historical help needed

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    Feb 21, 2010 11:09 PM GMT
    Ok, this is going to sound a little odd out of context, but I need some help before later this evening if possible.

    Does anyone have any information about the charge of heresy as it applied before the Reformation Parliament in England of 1529?

    I know that Thomas More had already burned approximately 6 people before the start of Parliament at the time and that his means for doing so weren't very legitimate, since he used Star Court to get his convictions. But, I mainly need to know about the procedures followed by the ecclesiastical courts to bring about the charge of heresy and what constitutes evidence at this point in time.

    Also, if anyone has any good sources, that would be greatly appreciated.
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    Feb 22, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    archangel7542 said Thomas More had already burned approximately 6 people before the start of Parliament at the time and that his means for doing so weren't very legitimate, since he used Star Court to get his convictions. .

    Heresy charges were heard in the ecclesiastical courts and the proceedings were governed by Roman canon law. Only after a conviction was the heretic handed over to the civil authorities for the sentence to be carried out.
    The Court of Star Chamber was a royal prerogative court whose jurisdiction lay in cases of treason and sedition. I don't believe it would have heard a heresy case as that was the preserve of the ecclesiastical courts.
  • B71115

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    Feb 22, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
    All I know is that Judge Judy would have handled it in about 22 minutes.
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    Feb 22, 2010 4:11 AM GMT
    B71115 saidAll I know is that Judge Judy would have handled it in about 22 minutes.


    lol

    Even the mighty google couldnt help!
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    Feb 22, 2010 4:44 AM GMT
    archangel7542 saidOk, this is going to sound a little odd out of context, but I need some help before later this evening if possible.

    Does anyone have any information about the charge of heresy as it applied before the Reformation Parliament in England of 1529?

    I know that Thomas More had already burned approximately 6 people before the start of Parliament at the time and that his means for doing so weren't very legitimate, since he used Star Court to get his convictions. But, I mainly need to know about the procedures followed by the ecclesiastical courts to bring about the charge of heresy and what constitutes evidence at this point in time.

    Also, if anyone has any good sources, that would be greatly appreciated.

    Does this help?

    http://tinyurl.com/yjsglck

    Look down starting at very bottom of page 22.

    Also, maybe you can google some of the people or manuscripts discussed.
  • WILDCARD73

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    Feb 22, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    try wikipedia by the least
    there is some info there?


    try watching the tudors
    history of england

  • inuman

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    Feb 22, 2010 5:34 AM GMT
    Oh this one is going to be a total mind blower here but get ready and brace yourself for this one, here it comes, be warned that I warned you before I dropped the bomb on this one, go to the library and research it icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 22, 2010 6:30 AM GMT
    Caslon13000 said
    archangel7542 saidOk, this is going to sound a little odd out of context, but I need some help before later this evening if possible.

    Does anyone have any information about the charge of heresy as it applied before the Reformation Parliament in England of 1529?

    I know that Thomas More had already burned approximately 6 people before the start of Parliament at the time and that his means for doing so weren't very legitimate, since he used Star Court to get his convictions. But, I mainly need to know about the procedures followed by the ecclesiastical courts to bring about the charge of heresy and what constitutes evidence at this point in time.

    Also, if anyone has any good sources, that would be greatly appreciated.

    Does this help?

    http://tinyurl.com/yjsglck

    Look down starting at very bottom of page 22.

    Also, maybe you can google some of the people or manuscripts discussed.


    Thank you so much; that helps a lot!

    Also, inuman, I thank you for your comment, though without knowing the amount of research I have already done on this and many other topics in this era, I'm going excuse you for not knowing and being rude. But please, next time you see someone asking for information on a topic, assume that they have already done enough research on it before hand that they could then have the need to search out other venues from which to find knowledge.
  • inuman

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    Feb 22, 2010 6:47 AM GMT
    I really don't care either way if you excuse me or not, if you've done enough of the leg work might as well finish it all then. You can think I'm being rude but I'm not I was being honest, rude would have been something like oh I don't know like this

    *insert picture of the bird being flipped*

    but there wasn't was there? no I said go to the library and research it. How hard was that? I mean seriously if you were serious about it then you wouldn't be asking us to assist you in finishing it, you could have google, wikipedia, or all the other search engines out there in cyber space.

    Me thinks you were just doing it out of some sort of way to find some common ground with like minded guys but again that's just my two cents on the matter icon_cool.gif
  • fitartistsf

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    Feb 22, 2010 7:08 AM GMT
    Hey, Archangel, I actually thought it was cool you asking a non-sexual question, very nice for once that a topic was a bit different.

    Inuman, you are a fucking, ignoramous. Go peddle your idiocy somewhere else. The guy had a legitimate question. Maybe he had exhausted all the relevent avenues of research, and wanted to reach out to other, more intelligent RJer's for a little more help...

    Geez, there's one in every crowd....
  • inuman

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    Feb 22, 2010 7:14 AM GMT
    So if there is one in every crowd why do you have the 2 stamped on your head?
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    Feb 22, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
    archangel7542 said
    Caslon13000 said
    archangel7542 saidOk, this is going to sound a little odd out of context, but I need some help before later this evening if possible.

    Does anyone have any information about the charge of heresy as it applied before the Reformation Parliament in England of 1529?

    I know that Thomas More had already burned approximately 6 people before the start of Parliament at the time and that his means for doing so weren't very legitimate, since he used Star Court to get his convictions. But, I mainly need to know about the procedures followed by the ecclesiastical courts to bring about the charge of heresy and what constitutes evidence at this point in time.

    Also, if anyone has any good sources, that would be greatly appreciated.

    Does this help?

    http://tinyurl.com/yjsglck

    Look down starting at very bottom of page 22.

    Also, maybe you can google some of the people or manuscripts discussed.


    Thank you so much; that helps a lot!

    YAY! I am glad it helped. ... icon_biggrin.gif

    It took a lot of googling and reading to find that. But it was like a real life google treasure hunt....and I love history, so it was fun.