.html?hpw
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:19 AM GMT
    i see scarrry white people
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:22 AM GMT
    lol!
  • bchbum

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    Feb 17, 2010 1:37 AM GMT
    I read this article this morning as well. Pretty scary. Especially the guy who said if the 2010 elections don't turn out the way he wants them to, he'll take maters into his own hands. (I am paraphrasing).
  • dannyboy1101

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    Feb 17, 2010 1:45 AM GMT
    Glen Beck supporters and libertarians together? I'm confused!
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:49 AM GMT
    I had this conversation over the weekend with my boyfriend. He thinkgs that gay people need to be scared when we get equality before the law, esp when it comes to marriage. He thinks people will lose their shit and you will see bombings at gay clubs/pride parades.
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
    How is this scary??? Hard working Americans are out standing up for what they believe in. I have been to several Tea Party events and its a growing revolt in this country. All people want to do is keep their hard earned money. What is so wrong with that?? I will also say that the state of Rhode Island has taxed me right out of the state. I will be moving in 3 weeks to Pennsylvania and cant wait to get out of here.

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    Feb 17, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
    I'm reminded of the South Park episode where the AARP becomes a revolutionary militia.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:02 AM GMT
    I completely agree. To be honest, it is no laughing matter. These Tea Bagger jerk-offs are frickin' looney tunes. It's just a matter of time. They are inciting civil unrest with their ignorance and hateful intolerant bigotryicon_evil.gif

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    Feb 17, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    Scary but on to something.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    djohn767 saidI completely agree. To be honest, it is no laughing matter. These Tea Bagger jerk-offs are frickin' looney tunes. It's just a matter of time. They are inciting civil unrest with their ignorance and hateful intolerant bigotryicon_evil.gif


    Well, any large group will have it's looney elements... but at the core, I feel their message of smaller, less obtrusive government, REAL fiscal responsibility and, for the most part, throwing out all the current members of Congress, is a great idea.


    Oh please.

    Every browse tea party forums?

    They can't avoid name calling and bickering. Most of it is baggage taken from the bad apples of the republican party. Blame liberals. Blame gays. Blame democrats. Blame minorities. Blame anyone who isn't at least middle class white christian.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:26 AM GMT
    again your talking about a few within the movement. The only people I blame are two failed presidents and a congress who wastes our hard earned money bailing out corporations. I am as frustrated with taxes as I am with my rights as a gay guy.


    ATC84 said
    southbeach1500 said
    djohn767 saidI completely agree. To be honest, it is no laughing matter. These Tea Bagger jerk-offs are frickin' looney tunes. It's just a matter of time. They are inciting civil unrest with their ignorance and hateful intolerant bigotryicon_evil.gif


    Well, any large group will have it's looney elements... but at the core, I feel their message of smaller, less obtrusive government, REAL fiscal responsibility and, for the most part, throwing out all the current members of Congress, is a great idea.


    Oh please.

    Every browse tea party forums?

    They can't avoid name calling and bickering. Most of it is baggage taken from the bad apples of the republican party. Blame liberals. Blame gays. Blame democrats. Blame minorities. Blame anyone who isn't at least middle class white christian.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:32 AM GMT
    I read this today and nearly posted the same article. They are very scary, primarily because they are angry, unemployed and politically uneducated. Politics aside, this is the sociological recipe for violence.

    And it's not a few bad apples in a larger movement. The primary point of the piece is that there is no "movement' per se. Even Ann Coulter said as much over the weekend. There are essentially no different than Al Qaeda cells, decentralized nuts taking their orders from Glenn Beck, who should be medicated in a small room someplace.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    ZACK3939 saidagain your talking about a few within the movement. The only people I blame are two failed presidents and a congress who wastes our hard earned money bailing out corporations. I am as frustrated with taxes as I am with my rights as a gay guy.


    I don't find fault with the concept of the tea party movement. A citizen run organization that tries to spread awareness and recommend candidates to vote for.

