How much longer can the WWW stay free?

  • maximumrisk

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    Feb 27, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    Hey Guys,

    For some time now it seems like every Online Newspaper I read, I always find Articles about Danger from the Internet, Viruses, Hackers and what not.

    The thinking behind this seems simple. Make the People fear the anomity of the net and you will get the permission to control it. Just today I read an Article that Microsoft got the permission to close various Websites that were connected to a big Bot-Network. So it seems like the Tactic is working. What I am asking myself is if that is what People really want to happen? That the Goverments control what we see and what we can or can*t do? Not to mention that our Personal Information might be used against us. The Danger is not bigger now then it was 10 Years ago. Is it worth throwing our Freedom away?

    P.S: The US got 7 DNS Servers that are responsible for the websites of many other countries and also got a Emergency Shutdown for those.Thats a scary thought, one country can shut down 60% of the Internet if they wanted.
  • Webster666

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    Feb 28, 2010 12:32 AM GMT
    The Supremes have ruled that the internet is pretty much untouchable, and is self policing.
    With advertisers dying to pay for space on popular web sites, users should never have to pay anything.
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    Feb 28, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
    It'll never happen. As long as you have hackers that are just as, if not more, knowledgeable about the networks and protections out there as they sysadmins the internet is going to remain a free zone.
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    Feb 28, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    I hope you arent talking a day without RJ ... icon_eek.gif
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    Feb 28, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    Please deposit 25 cents for the next 3 minutes.
    (Remember when long distance wasn't free?)
  • maximumrisk

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    Feb 28, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidIt'll never happen. As long as you have hackers that are just as, if not more, knowledgeable about the networks and protections out there as they sysadmins the internet is going to remain a free zone.


    Still its a question if the other People gonna learn too how to unlock these securities. The Chinese barely get around their security.
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    Feb 28, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    maximumrisk said
    GwgTrunks saidIt'll never happen. As long as you have hackers that are just as, if not more, knowledgeable about the networks and protections out there as they sysadmins the internet is going to remain a free zone.


    Still its a question if the other People gonna learn too how to unlock these securities. The Chinese barely get around their security.


    But they do. And once they break it the government has to scramble to find a patch to a hole that's just going to be gouged back open.

    You do make a good point though, that eventually it's going to become so difficult to break through security that it might not even be worth it.
  • maximumrisk

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    Feb 28, 2010 7:45 PM GMT
    GwgTrunks said
    maximumrisk said
    GwgTrunks saidIt'll never happen. As long as you have hackers that are just as, if not more, knowledgeable about the networks and protections out there as they sysadmins the internet is going to remain a free zone.


    Still its a question if the other People gonna learn too how to unlock these securities. The Chinese barely get around their security.


    But they do. And once they break it the government has to scramble to find a patch to a hole that's just going to be gouged back open.

    You do make a good point though, that eventually it's going to become so difficult to break through security that it might not even be worth it.


    Let`s hope that this wont happen. Probably not in our time, but still it would be a shame.
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    Mar 01, 2010 11:10 AM GMT
    Even China has a hard time policing their self-contained internet. But yeah, I'm more worried about commercial copyright/distribution restrictions imposed by the companies (the youtube restrictions in which 1 vid out of 10 is not accessible to us is one example of which a majority of first-worlders have barely any idea about) rather than the internet ceasing to be free by itself.
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    Mar 01, 2010 11:44 AM GMT
    Don't be so paranoid. Microsoft's recent action was to protect hundreds of thousands of users infected by a botnet that was sending over a billion spams to infected users. Assuming you're not one of the spammers they nailed, you should be happy MSFT took the action they did.
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    Mar 01, 2010 11:53 AM GMT
    ^ And yeah. You wouldn't want to be a victim of those attack sites. Bot-networks are like the brains of malware infections. They infect thousands of users and use THEIR computers without their knowledge to send out spam. You wouldn't even realize that you were sending personal info to them AND they were using your computer and your internet to infect more people.

    Basically it turned your computer into a zombie.
  • maximumrisk

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    Mar 01, 2010 5:47 PM GMT
    Its no Paranoia. Do you think that the bigger companies gonna get the Permission order to go after users? No, first they need examples that the control works. I didn`t say that it was bad was Microsoft did, but the Computers connected to those Networks stay infected and they can just as easily be reconnected. Microsoft knows that, but the important thing behind this seems to be to make examples to loosen the restrictions.

    Also I am not stupid enough to let my computer get Hijacked like this.
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    Mar 01, 2010 6:00 PM GMT
    I don't know....

    How much longer do you reckon the music industry can stop us illegally downloading, I mean now that they shut down napster....

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  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 01, 2010 6:08 PM GMT
    Microsoft is very scary. If I go missing it was Microsoft, or I've gone off the grid in hiding.
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    Mar 01, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    It may come to a point where writers and music producers refuse to put out any new content unless people pay for it.

    My hope is that the internet breaks down the choke hold big media has on creativity, where only a few decide what they think people want to see and hear. That is already beginning to happen. TV sucks horribly, more people turn to the internet, people are getting more empowered to create and market stuff on their own DIRECT TO CUSTOMER with no middle men in the way. People are creating their own media blogs, their own Youtube channels, etc etc.