Olympic figure skater Johnny Weir is pissed...

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    Feb 27, 2010 2:17 AM GMT
    Skater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    They "pissed me off," the outspoken Weir said in a press conference in Vancouver, reports People.com.

    "I'm not somebody to cry about something or to be weak about something," Weir added. "I felt very defiant when I saw these comments."

    The 25-year-old athlete was referring to observations made about his skating style and costumes by Claude Mailhot and Alain Goldberg of RDS, a French-language sports channel in Quebec.

    "This may not be politically correct, but do you think he lost points due to his costume and his body language?" Mailhot said.

    Goldberg responded that Weir's graceful mannerisms take the muscle out of male figure skating and damage the sport.

    "They'll think all the boys who skate will end up like him," he said. "It sets a bad example."

    The controversial commentary continued about the skater whose life is chronicled in the Sundance Channel documentary "Be Good Johnny Weir."

    The men suggested that Weir, a three-time U.S. national figure skating champ, should take a gender test — and that he should skate against women.

    "It wasn't these two men criticizing my skating, it was them criticizing me as a person," Weir said. "Nobody knows me. I think masculinity is what you believe it to be."

    http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/02/26/2010-02-26_figure_skater_johnny_weir_lashes_back_at_broadcasters_who_suggested_he_sets_a_ba.html

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    Feb 27, 2010 2:24 AM GMT
    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.
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    Feb 27, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    From what I've read over the last couple of days, he has reacted way classier than that:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Johnny-Weir-responds-to-critics-with-calm-class?urn=oly,224493
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    Feb 27, 2010 3:02 AM GMT
    Red_Vespa said
    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.


    They might be uppity, but damn if their athletes aren't pretty...

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    even figure skating
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    Feb 27, 2010 3:03 AM GMT
    bernd saidFrom what I've read over the last couple of days, he has reacted way classier than that:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/Johnny-Weir-responds-to-critics-with-calm-class?urn=oly,224493


    Oh yeah...he's handling it very well, but I think he's totally justified in being pissed.
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    Feb 27, 2010 3:18 AM GMT
    Good for him for speaking out in such a classy way - and speaking up for being who you are instead of trying to wear a fucking mask.

    And thanks for posting this topic, abm.
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    Feb 27, 2010 4:34 AM GMT
    He is the best! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    abm1985 said
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    That's actually Juan Martin del Potro, who hails from Argentina.
  • rdberg1957

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    Feb 27, 2010 6:24 AM GMT
    he's hot though.

    I adore Johnny Weir--he is flaming in a good way and wonderful as a skater. He is a very sexy guy.
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:28 AM GMT
    I think people who know nothing about the French, French Canadians and other francophones should do well to keep their thoughts on the matter to themselves lest their ignorance contaminate others.

    It's bad enough to have to suffer the thinly veiled bourgeois smugness that permeates most of this person's posts. But now this fake cosmopolitanism? Barf!

    Il y a des baffes qui se perdent et c'est franchement dommage.
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:42 AM GMT
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    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.


    Your ignorance and complete lack of understanding NEVER ceases to amaze me.

    One thing that would really amaze me, though... is if you actually made a coherent comment.

    Let me guess... you've spent a lot of time in Quebec. Because clearly, you know all about Quebecois people.

    I'm curious... do you sometimes forget to breathe?
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:44 AM GMT
    and on the topic... good for Weir. He should be and his comments are totally justified and spot-on.

    Figure skating seems to have a lot of performance to it, and no one can say he was lacking in that.
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
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    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.

    I have lots of Franco-Manitoban friends as well as a few from Quebec. They're all super nice people. I'm not sure if you are joking but damn... Got to agree with MOM on this one.

    That being said, I think there a lot of French-Canadians with their heads up their asses, as demonstrated by the two commentators.
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    Feb 27, 2010 6:54 AM GMT
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    Red_Vespa said
    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.

    I have lots of Franco-Manitoban friends as well as a few from Quebec. They're all super nice people. I'm not sure if you are joking but damn... Got to agree with MOM on this one.


    given the utter disability that I have witnessed to fall from his e-person's mouth... my guess is... not joking.

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    Feb 27, 2010 6:59 AM GMT
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    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.