    Check out tea party patriots. They promote candidates across the country who live up to smaller government, less taxes ideals. They are also all republican candidates. And you wonder why gays might be hostile to the tea party movement.
  • DanBasil

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    Feb 17, 2010 2:39 AM GMT
    Revolution is a natural part of civilization, we must be ready and armed, just in case crack-pots decide they know better and plan to use force to "enforce" their ideas
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:41 AM GMT
    republicans tend to be the candidates who back tax cuts so yes they are more involved with the tea party movement. I go to meetings often and let me tell you this is not a partison event. I didn't know what to expect before my first meeting. I thought it was going to be a bunch of religous freaks, as I am not a "believer" and wouldn't fit in. It was the exact opposite. There are Dems, Republicans and Independents at these events and they are angry. There has been much talk at these meetings about starting a third party, but we only have two major parties in this country so the Republican Party has to be used for tea party candidates.


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    ZACK3939 saidagain your talking about a few within the movement. The only people I blame are two failed presidents and a congress who wastes our hard earned money bailing out corporations. I am as frustrated with taxes as I am with my rights as a gay guy.


    I don't find fault with the concept of the tea party movement. A citizen run organization that tries to spread awareness and recommend candidates to vote for.

    Check out tea party patriots. They promote candidates across the country who live up to smaller government, less taxes ideals. They are also all republican candidates. And you wonder why gays might be hostile to the tea party movement.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:54 AM GMT
    I don't know why so many gay people want big government???

    I am gay and I want as little government as possible. That includes legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption to abortion rights to low taxes and less spending to freedom to bear arms.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:58 AM GMT
    I think the tea-party is a bunch of nut-bags predominantly. The one specifically mentioned seem to be obsessed with guns and a powerless federal government (as if that has ever been a good thing).

    "State Rights" have been a euphemism for segregationists, deniers of civil rights, xenophobes, bigots, and slavery supporters .. NO THANKS .. this is the UNITED States of America. The states have plenty of rights, but without a strong central government the U.S. would have been over long ago.
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:27 AM GMT
    ZACK3939 saidI don't know why so many gay people want big government???

    I am gay and I want as little government as possible. That includes legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption to abortion rights to low taxes and less spending to freedom to bear arms.


    I don't know Zack. Why do you change usernames twice a week? icon_rolleyes.gif

    And you can't ally yourself with a bunch of anti-gay, anti-abortion wing nuts and expect to get your rights. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:33 AM GMT
    the anti gay anti abortion wing nuts are just a small group in the coalition. I'm an Independent who doesn't even believe in God but I feel much more a home with the Republicans than I do the Democrats. At least some Republicans are fighting for lower taxes so I can keep some more of my hard earned money.



    Christian73 said
    ZACK3939 saidI don't know why so many gay people want big government???

    I am gay and I want as little government as possible. That includes legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption to abortion rights to low taxes and less spending to freedom to bear arms.


    I don't know Zack. Why do you change usernames twice a week? icon_rolleyes.gif

    And you can't ally yourself with a bunch of anti-gay, anti-abortion wing nuts and expect to get your rights. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidThere are essentially no different than Al Qaeda cells, decentralized nuts taking their orders from Glenn Beck, who should be medicated in a small room someplace.

    What is so "nutty" about smaller, less obtrusive government, REAL fiscal responsibility and, for the most part, throwing out all the current members of Congress?


    Because that's not really what they're for. Do you think Glenn Beck really gives a flying shit about state's rights or fiscal responsibility? He's a corporate hack for Rupert Murdoch.

    And, if you actually read the article, you'd see that militia folk, white supremacists, and other very fringe groups are allying themselves with the "tea baggers". I'm thinking this is going to end up like Oklahoma City or the Branch Davidians or both.

    And you can't keep waving the Constitution unless you actually understand it and what the founders intended. They certainly did not intend for corporations to buy and lease members of Congress and they would have laughed the Roberts' Court into Canada.
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:35 AM GMT
    ZACK3939 saidthe anti gay anti abortion wing nuts are just a small group in the coalition. I'm an Independent who doesn't even believe in God but I feel much more a home with the Republicans than I do the Democrats. At least some Republicans are fighting for lower taxes so I can keep some more of my hard earned money.



