Liberalism, Atheism, Male Monogamy linked to IQ

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    Feb 27, 2010 3:18 AM GMT
    http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/26/liberals.atheists.sex.intelligence/
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    Feb 27, 2010 3:44 AM GMT
    " these preferences may stem from a desire to show superiority or elitism, which also has to do with IQ. In fact, aligning oneself with "unconventional" philosophies such as liberalism or atheism may be "ways to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart," he said.

    Which explains another mystery:

    "Aligning oneself with 'unconventional' philosophies" as a "way to communicate to everyone that you're pretty smart"

    might explain why some gay men pretend to be Republicans.
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    Feb 27, 2010 5:48 AM GMT
    Oh yeah then why did God create Liberalism and Atheism huh? Explain that one smart guys! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Feb 27, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    someguy saidOh yeah then why did God create Liberalism and Atheism huh? Explain that one smart guys! icon_biggrin.gif


    Who says there is a God or a God that creates. What if God is defined within the laws of nature?

    "Religion, the current theory goes, did not help people survive or reproduce necessarily, but goes along the lines of helping people to be paranoid, Kanazawa said. Assuming that, for example, a noise in the distance is a signal of a threat helped early humans to prepare in case of danger."

    "It helps life to be paranoid, and because humans are paranoid, they become more religious, and they see the hands of God everywhere," Kanazawa said.

    I really like that quote. It's so true!!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 27, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
    As far as I am concerned, I think that most religious beliefs are based on three concepts: fear, superstition, ignorance. I am currently an agnostic but I am starting to lean towards the athiest viewpoints.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    Hmmm....well it looks like they are looking at only a few percentage points away from the median IQ which is normally 100. The difference between 95 and 106? What does the genius level and above believe in.....I guess that's what I would be more interested in.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:54 PM GMT
    This sounds about right.
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    Feb 27, 2010 7:58 PM GMT
    Hmmmm, something to think about today.....icon_cool.gif
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    Sorry, I disagree with the link article - UNLESS American Christians are VERY DIFFERENT to British Christians.
    Here in the UK the VAST MAJORITY of British Christians, those who attend church on a regular basis, are middle class individuals who hold a University degree, have respectable jobs, a high income and a stable family life. I have known several personally who are medical doctors (and I mean real doctors, not chiropractics and such like on the lunatic fringe), accountants, financial advisers, lawyers, solicitors, architects and so on.
    According to my personal experience, I believe that there is a connection between reading the Bible and improving the IQ.
    Once, on a counselling session, more than three hours of it was involving an IQ test, in which I scored 111, with the psychologist believing that I would have scored higher (116) had I not been stunted by nervousness.
    Yet I had been attending church on a regular basis since 1973.
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    NotThatOld saidSorry, I disagree with the link article - UNLESS American Christians are VERY DIFFERENT to British Christians.
    Here in the UK the VAST MAJORITY of British Christians, those who attend church on a regular basis, are middle class individuals who hold a University degree, have respectable jobs, a high income and a stable family life. I have known several personally who are medical doctors (and I mean real doctors, not chiropractics and such like on the lunatic fringe), accountants, finacial advisors, lawyers, solicitors, architects and so on.
    According to my personal experience, I believe that there is a connection between reading the Bible and improving the IQ.
    Once, on a counselling session, more than three hours of it was involving an IQ test, in which I scored 111, with the psychologist believing that I would have scored higher (116) had I not been stunted by nervousness.
    Yet I had been attending church on a regular basis since 1973.


    11 <> 111
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
    McGay said

    11 <> 111


    Come on, McGay, is that the best you can do?
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:36 AM GMT
    What are you talking about not that old? IQ is not linked to what kind of profession you have; for example, some of the members of MENSA are bouncers and workers at burger king. It has nothing to do with whether you're a physician or a lawyer.

    And they're not saying "everyone who is religious is stupid", they even clearly stated in their article that the data should not be used to make assumptions about groups of people; which I think is very modest of them.

    And saying that you believe that the bible improves you IQ due to yourself scoring a high IQ doesn't really mean anything. This is why researches study several cases to be able to make a generalization; conducting a research with only one subject would be pointless if the aim of the research is to generalize, unless all humans were exactly the same.
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    buddha_the_god saidWhat are you talking about not that old? IQ is not linked to what kind of profession you have; for example, some of the members of MENSA are bouncers and workers at burger king. It has nothing to do with whether you're a physician or a lawyer.

    And they're not saying "everyone who is religious is stupid", they even clearly stated in their article that the data should not be used to make assumptions about groups of people; which I think is very modest of them.

    And saying that you believe that the bible improves you IQ due to yourself scoring a high IQ doesn't really mean anything. This is why researches study several cases to be able to make a generalization; conducting a research with only one subject would be pointless if the aim of the research is to generalize, unless all humans were exactly the same.


    Point taken.
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:59 AM GMT
    News Flash!

    If you read the bible, god will increase your IQ!

    WOW! Now that's news!

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    Feb 28, 2010 1:34 AM GMT
    Celticmusl saidHmmm....well it looks like they are looking at only a few percentage points away from the median IQ which is normally 100. The difference between 95 and 106? What does the genius level and above believe in.....I guess that's what I would be more interested in.


    Most geniuses probably realize that human perception and psychology inherently creates a biased and imperfect understanding of a universe that, even scientifically speaking, is mostly beyond our understanding. We are bubbles in the sea foam of a very dynamic cosmic ocean, and we can't see very far into the deep dark places. We can only understand what we can sense and conceive of, but the universe goes very far beyond those limits.
  • rdberg1957

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    Feb 28, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    I don't think IQ measures all types of intelligence (I am a psychologist and there are many measures of intelligence). I am a liberal and I am a spiritual atheist. I don't think that makes me superior to others who are conservative or are religious. We're all just bozos on this bus trying to figure out life.
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:39 PM GMT
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    McGay said

    11 <> 111


    Come on, McGay, is that the best you can do?


    At the moment, it was. Dumbing things down for you gets exhausting. Give a guy a break.
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    Feb 28, 2010 12:46 PM GMT
    I'm crossposting this from JMG, where I replied to a post about this same article.

    It's probably safe to say that most of the world's religions are membered by those born into them. This makes believing in any one of them a statistical likelihood that what you've been born into is incorrect or a lie. When I realized this, I felt it a complete waste of time to pursue what I was born into. I wasn't going to waste a second chasing down what was as likely to be wrong or a lie as any other dogmatic belief system. If there's a supreme being, and I doubt it strongly, then either it's one that would forgive those unfortunate by birth or it's one I'd rather not spend eternity with.