How will America change under Republican leadership?

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    Feb 23, 2010 1:45 AM GMT
    Let's say that 2012 is the year for a total switch to Republican control.

    From the Republicans(or leaners) here, I'd love to hear SPECIFICS on the issues you care about.

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    Feb 23, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    SouthBeach? Any Other Republicans?

    Do you have any ideas about how America would improve under Republican leadership?
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    Feb 24, 2010 12:11 AM GMT
    - Free market. Less taxes on big corporations. Labor unions banned. Minimum wage lowered.
    - Environmental safety laws rescinded in favor of complete and systematic exploitation of natural resources (particularly oil). Economic prosperity over natural conservation.
    - Welfare system privatized and handed over to church charities.
    - No more changes to the Bill of Rights. Ever. Period. All laws must adhere closely to the original. No exceptions.
    - Decentralized government. Federalization and state armies. Except if the current president is republican then he gets to do anything he likes.
    - No gay marriage, ever. DUH
    - Abortion becomes illegal, no exceptions.
    - Rescinding of special protection laws for women and minorities.
    - Capital punishment.
    - Free guns!
    - Education system privatized.
    - Organized prayer in public schools and the acceptance of intelligent design as valid curriculum.
    - More military spending.
    - Scorched earth policies in times of war.
    - Seclusion and promotion of nationalist policies. Decrease in participating in international action, including disaster help, policing actions, responsibility to international tribunals and alliances etc. Except when future attacks are imminent (or perceived to be imminent), then scorched earth policies apply and mass indoctrination on the remaining population to democratic and capitalist values.
    - Stronger policies against communist states.
    - Restriction of immigrant rights until remaining immigrants go back to their homelands.
    - Relegation of ethnic minorities to the background.
    - Greater role of the Christian churches in the government, particularly evangelical ones.
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    Feb 24, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
    Sedative said- Free market. Less taxes on big corporations. Labor unions banned. Minimum wage lowered.
    - Environmental safety laws rescinded in favor of complete and systematic exploitation of natural resources (particularly oil). Economic prosperity over natural conservation.
    - Welfare system privatized and handed over to church charities.
    - No more changes to the Bill of Rights. Ever. Period. All laws must adhere closely to the original. No exceptions.
    - Decentralized government. Federalization and state armies. Except if the current president is republican then he gets to do anything he likes.
    - No gay marriage, ever. DUH
    - Abortion becomes illegal, no exceptions.
    - Rescinding of special protection laws for women and minorities.
    - Capital punishment.
    - Free guns!
    - Education system privatized.
    - Organized prayer in public schools and the acceptance of intelligent design as valid curriculum.
    - More military spending.
    - Scorched earth policies in times of war.
    - Seclusion and promotion of nationalist policies. Decrease in participating in international action, including disaster help, policing actions, responsibility to international tribunals and alliances etc. Except when future attacks are imminent (or perceived to be imminent), then scorched earth policies apply and mass indoctrination on the remaining population to democratic and capitalist values.
    - Stronger policies against communist states.
    - Restriction of immigrant rights until remaining immigrants go back to their homelands.
    - Relegation of ethnic minorities to the background.
    - Greater role of the Christian churches in the government, particularly evangelical ones.
    in order words, back the year 1898? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 24, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    Yep! icon_biggrin.gif
  • leixguy

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    Feb 24, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
    Sedative said- Free market. Less taxes on big corporations. Labor unions banned. Minimum wage lowered.
    - Environmental safety laws rescinded in favor of complete and systematic exploitation of natural resources (particularly oil). Economic prosperity over natural conservation.
    - Welfare system privatized and handed over to church charities.
    - No more changes to the Bill of Rights. Ever. Period. All laws must adhere closely to the original. No exceptions.
    - Decentralized government. Federalization and state armies. Except if the current president is republican then he gets to do anything he likes.
    - No gay marriage, ever. DUH
    - Abortion becomes illegal, no exceptions.
    - Rescinding of special protection laws for women and minorities.
    - Capital punishment.
    - Free guns!
    - Education system privatized.
    - Organized prayer in public schools and the acceptance of intelligent design as valid curriculum.
    - More military spending.
    - Scorched earth policies in times of war.
    - Seclusion and promotion of nationalist policies. Decrease in participating in international action, including disaster help, policing actions, responsibility to international tribunals and alliances etc. Except when future attacks are imminent (or perceived to be imminent), then scorched earth policies apply and mass indoctrination on the remaining population to democratic and capitalist values.
    - Stronger policies against communist states.
    - Restriction of immigrant rights until remaining immigrants go back to their homelands.
    - Relegation of ethnic minorities to the background.
    - Greater role of the Christian churches in the government, particularly evangelical ones.


    lol at most of the points, but i got to say i would agree with some of them!
  • DanOmatic

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    Feb 24, 2010 2:48 AM GMT
    um, didn't we like just have 8 years to come to know what a disaster that would be?
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    Feb 24, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    For better or worse it won't change that much... things just get worse... bush started a war... obama escalated it... bush spent too much money ...obama spent even more... the next group will just up the ante further... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Feb 24, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
    My father will be elated but he'll be sad that my partner and I move to Ecuador where my partner was born.
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    Feb 24, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mattyrec saidFor better or worse it won't change that much... things just get worse... bush started a war... obama escalated it... bush spent too much money ...obama spent even more... the next group will just up the ante further... icon_rolleyes.gif

    Correct.


    Oh cmon. We all know ALL politicians are asshats. icon_rolleyes.gif

    What I want to know is WHY you self-identify with a particular party. What do you want to see?