    Christian73 said
    ZACK3939 saidI don't know why so many gay people want big government???

    I am gay and I want as little government as possible. That includes legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption to abortion rights to low taxes and less spending to freedom to bear arms.


    I don't know Zack. Why do you change usernames twice a week? icon_rolleyes.gif

    And you can't ally yourself with a bunch of anti-gay, anti-abortion wing nuts and expect to get your rights. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Zack - Do you understand that the Bush tax cuts are the principal cause of the deficits? Do you understand that forty years of tax cuts for the wealthy have led to the US infrastructure collapsing? To poverty that hasn't been seen in this country 80 years? And do you further understand that even if the Bush tax cuts expire, the tax rate for the wealthiest Americans will still be lower than it was under Ronald Reagan? That unless you earn $250,000 a year or more, you have received a tax cut under Obama? And if you do earn more than that, pay your fair share and shut the fuck up.
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    ActiveAndFit saidwithout a strong central government the U.S. would have been over long ago.

    When was the last time you read the U.S. Constitution? It is a document that provides for a limited Federal government.


    Indeed and so it does. But the problem isn't with elected officials, it's with the electorate. When everyone is demanding that the government "...do something about this..." the government will simply grow. And as long as people are more interested in the insipid goings-on of dreck like Dancing with the Stars than with the goings-on of their government, things will continue down this path.

    The "tea party" movement, which I feel compelled to point out is a media title, and is not the name of a functioning, organized political party, poses many good points. But in the end, no-one will be willing to make the sacrifices that drastic reduction of the government will call for, such as an abolishment of Medicare, Social Security, the public school system, various flavors of public assistance, unemployment insurance, and military spending, to name a few.

    So in the end, no matter where this party goes, the politicians will continue to give with one hand and slap with the other as our leaders have since the dawn of civilization and more than likely even before.
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:41 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    ActiveAndFit saidwithout a strong central government the U.S. would have been over long ago.

    When was the last time you read the U.S. Constitution? It is a document that provides for a limited Federal government.
    Spoken like a true tea bagger .. nonsensical and nutty. I suppose you think we should still be a collection of divided colonies .. King George would have loved you.

    The constitution was built to be amended and changed to adapt with the times. I am sorry you long for the good old days of slavery or segregation or any of the other "state rights" that violate the spirit of the constitution .. I say good riddance to overreaching "state rights" .. maybe you should grab some guns and join the tea bagger rebellion.
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:41 AM GMT
    The Democrats have done so much for this country, thats why they are set to get slaughtered this fall. And Ronald Reagan brought us good times through his tax cuts. They encouraged investment and businesses to hire more people. I wish we could get another Ronald Reagan in the White House. Obama has scared the hell out of businesses with threatening tax cuts and regulations which have discouraged businesses from hiring more people.



    Christian73 said
    ZACK3939 saidthe anti gay anti abortion wing nuts are just a small group in the coalition. I'm an Independent who doesn't even believe in God but I feel much more a home with the Republicans than I do the Democrats. At least some Republicans are fighting for lower taxes so I can keep some more of my hard earned money.



    Christian73 said
    ZACK3939 saidI don't know why so many gay people want big government???

    I am gay and I want as little government as possible. That includes legalization of gay marriage and gay adoption to abortion rights to low taxes and less spending to freedom to bear arms.


    I don't know Zack. Why do you change usernames twice a week? icon_rolleyes.gif

    And you can't ally yourself with a bunch of anti-gay, anti-abortion wing nuts and expect to get your rights. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Zack - Do you understand that the Bush tax cuts are the principal cause of the deficits? Do you understand that forty years of tax cuts for the wealthy have led to the US infrastructure collapsing? To poverty that hasn't been seen in this country 80 years? And do you further understand that even if the Bush tax cuts expire, the tax rate for the wealthiest Americans will still be lower than it was under Ronald Reagan? That unless you earn $250,000 a year or more, you have received a tax cut under Obama? And if you do earn more than that, pay your fair share and shut the fuck up.