I'm not going to comment on this

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    Feb 17, 2010 4:30 AM GMT
    because I want to see what everyone's initial reactions are without stating my own opinion.


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    Feb 17, 2010 4:58 AM GMT
    Lesson of the day..
    Don't start shit with total strangers. Cuz there's always someone out there that's meaner, angrier, stronger, and crazier than you.

    EDIT:
    I read on a different forum that the video was posted on 4chan and they already identified the dude and the chick videotaping. Those two fools snatched the old man's bag and hat, after all. I'm sure the cops would like to speak to the guy for assault, and the chick for theft.
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    Feb 17, 2010 5:08 AM GMT
    can someone explain to me what the hell just happened and how that all started?

    why did the fight break out? I watched it twice but I can't make out what they are saying very clearly at the start
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    Feb 17, 2010 5:19 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidcan someone explain to me what the hell just happened and how that all started?

    why did the fight break out? I watched it twice but I can't make out what they are saying very clearly at the start


    From what I can gather, the old white man thought the black fellow offered to shine his shoes (I think). The white guy asked how much for a spit shine. Black guy said "Why does a brother have to spit shine your shoes?" thinking that he was being asked solely because of his race. White guy said he offered and starts to get pissed. Black guy gets pissed back. Old white guy cracks him upside the head.

    Who would have thought someone that age (67) and with that crazy of a beard (I don't care what race you are) could throw that many punches, that hard, and that fast?
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    Feb 17, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
    Melos said
    lilTanker saidcan someone explain to me what the hell just happened and how that all started?

    why did the fight break out? I watched it twice but I can't make out what they are saying very clearly at the start


    From what I can gather, the old white man thought the black fellow offered to shine his shoes (I think). The white guy asked how much for a spit shine. Black guy said "Why does a brother have to spit shine your shoes?" thinking that he was being asked solely because of his race. White guy said he offered and starts to get pissed. Black guy gets pissed back. Old white guy cracks him upside the head.

    Who would have thought someone that age (67) and with that crazy of a beard (I don't care what race you are) could throw that many punches, that hard, and that fast?


    Apparently he didn'ticon_biggrin.gif Good for you old white guy!
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    Feb 17, 2010 7:58 AM GMT
    Of course it had to happen in the East Bay.... can't everyone just get along? Yes I know, wishful thinking icon_rolleyes.gif
    They both should have just shut their mouths if you ask me
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:29 PM GMT
    I can't believe this kind of crap still goes on in my country today.... can't fucking believe it!
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:35 PM GMT
    DAYUM! He got knocked the FUCK out!
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:45 PM GMT
    I have to give it to the old man. He moved away from the angry dude. The angry guy pursued the guy up to the front of the bus. What happened after that is consensus-approved RJ behavior for handling a situation, just they didnt have a garden hose.
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    Feb 17, 2010 1:48 PM GMT
    I certainly would have left from that bus with an "uplifting" feeling after all that.

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    Feb 17, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
    Simple case of one man trying to defend his pride against a self-built old man.

    step 1: Old man misinterprets what the other younger guy says, a common mistake that happens with a clashing of the times and language.. "what you want? for me to shine your shoes?" ... and so the old man took it as "he's offering to shine my shoes? what?"

    step 2: younger guy immediately takes it to a black vs. white scenario.... because obviously the old man cares about white on black hatred...

    step 3: younger guy threatens the white guy.... etc. etc. ... and the old man decides that he's just going to avoid the situation, also while saying that the young guy's not going to do anything and that he's not afraid.

    STEP 4 (IMPORTANT): as the young guy heads to the front of the bus, you can hear the old guy state that he "Not afraid of you. You're not gonna do anything to me. I'm ex military" .... a 67-year old man who survived Vietnam? and appears to be healthy? .... and the other guy was what? 15 did he say? ... that's a disaster in progress.

    Step 5: the young guy assaults the older guy by hitting him in his chest/neck area..... which leads to immediate retaliation from someone who's programmed to defend themselves and has survived a vicious war only to come back to this? even after a misunderstanding due to a language barrier....

    Lesson:
    If you're ignorant and full of pride, keep your fucking mouth closed. It will only do either of two things for you: 1) Lead to you hurting others or 2) Lead to you getting the shit stomped out of you by someone who is not willing to put up with something as foolish as pride.


    My opinion:
    I feel for the old guy. I was put in his situation recently.... and you know, I'm glad there are people who respond the way he did. How else will these ignorant people learn not to bark so loud?
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:30 PM GMT
    I appreciate the synopsis Kaicho. But as we are dealing people on public transport it is unreasonable to assume anyone is a rational actor icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:32 PM GMT
    Who said anything about acting?
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:43 PM GMT
    He who throws first punch gets blame. The old man had the sense to walk away, the younger man didn't have the self-control or good sense to let it go.
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    Feb 17, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
    hellz yeah shit went down!

    respect yo elders child icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
    The young guy got served his can of whoop ass! He thought because he was young he could intimidate the old man.

    Don't go knocking on trouble's door if you don't want it to answer.
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    This thing happened on my bus yesterday! Two young black men arguing over something stupid, then they decide to fight once they got to a bus stop. When they got off, it was ON... they were biting and scratching and smacking like two drag queens fighting over the last can of hair spray...
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:27 PM GMT
    HAHAHAHAHA "no I'm not aright, call the uh, amblance, get the amblance"

    Kid got what he deserved lol icon_twisted.gif
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    Feb 17, 2010 3:29 PM GMT
    No matter what the age, some kids never grow up.
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    Feb 17, 2010 6:55 PM GMT
    This is exactly why I drive or ride my bike.
    The general public is not a body of individuals I care to spend too much time with... their nuts... or peculiar shaped, tumor ridden balls if they were in the other forum thread.
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    Feb 17, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    Haha, that was just a simple misunderstanding between two old fools that got way out of hand. If anybody was prejudice in the video, it's the woman in the background that yelled, "Beat his white ass!"

    PS- anyone else find it hilarious that the video ends focused on the bench that says, "Keep our city CLEAN and SAFE" ? hahaahaaaaa
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    Feb 17, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    In my neighborhood, a fight like that on a city bus can easily end up with a gun in one guy's hand and a bullet in the other guy's head. It happens. I don't take the bus. But even when I have to get on the subway, I bring earphones and/or grab something to read and ignore everything around me.

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    Feb 17, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    Well wasn't that pretty.

    I echo the sentiment above. That's exactly why I drive to work.
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    Feb 17, 2010 7:22 PM GMT
    Old white guy had a chip on his shoulder, maybe your typical angry white male. He MAY have misuderstood what the Black dude said, but should have apologized once it was clarifid and kept his mouth shut. Black guy should have let it go too.
    I'm going to be 67 soon and I don't have much anger left.
    Amazes me that somebody had a vid cam or phone with video and recorded it! Picking up my camera would not have been my reaction!
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    Feb 17, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
    I know American English is supposed to be slightly different, at least in writing, but I didn't understand any of that.