    For example, I side more with dems (even if I'm not even american), because despite their leaders being ineffectual ass-kissing pussies they still represent the ideologies I would like to see the most in action (though lord knows we'll probably have to wait centuries until they actually grow some balls).

    So go on. What is it you believe that Republicans would do as to justify your support of them?
  • DanOmatic

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    Feb 24, 2010 3:13 PM GMT
    This morning on NPR, I heard a snippet of Sarah Palin's speech to a crowd in Texas, comparing Texas to Alaska and noting that both states are strong supporters of guns and God. I'm not a theologian, but WTF? I'm afraid that's the sad, extremist direction of the Republican party. Guns and religion: isn't that what the Taliban stands for, too? Doesn't seem like many people are making the connection...
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    Feb 24, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
    @SouthBeach -

    I agree (shock!) with you that it will be interesting to see what will happen when baby boomers are largely absent from political leadership, but given how our generation has fucked up the gay rights movement, I'm not sure we'll do any better.
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    Feb 24, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    we┬┤ve already seen how america changed under republican leadership: wars, neurosis on "homeland security", suspension of habeas corpus etc etc etc

    The real question is whether it will change under the democrats. I suspect not.
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    Feb 24, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
    it is so good not to have to worry about the future of my children
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    Feb 24, 2010 8:49 PM GMT
    Didn't we just have 8 years of Bush, and all the terrible things it entailed?
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    Feb 25, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mattyrec saidFor better or worse it won't change that much... things just get worse... bush started a war... obama escalated it... bush spent too much money ...obama spent even more... the next group will just up the ante further... icon_rolleyes.gif

    Correct.


    Yet it is correct.
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    Feb 25, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    NC3athlete saidThis morning on NPR, I heard a snippet of Sarah Palin's speech to a crowd in Texas, comparing Texas to Alaska and noting that both states are strong supporters of guns and God. I'm not a theologian, but WTF? I'm afraid that's the sad, extremist direction of the Republican party. Guns and religion: isn't that what the Taliban stands for, too? Doesn't seem like many people are making the connection...

    I don't have a problem with the guns thing.... but religion should have no place in American politics.


    Religion should have no say in politics anywhere, The laws of the land and heaven should always be separate. But America being a Religious country, or Christan country, it's words may well say, separation of State and religion, yet it's actions say something diffrent. This is embedded and is not going to change anytime soon.
  • myklet1

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    Mar 02, 2010 8:53 PM GMT
    LikeableGuy saidSouthBeach? Any Other Republicans?

    Do you have any ideas about how America would improve under Republican leadership?

    Republicans only care about keeping their old money safe. They don't give a shit how the lower class survives. That's why Republicans don't want anything that is GOOD for the lower class. They don't have to worry.
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    Mar 02, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    America would turn into a christian version of iranicon_razz.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 02, 2010 10:10 PM GMT
    SouthBeach1500, it is not just the Baby Boomer generation that is responsible for the current mess our government is in. If you think the Generation Xers are going to do any better in office, you are in for the shock of your life. There are plenty of Xers in elected office right now and they are just as bought and just as corrupt as the older generations. So stop making the false statements that once the boomers are out of office things will get better because from the performance of most Generation Xers in office, it is going to be more of the same because your generation is really no damn better than the Baby Boomers. It is going to be more tax and spend and dig deeper deficits until the Chinese take our credit card away.
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    Mar 02, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
    Sedative said...For example, I side more with dems (even if I'm not even american), because despite their leaders being ineffectual ass-kissing pussies they still represent the ideologies I would like to see the most in action (though lord knows we'll probably have to wait centuries until they actually grow some balls).

    So go on. What is it you believe that Republicans would do as to justify your support of them?

    I've often criticized Pattison from Australian for commenting on the US, because he isn't a citizen, but mostly because he is so misinformed about us, yet so assured in his errors.

    You freely admit you're not a US citizen, yet you seem to know something about us. True, what you say largely agrees with my own views, so that opens me to the fault of being biased. Yet you criticize as well, and in calling Democrats "ass-kissing pussies" you validate you're no fan of the Dems. (Though here again, I must confess to agreeing with you: the current US Democratic leadership ARE ass-kissing pussies, that I'd love to see replaced with some who have political balls)

    As for what the Republicans will do: destroy the US, once and for all. Gays will need to look for political asylum, though I hate to leave. But one has to accept when one is no longer welcome, whether at a private party or in a country. And where it will become dangerous and forbidden to be, even in a place where my family has lived for over 350 years, long before these bigots ever stepped foot.

    Ah, well, such does history teach us. The US will not fail from without, but from within. Time for gays to begin our escape & survival strategies. As for fools like southbeach1500, he will align himself with the Republicans, only to find himself betrayed and condemned by them in the end. I'd term him a gay Robespierre, fated for the guillotine himself, but he lacks the political stature or personal distinction for such an analogy.
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    Mar 03, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    And yet, SouthBeach, you still can't find anything positive to say about a Republican program.

    The Party of NO......has NO plan.

    Thanks for making that clear.
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    Mar 03, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Red_Vespa saidAs for what the Republicans will do: destroy the US, once and for all. Gays will need to look for political asylum, though I hate to leave. But one has to accept when one is no longer welcome, whether at a private party or in a country. And where it will become dangerous and forbidden to be, even in a place where my family has lived for over 350 years, long before these bigots ever stepped foot.


    A bit paranoid, aren't you? icon_rolleyes.gif


    I actually don't think it's paranoid. There are elements in the Republican Party who would very much like to see the US turned into a banana republic, where predatory capitalism reigns, the federal gov't is starved, and the citizens are forced into any sort of work that is available.