A "chuckler" with a smoker..... "You think I smoke"??

  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 01, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
    Kind of a funny this morning on my way to work. I stopped and got gas on my way in and was waiting in line to pay and a couple of the people in front of me in line were chatting. One of them remarked to the other about the other person "smoking" and whether new laws in Kansas regarding public smoking bothered them.

    The woman (who is a smoker, I could tell).. was so offended. "How can you tell I smoke"?, she asked. You could tell from her voice and she smelled nasty even back to where I was at. I was quick to pipe in, "Sure I can tell". She just looked so appauled. I was tempted to say something more, but I didn't......

    When I see someone purchasing cigarattes in a convenience store I usually try and say, "God, a pack of cigarettes costs that much, your kidding me". I just can't keep my mouth shut sometimes.
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    Mar 01, 2010 5:18 PM GMT
    And the Garden Hose Award of the Week goes to.....HndsmKansan...

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    for bringing evildoers to justice.
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    Mar 01, 2010 6:07 PM GMT
    Sometimes when I am waiting in line at the supermarket I can't help but notice what other people have in their shoping carts. I'm astounded at the junk people eat. Tons of candy and sweets, fatty cuts of pork and lard, junk food, packaged instant food with no nutritional value etc.

    And usually these people are overweight with kids who are overweight as well.

    And sometimes at the gym I wil see someone doing an exercise in very bad form that will ultimately casue them more damage than good.

    And sometimes I see people crossing the street when they don't have the "Walk" sign.

    And sometimes I overhear a parent being impatient with their kid, or feeding them a lilipop to keep them quiet rather than talking and calming the kid down.

    But I keep my mouth shut. As long as someone is minding their own business, i don't need to give them a lecture.

    Maybe if you keep a card in your back pocket that lists the organizations and telephone numbers a smoker can call to get help quitting would be more effective.

    Get it?
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    Mar 01, 2010 9:11 PM GMT
    Kudos to you for getting people to think for a minute! Smoking kills, big time, and to be complacent and not draw attention to it is to act as an enabler. Sometimes, doing nothing at all is the worst thing of all to do. Such is the case with folks without the courage to say something about it.

    The two leading killers in the country are obesity, and tobacco. Period. It is costing us in human tragedy, health care costs, lost productivity, and decreasing (yes, decreasing) lifespans.

    Step up! Say something!

    Type 2 diabetes is 100% preventable, yet, the USDA say fully 1/3 of Americans will be type 2 diabetic by 2020, at a HUGE cost to society.

    More folks need to step up. The inaction is killing us.

    You think a person gets to be 40% fat over night? Of course not! It's an ongoing failure of anyone to take action (including the fat ass) that causes it.

    Ever seen anyone die from lung cancer? Ever see anyone die from COPD? It ain't pretty. Folks are nuts that they raise cane about reproductive freedom, and then let fat asses do what they do.
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    Mar 01, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
    While I agree the woman's reaction is hilarious (as it would be if I reacted that way), I genuinely think that people should mind their own business when it comes to smoking. Knowing you, Chris, I'm sure you had good intentions, but as a smoker - who would like to quit sometime soon - having people rag on me about it doesn't motivate me.

    Chucky's scary statistics don't motivate me.

    Outlawing it in public spaces doesn't motivate me.

    What actually motivates me is a desire to have less ill-effects (better cardio endurance, muscle creation, etc.), which is one of the reasons I've upped my exercise.

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    Mar 01, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
    I think everyone should mind their own business. If the stinky lady in front of you in the line at a convenience store wants to smoke, let her, I'm sure she knows that it isn't healthy for her, and I'm also positive that when you're in line behind someone that buys a pack, they are fully aware of how much they cost, so they don't need you making snide remarks about it. People should just keep their mouths shut and mind they own business.
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    Mar 01, 2010 9:28 PM GMT
    Most everyone I know that smokes cigarettes wants to quit.


    I don't say anything unless they bring it up.
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    Mar 01, 2010 9:57 PM GMT
    How nice, while in city traffic, to have to smell cigarette smoke coming into my car. Thanks smokers. Thanks also to those of you who throw the butts into the street, or onto my property when you think you're not being observed. (I'm sure none of our RJ guys would do that.)

    I can very often spot a smoker. Evidence of it might include: Yellower teeth; A harder voice; Watery eyes; Sallow complexion and lines around the mouth - beyond their normal age. Often a smoker is out of shape, and out of school. I rarely ever see an attractive, intligent guy or woman smoking now.
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    Mar 01, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
    I always try to ration out my moments of smug superiority and making snide remarks to smokers doesn't rate very high on the list.

    I have never smoked and my friends that do are aware that I would prefer they did not. My grandfather died a long lingering death from emphysema/COPD that eventually collapsed his lungs after years of pretty much just sitting in a chair on oxygen. I have an aunt and uncle that are currently dying the same slow death though my aunt is still able to get around without oxygen. Given all this, I still do not feel the need to rub peoples' noses like they're unhousebroken puppies. Since when has demeaning someone ever been an effective way to win an argument?
  • njnick

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    Mar 01, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    I'm always amazed when I cross paths with someone who totally reeks because of smoking. Please keep in mind that I know plenty of smokers who somehow manage to smoke without it penetrating every pore in their body. I don't know if the smelly smokers smoke in a car with all the windows rolled up, hold the cigarette too close to their body so they're immersed in smoke the whol time....it's beyond me. Do you think they really don't know how terrible they smell? I actually had to ask a salesperson to leave my office once because they smelled so bad from smoking.

