Down but not out

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    Feb 20, 2010 4:50 PM GMT
    So, I used to be a regular and very interested contributor for this site's forums. It made my day to read and contribute.

    But then, without notice, I went into a lull. Not only here, but in my work, my personal life and everything around me.

    After a month or so of this, my partner urged me to see my doctor (which I really really hate). My doctor took some tests, and sent me to a psych. After a long time of to-and-fro, I was "diagnosed" with bipolar disorder.

    I have never been violent, or had violent thoughts to others or myself, and I have never been anything other than a good, hard working person. But somehow, I fell into depression.

    I was given a whole pad of prescriptions to take to the chemist, to fill me up with Xanax, valproate or lithium or whatever.
    I never filled any script - although I was offered a lot of money from other people to buy them off me LOL!

    Anyway, I have come through with few scars, and even after an eight month lay-off from my gym, I have just started back and am feeling a whole heap better. My body has gone to seed, but I think I can fix that.

    My mind has become clearer, and my depression is abated. To be honest, I think I was severely misdiagnosed. I went through a rough patch, but I wasn't suicidal or anything that serious.
    Yet my professional healthcare workers were ready to medicate me out of my brain.

    I would like to rejoin the RJ club, and hope maybe you guys have some advice or some experiences to share.
    If not, well hello to new friends then icon_smile.gif
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    Feb 20, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
    Just talking can sometimes be the best medicine. I often recommend a psychologist over a psychiatrist because they talk back to you and often guide you, whereas a psychiatrist tends to use psychopharmaceuticals and give less feedback.

    Lol, ask a psychiatrist a question and they're more likely to say , "What do YOU think?" rather than give a direct answer.

    -Doug of meninlove

    PS welcome back!
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    Feb 20, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    Welcome back and congrats for coming through this by yourself. Seems like you were misdiagnosed and did the right thing not to take the meds.

    If you know what you did to get out of that depression, write it down somewhere so you have that info, if (!) your problems ever come back. Otherwise enjoy your life, get back into shape and stay vigilant, so another depression will not throw you off-course for another 8 months. Should there be a next time, go see other doctors.
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    Feb 20, 2010 5:46 PM GMT
    Hello how are you doing?

    Getting back into exercise can help you a lot. I reccomend baby steps. Just getting out and steping foot into the gym is good. Try 15 minutes of exercise and do whatever feels good. No need to follow a strict routine. The gradually work up to half an hour or more. Physical exertion outside the gym is good too. Hiking, running etc.

    These are the times to rely on your friends and family who love you. Don't feel bad about leaning on them. That's why they love you. Don't expect them to have answers to all your questions. The point is for you to vent and get things out of your system. If you don't have anyone, well.........welcome to RJ!

    Precriptions and medicines can be tricky and often are overprescribed, But maybe you need to face up to what you have and you can try one or two of them. They are designed to correct the chemical imbalances in your brain and they could help you.

    Regular everyday things, like cleaning your home and and eating well can help you establish control and give you more self confidence and structure and less confusion.

    Keep at it. Hopefully you will gradualy get better and be pleasantly surprised to discover that under all that weight of mental problems, you are an inteligent, creative and happy person.

    Good luck.



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    Feb 20, 2010 6:02 PM GMT
    Glad to have you back.
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    Feb 20, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
    Welcome Back among the living and posting!
    Depression is very REAL and can HURT very badly, physically and mentally, socially, spiritually, etc and it is a chemical imbalance and a real medical issue with medical treatments. There is no more Embarrassmen to a depression than there is to having a broken arm or diabetes.... and you are being treated! Keep on top of it and stay with us please....WELCOME BACK and GET WELL!icon_cool.gif
  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 20, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    Welcome back Cronker, glad to see you back and I hope with some appreciation for yourself.. you deserve it. Hopefully RJ can serve as a
    positive reinforcement in your life. Glad you hear you bypassed the drugs.

