MikemikeMike saidJust because chucky is a roid advocate doesn't mean he knows all about them.
I have and never will do steroids. I have a few friends at the gym who have perfect bodies, much better than mine, and I know for a fact they do NOT use steroids.
Most train really hard, have OCD when it comes to eating and they have god given great genetics.
I'm a wellness advocate. The proof is in the pudding. I'm also an advocate of truth. It makes no sense to be take statins, and a handful of other crappy drugs, when, almost always, HRT would be a much better fix, for almost any man over 25. Not only is it about being healthier, but, about having a higher quality of life, as well.
To get the magazine cover bod, unless you're very young, there's a regimen that's required.
Different cultures, and sub-cultures, have different constructs of what they consider attractive, as we all know.
The "fitness" industry, though, lies about a LOT of things. It makes no sense to take garbage from the "health" food store, when you could take something that DOES work. Things are very often different from what they seem. After 35 years in gyms, I'm well-versed in what does, and does not, go on, and what shoot preps are and so on.
We have lots of double standards from make up, to breast implants, to botox, to toleration of obesity. It is what it is.
It's estimated by The USDA that fully 1/3 of all Americans will be type 2 diabetic by 2020. That's 1/3!. The most clear and present danger to modern American society today is obesity and all the disease it causes. Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable. Again, the single most dangerous thing you can do is to be fat. Add smoking to that. and you have a prescription for failure and illness.
MikeMikeMike is ill-informed, and likes to throw mud. Some are not just ignorant, but, have a hateful streak, too. No matter how hard you train, and even with some genetics, if you do not have sufficient androgen, rest, and calories, you won't make gains with regard to being muscular. It can't, and won't, happen. That's science. That doesn't mean that if you employ science you won't do well; it doesn't mean that anyone is huge is made from a magic potion. It does mean all those things coming together at the same time. If you only eat once a day, and train 3 times a week, and party hardy, chances are you'll look, and feel like, shit, even if you do have some good genes. In my case, I weigh around 210 to 220 pretty much no matter what I do unless I bring my calories up and get real busy to lean out. That's my genetic set point. In high school it was 175. In college it was 200. After college it was 230. Now, it hovers around 205 to 220. You move your set point around with calories and activity.
If you have small bones, eat like crap, and party nightly, even if you take a gallon of magic potion, you won't make gains. Magic potion allows you to train harder, longer, and recover faster, but does not a lot of good if you're lazy and won't eat.
Highly trained and experienced athletes. like me, who have 35 years (that's 3.5 decades) training are bound to have a body that's different from all those years under load; the discipline; the focus; the calories; the work ethic. Whether the result is "beauty" or not is all very subjective. In my case, it seems that most folks like it very much, but, of course, there will always be naysayers. I'm o.k. with that. Skinny folks need love, too.
Can you look great without a magic potion? I'd say so. You can look like the perfect lines of a collegiate gymnast, or collegiate wrestler. If you want the magazine cover look, though, understand, that's about undergoing a process, and having done your work in the gym, and understanding how the human machine works on the day of the shoot.