    Please disregard the senile ramblings above, Quebecois have twice voted to retain their status as French-Canadians.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:09 AM GMT
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    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.


    Wrong. What do you know about Quebec? They would rather be their unique selves than be French or Canadian (although they would probably prefer to claim the term Canadien for themselves, perhaps rightfully), and Quebec and France don't particularly get along that well culturally except for making a united francophone front for the rest of the world. According to your logic, Americans, Canadians and Australians should all want to be British, or all be same, at that.

    I'm not defending the Canadian commentators. French and English ones alike have done some disgraceful commentary on the games. The English coverage is being done for the first year by CTV, a commercial network, which has sunk to the lowest common denominator at times, making fun of foreign athletes, dwelling on the sex lives of athletes and the sex culture of the Olympics, depicting the games as a frat party in the Greek village... even offering a gold medallist a pitcher of beer to chug on live television. I'm not sure that's even legal...
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:18 AM GMT
    TrowelMonger said
    That being said, I think there a lot of French-Canadians with their heads up their asses, as demonstrated by the two commentators.


    There are people in all places, of all cultures and creeds... with their heads up their asses. For example... Red Vespa.

    However, I happen to know some amazing, intelligent and incredible Americans and so I cannot make such a sweeping statement to say that all Americans have their head up their ass.

    But Vespa does.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:18 AM GMT
    Without regard to where the obnoxious commentators come from, Weir is a great skater and deserves nothing but kudos for all this work and talent. Would I have chosen a different costume? Yeah, maybe so. But we who are enlightened and accepting gays applaud his individuality and admire him for being an amazing athlete.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:19 AM GMT
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    abm1985 saidSkater Johnny Weir had icy comments about Canadian broadcasters who dissed his Olympic efforts.

    Well, they were French commentators as I understand. Does anybody respect the French, or care what they have to say?

    And no, don't tell me they're hyphenated French-Canadians. The French always view themselves as French, and nothing else. They would make Quebec a province of France if they could, everyone knows that.

    So Johnny Weir should just ignore them. They are French losers, as the French always are, they are not worth consideration.


    I just checked out the original video, and while I agree they sounded like a couple of idiots, what does the commentators being francophone have anything to do with what they said? Although it is not something to be said on television, I'm sure many people think the same thing when they see him perform. In fact, I have seen worse things said about feminine guys right here in these forums.
    The skater is super talented and handled the situation gracefully. Major points to him.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:25 AM GMT
    I'm an anglophone from Quebec. Those commentators were dicks and unrepresentative of the median dickery of your average Quebecois.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:27 AM GMT
    makavelli saidI'm an anglophone from Quebec. Those commentators were dicks and unrepresentative of the median dickery of your average Quebecois.


    Haha, spoken like a true Anglo.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:36 AM GMT
    MeOhMy saidand on the topic... good for Weir. He should be and his comments are totally justified and spot-on.

    Figure skating seems to have a lot of performance to it, and no one can say he was lacking in that.



    Um.....trying to get back on topic here.....


    The biggest joke about the whole discussion about Johnny Weir's interpreted flamboyant performance is......

    His work.
    It is probably the most technically conservative TRUE to the sport skating you will ever see....as noted by NBC commentator Sandra Bezic during his skate this week.
    He certainly isn't more flaming on the ice than any other skater as I see it.

    It isn't like he takes the ice and his wrists go limp and he starts mugging.


    I find it fascinating that all this chatter about Weir seems to be about when he isn't skating....instead of when he is.


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    Feb 27, 2010 7:40 AM GMT
    Just that first five seconds of warming up in that video will make any hetero crinkle their face in misplaced disgust.

    He's graceful and feminine... I wasn't aware it was Ronnie Coleman on Ice...
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:50 AM GMT
    I don't understand how someone can be critical like that without being critical of the whole sport itself as being feminine.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:51 AM GMT
    abm1985 said

    They might be uppity, but damn if their athletes aren't pretty...

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    abm,

    These guys are french?

    Viva la France!



    I always thought figureskating was so graceful. Mr. Weir seems very good at it. The commentators, no matter their nationality, let their own hang-ups influence their comments. How sad.