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    Feb 20, 2010 6:57 PM GMT
    as someone who shares your diagnosis (bipolar disorder ii - i always joke it's the sequel, "son of bipolar" or "the return of bipolar"), i would ask you whether or not you experience this on a recurring basis? if it was just a rough patch, then i would agree you were misdiagnosed. bipolar disorder comes and goes in its severity, but the symptoms (even when very subtle) are almost always there, threatening to haul you in one direction or another.

    i would also agree that the meds are worse than the disorder. the two that gave me particular trouble: xyprexa and serzone. i hated those. they made it worse, not better. i'm at a loss to understand why you would prescribe medication that has suicide as a known side effect to someone already unstable?

    at any rate i managed my own bipolar tendencies (after going off the meds) with yoga, exercise, writing, art, and rants in the country side (where i could hear, alone i hope, my voice ringing off the mountains and out into the void). i am not suggesting that people self-medicate or make the decisions i did, because each case is different; however, i do wish western medicine would open up a bit more to possibilities that don't include pills and surgery as the first line of treatment.
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    Feb 20, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    Without seeing you it would be difficult, if not irresponsible of me to diagnose you. However you mentioned you were seen by your physician, who then referred you to a specialist. You mentioned that after some time the specialist found a bi-polar condition exists with you, and prescribed medication. Again, I don't know you, but I care and am concerned that you are going AMA (against medical advice) when you decided not to take the medication prescribed for you. Bi-polar disorder is a serious condition - and yes there are times a patient will feel 'just fine' without the medication, and decide they don't need or want it. Things may go along fine for awhile, and a patient may feel they were correct in going off their medications. The major concern I have is that sooner or later you may experience a major downturn in your depression - and many times this has led to immense problems up to and including suicide. Not to alarm you unnecessarily, but please see your doctor - or a new one if you are somehow uncomfortable with whomever is presently following your case. Bi-polar disorder is something you may or may not have - but wouldn't it be best to find out what truly caused your problems as you described them, and to treat whatever it is you actually have?
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    Feb 20, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    A hearty WELCOME BACK to you Cronker. I am at once disheartened and glad about your post. On the won hand, I know from personal experience that when something is not right, it can be the most frustraiting thing in the world not to be able to name it and deal with it. That has always been a thorn in my side-My needing to know. The good news is that it doesn't last. At some point, as our illustious real jock educator SQUAREJAW has titled his blog, you find yourself WAKING UP NOW from it. Sometimes there is a reason and sometimes there isn't. You are just glad that you are not in that awful funk anymore. Kudos to your partner for sending you to the doc. Although it sounds like the doc was off the mark on this one and you had the good sense not to go on the multitude of meds, you sound like you are deifinately on the road to a better you and isn't that really the goal of the journey? To be a better you?

    You know yourself better than anyone else, but I encourage you to talk about it. That, as the sage MENINLOVE said, can be the best medicine of all. Reach out to us when you are feeling down. If we can't be here for each other, then what is the point really? Take care and know that you are thought of fondly and that you are loved.

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    Feb 20, 2010 7:38 PM GMT
    Welcome back, and I'm sure you may will give many of the left wingers from here some-one from Oz, they may be able to relate too.

    Well they may of gotten the diagnosis wrong, it would not be the first time. You may well of had a UTI at the time of testing, or something like that.

    But if they are right you will have your ups and downs, extreme depression, to extreme highs, and moments of feeling well too. But if you are Bi polar, medicines will help to stabilise you mate; they are not the enemy. But sadly many people with things like bi polar have trouble with taking medications, and during this time they suffer.

    Not saying you are bi polar, just take care of yourself, and welcome back.

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    Feb 20, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
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    Feb 20, 2010 7:48 PM GMT
    Very proud for you... welcome back.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 20, 2010 8:58 PM GMT
    Strong, independent guys usually can handle whatever life throws at them.
    That's how I have always thought of myself.
    But, several of life's challenges have gotten to me.
    I started seeing a psychiatrist, because I had given up.
    He prescribed Lexapro, which gave me major nausea, so I'm off that.
    Now, he's just trying to get me to leave the house, every day, and interact with society, when all I want to do is hide.

    To the OP, welcome back.
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    Feb 20, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    WB!
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    Feb 20, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
    I'll take the Xanax...I have trouble sleeping

    Glad to hear you're doing bettericon_biggrin.gif