    I think it's much more offensive than body odor. Body odor at least you know can happen accidentally based on temperature, activity, etc....

    Good for you HndsmKansan......
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    Mar 01, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidHow nice, while in city traffic, to have to smell cigarette smoke coming into my car. Thanks smokers.


    Really? This is the height of hypocrisy. You are sitting over a huge combustion engine spewing smoke into the environment and you're worried that the cigarette smoke from a nearby car is bothering you?

    Do you not see how hilarious that is?
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    Mar 01, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    Oh please. We now hear once again from the smoker! Get off the defensive and no, there is nothing hilarious about some idiot smoker's second hand smoke blowing my way. It should not matter if one is in a car, on a bike, running, or anywhere in public.
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    Mar 01, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
    Well, I will just go ahead and tell you guys. As of the last day of February, I have failed one of my goals for this year. I fell off the wagon and considering what else is going on, I have no intention of getting back on it anytime soon and before Chucky spews his so called well intended garbage, yea, I am smoking again. It was a great two months on the only thing that could help me. Cold turkey puts me in the hospital (lungs started bleeding) so that is out. It affects everyone differently. As for the non smoking laws: Sure, great. I don't have a problem with them.And I can asure that browbeating someone, trying to get them to quit is the last thing that person needs to hear. In fact, if you go just far enough, you might just get a five finger sandwich to the jaw. Now that would smart, now wouldn't it?
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    Mar 01, 2010 10:42 PM GMT
    For most people smoking is an addiction and most people I've met with various addictions all wish they could stop.

    If someone asks openly I see no harm in responding but when engaging anyone with an addiction you have to ask yourself if the point your making is for you perceive as their own good or your own personal sense of catharsis.

    I'm sure whatever angst you carry over others smoking is ten fold for the person facing a tormented life and death. I don't know what the right thing to do is but I respect people who take a definitive stand because sometimes making a decision one way or the other is better than waffling in indecision.

    Addiction makes me sad... even if the Garden Hose Award of the week made me giggle uncontrollably.
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    Mar 01, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
    since when is her being appalled the wrong response to your eavesdropping in on her conversation and interjecting your opinion? no matter your opinion on smoking, what you did was rude. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 01, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
    You could tell the woman was offended and so you made the conscious decision to distress her still more over an issue that had nothing to do with you?
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    Mar 02, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    The only thing I smoke is cock.icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 02, 2010 12:12 AM GMT
    When I pull out a cigarette and someone around me says, "you know smoking is bad for you?" (this actually is very common), i always reply with:

    "no, i had no idea! thank you so much for pointing that out, because i can't read the cigarette package which lists all the delightful side effects, and it's not like I would have heard that anywhere else previously, thank you so much, you've changed my life, you've saved me, you're such a good person... and now that you've done your good deed for the day, you can fuck off before i put out my cigarette in your eye."

    everyone has vices. smokers just are more obvious about theirs.

    would it make me a good person if i saw some fat person eating a hamburger and being like, "you know, that's fattening, and not good for you... and it looks like you don't need it".... personally, i'd think that would make me a prick, not someone who is being helpful.
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    Mar 02, 2010 1:18 AM GMT
    Making smoking taboo has made some serious inroads, and, because of it, and along with folks watching their loved ones suffer and die, smokers are a dying breed.

    90% of your health care dollar is spent on 5% of the patients. Most of those eat too much, exercise to little, and SMOKE.

    Like obesity, it's completely self-inflicted, lack of personal discipline and a long list of excuse making.

    While putting forth truth (which sometimes isn't the case) and encouraging personal responsibility is a good thing, as you can see above, it's just not enough. In addition to the high taxes (smokers have a huge cost on business and to society that needs to be reclaimed) , sometimes, intervention is also required, as is sometimes the case with other "addicts" who refuse to help themselves. Some folks simply can't be swayed by common sense, science, and history of others, and have to be intervened upon. If we had more of it, more folks we be alive today. We think nothing of doing it for alcoholics, and users of rec drugs, but, don't do it on fat asses and smokers. We should.
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    Mar 02, 2010 1:43 AM GMT
    The comments shared above me here are accurate. Much of my time involves treating and following patients who took horrific care of themselves most of their lives. The word about overeating, drinking to excess, lack of exercising, and smoking as been out for approximately fifty years. What does it take for some people to get the message?
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    Mar 02, 2010 4:01 AM GMT
    I watched my mom and several close friends die a slow, painful, death from COPD. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

    My mom didn't know. She quit smoking in the late 80s, but, it was too little, too late.

    Folks now KNOW. There's no reason for them to continue to destroy their personal health in such a way.

    I can smell a smoker six feet away. We don't allow them in our home. We don't associate with them, unless absolutely needed. Most of our friends are health-aware and don't have those sorts of personal habits.
  • Neon_Dreams

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    Mar 02, 2010 4:06 AM GMT
    Smoking Stinks.

    'Nuff said.


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    Mar 02, 2010 4:13 PM GMT
    nyc10016 saidsince when is her being appalled the wrong response to your eavesdropping in on her conversation and interjecting your opinion? no matter your opinion on smoking, what you did was rude. icon_rolleyes.gif


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    Mar 02, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
    Oy
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    Mar 02, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    * fumbles sleepily for the "ignore his posts" link *