Idiot America...How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free

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    Mar 02, 2010 9:11 PM GMT
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    Ok, I just finished the book. Not impressed. I guess the book sticks to its title and tell how it happened, but not WHY. I was expecting more on why do so many americans believe such patently idiotic stuff.

    Dont recommend it. ... icon_evil.gif ... icon_evil.gif ... icon_evil.gif

    I did like the factoid that Justice Scolia cited Jack Bauer from 24, a fictional character from a TV show, as a basis for suspending suspending the Constitution. ... icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 02, 2010 9:33 PM GMT
    Caslon13000 said
    I did like the factoid that Justice Scolia cited Jack Bauer from 24, a fictional character from a TV show, as a basis for suspending suspending the Constitution. ... icon_eek.gif


    So Joel Surnow and Robert Cochran are writing our laws now?! Well, better them than Congress.
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    Mar 02, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
    I recently read it. I agree it lacked the polemics of "What's The Matter with Kansas?" but I did enjoy the distinction between the founding fathers' intent and what the religious right claims it to be.
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    Mar 02, 2010 10:02 PM GMT
    I am currently reading an interesting book titled Republican Gomorrah by Max Blumenthal. What an eye opener this book has been in the first seven chapters on how the GOP has been wrecked by the religious right wing especially by unstable, powerhungry lunatics like Howard F. Ahmanson Jr, R.J. Rushdoony, and the worst one of all James Dobson. A must read for anyone who wants to know more about these lunatic right wingers and how they became so ultra conservative and hateful. I have not read Idiot America yet although I have seen it in bookstores.
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    Mar 02, 2010 10:08 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidI am currently reading an interesting book titled Republican Gomorrah by Max Blumenthal. What an eye opener this book has been in the first seven chapters on how the GOP has been wrecked by the religious right wing especially by unstable, powerhungry lunatics like Howard F. Ahmanson Jr, R.J. Rushdoony, and the worst one of all James Dobson. A must read for anyone who wants to know more about these lunatic right wingers and how they became so ultra conservative and hateful. I have not read Idiot America yet although I have seen it in bookstores.

    I don't know what to make of you, guy. Sometimes you write stuff like this, and sometimes you write stuff that infuriates me. No doubt I do the same to you. Or the worst insult either of us could pay to the other, that we really don't give a fuck what the other says.

    I just wish you would be consistent, which I've failed to see. Or is it my own narrow focus and lack of broadmindedness? You are indeed a puzzlement to me (to borrow a word from The Kind and I). icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 02, 2010 10:52 PM GMT
    Watch the movie Idiocracy. The movie was kinda awful. But the underlying concept of the movie is valid. I see it becoming more and more true as time goes by.
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    Mar 03, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    Red Vespa,

    I don't find anything odd about a Conservative like RoadBikeRob being able to recognize the evils of the far-right wingers and a Talibangelist like James Dobson.

    The Conservative ideals are pretty admirable, especially the ideal of spending wisely.

    The current Republican Party is a disgusting misrepresentation of Conservatism. Instead of caution and frugality, the Party promotes recklessness toward our environment and a burning through our natural resources with no thought for tomorrow.

    Thinking Conservatives need to evict the anti-science lunatics; the morality police...and everything that Sarah Palin represents from their political coalition. Or watch the Good go down with the Stupid.
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    Mar 03, 2010 5:09 AM GMT
    xrichx... I was really disturbed by the implications of Idiocracy: it says that stupid people have lots of kids and smart people don't, hence there will be more stupid people. The inference from that is eugenics! If you don't want the idiots to take over, then don't let them have so many kids. The real answer is: EDUCATED people have fewer children. Everyone should be educated, and that's not something that's inherited. Results of education: lower birthrate overall. I do agree that some of the results of a totally UNEDUCATED (not genetically stupid) society are depicted in idiocracy.
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    Mar 03, 2010 7:17 AM GMT
    srqhottie saidxrichx... I was really disturbed by the implications of Idiocracy: it says that stupid people have lots of kids and smart people don't, hence there will be more stupid people. The inference from that is eugenics! If you don't want the idiots to take over, then don't let them have so many kids. The real answer is: EDUCATED people have fewer children. Everyone should be educated, and that's not something that's inherited. Results of education: lower birthrate overall. I do agree that some of the results of a totally UNEDUCATED (not genetically stupid) society are depicted in idiocracy.

    True, I agree with you. Although stupidity may not be genetically inherited, it certainly can be socially inherited. Education usually starts in one's own environment. Some parents don't see the point of sending their kids to higher education, or even enforcing basic education. And in some sub-cultures, education and smartness is frowned upon, and is viewed as "selling out". Although I didn't read the book in question, I'm sure it touches on the topic of sheep mentality.
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    Mar 03, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
    Maybe all that fast food has made people soft in the head.