Big Fish Don't Cry?

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    Jan 16, 2008 4:26 PM GMT
    So I know this is a topic which has the potential to smash all previous reply records but...

    Has anyone any conclusive information as to whether fish feel pain? I'm a reluctant pescatarian as do I love meat but I have heard that fish do not have the celebral capacity or a central nervous system which feels pain. This lessens the guilt of going out and harpooning a tuna.

    There are so many contradictions out there, I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any impartial knowledge on the matter.

    If I get two good replies to this I'll die a happy man.

    Thanks.
  • Artesin

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    Jan 16, 2008 5:27 PM GMT
    I dont think they do, most of their nervous system is made up of membrames. On the other hand it has been proven that spiders, crabs and lobsters have the same type of nervous systems as humans.
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    Jan 16, 2008 5:33 PM GMT
    Spiders!

    Damn, that completely ruins my Renfield Diet.
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    Jan 16, 2008 5:38 PM GMT
    That's two - I'm happy.
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    Jan 16, 2008 5:59 PM GMT
    Google "do fish feel pain" and the first article you get is Fish do Feel Pain - Scientists Say.
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    Jan 16, 2008 6:38 PM GMT
    Let's ask a cat.

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    Jan 16, 2008 6:42 PM GMT
    Ew. Spiders. I'm still gonna smoosh them...and with a broomstick, so I don't have to get near them. Ew. Ew. Ew.
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    Jan 16, 2008 7:00 PM GMT
    OK, this is awful.

    I do genetics research on fish. We put them to sleep with clove oil before we kill them, but one time it didn't work and it was terrible to watch. The fisheries manager once again referred to me as gay somehow because I couldn't stand seeing it.

    If they don't "feel" pain, they certainly react to the stimuli. I just don't know when a autonomic response can be considered a "feeling."
  • USMCjock

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    Jan 17, 2008 6:34 AM GMT
    I am an avowed Catch and Release Fly Fisherman- my father wrote many magazine articles on it, and a whole book on his favorite place to fish in Sun Valley, ID- where his ashes are scattered. We always use barbless hooks, so removal of the fly doesn't tear apart any flesh. Fish respond to the pressure, and are obviously aware they are 'hooked'. In humans, we have what are called "Pressure Point Control Techniques" (PPCT) that we Marines practice on each other. It's pressure, but pain, and you instictively yield to it. Fish feel the pressure, but I would agree that they lack the self-preservative requirements to sense pain (synonymous with danger)... either the Grizzly bear caught them and ate them, or he didnt... fish don't have hot stoves to touch and learn about. My vote is they have nerves, obviously, but pain is a delicious mind trick that we humans love to hate, and hate to love. As for FEAR..... well, thats another thread...
    Bon Appetit! PS- I could LIVE on seafood alone! Guilt free!
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    Jan 17, 2008 7:59 AM GMT
    If they screamed like human babies when hurt and talked like a Disney cartoon fish begging to be taken to the ER - they would still be food.

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    Jan 17, 2008 8:44 AM GMT
    zdrew78 saidEw. Spiders. I'm still gonna smoosh them...and with a broomstick, so I don't have to get near them. Ew. Ew. Ew.

    Oh I am sooo with you on that sentiment! icon_eek.gif
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    Jan 17, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    Not big on fish, so either way...
    as for spider, i don't like killing them, but i don't like them looking at me with all those beady eyes either!