In Obesity Epidemic, What’s One Cookie?

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    Mar 03, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    From the article:

    Regrettably, however, the body is more resistant to weight loss than weight gain. Hormones and brain chemicals that regulate your unconscious drive to eat and how your body responds to exercise can make it even more difficult to lose the weight. You may skip the cookie but unknowingly compensate by eating a bagel later on or an extra serving of pasta at dinner.

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/in-obesity-epidemic-whats-one-cookie/
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    Mar 03, 2010 9:42 PM GMT
    So, instead of trying so hard, embrace your bulk and find a gay lack-of-fitness site.
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    Mar 03, 2010 9:43 PM GMT
    McGay saidSo, instead of trying so hard, embrace your bulk and find a gay lack-of-fitness site.


    *giggling uncontrollably*
    "gay lack-of-fitness site"... this is why you are one of my favorites in the WHOLE wide world!
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    Mar 03, 2010 9:44 PM GMT
    You will be seated at the right hand of McGay.
  • xKorix

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    Mar 03, 2010 9:45 PM GMT
    I just eat tons of fat and protein...I'm never hungry icon_smile.gif seriously its not hard to slim down.
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    Mar 03, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
    Losing weight rarely is easy, but small changes can lead to larger ones and eventually to fitness. One cookie won't make much difference, but a bag every week sure will.
  • xKorix

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    Mar 03, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    Yeah if you follow the FDA's guidelines it sure ain't gonna be easy, it's almost guided to make people obese.
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    Mar 03, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
    Onthewaytome saidFrom the article:

    Regrettably, however, the body is more resistant to weight loss than weight gain. Hormones and brain chemicals that regulate your unconscious drive to eat and how your body responds to exercise can make it even more difficult to lose the weight. You may skip the cookie but unknowingly compensate by eating a bagel later on or an extra serving of pasta at dinner.

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/in-obesity-epidemic-whats-one-cookie/


    Lifestyle changes occur over weeks, months, and years. No reason to keep making excuses. Regular people do it every day. We regulate our set points in our behavior. If you continue to behave poorly, your results will reflect that.
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    Mar 03, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    xKorix saidI just eat tons of fat and protein...I'm never hungry icon_smile.gif seriously its not hard to slim down.


    I don't know if it's true for everyone, but I'm with you on that one. Protein and fat sate my appetite for hours, and when I finally do get hungry, the hunger signals are very gentle. A meal loaded carbs, by contrast, will leave me ravenously hungry in less than two hours. I read a lot of the paleo diet blogs, and there is comment after comment from people who have effortlessly lost weight on a paleo diet, even while eating ad libitum.
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    Mar 03, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
    I bet......

    If we gathered up all the people the world over sick and tired of having to listen to you whine about your lack of self discipline and self inflicted weight problems we'd have enough people for everyone to donate a $1 towards paying to have your jaw wired shut.....
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    Mar 03, 2010 10:48 PM GMT
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    xKorix saidI just eat tons of fat and protein...I'm never hungry icon_smile.gif seriously its not hard to slim down.


    I don't know if it's true for everyone, but I'm with you on that one. Protein and fat sate my appetite for hours, and when I finally do get hungry, the hunger signals are very gentle. A meal loaded carbs, by contrast, will leave me ravenously hungry in less than two hours. I read a lot of the paleo diet blogs, and there is comment after comment from people who have effortlessly lost weight on a paleo diet, even while eating ad libitum.


    Carbs cause an insulin response that trails that of the carb decay. That's why fat people ARE hungry when they eat fast carbs and plunge their blood sugar. If you eat slow carbs, and small meals often, that insulin response is much better managed. Many folks that are fat, are fat not so much because they eat excessively but because they fail to manage their insulin, and The Human Machine, in an intelligent way. They're also too lazy to study it, and would rather make excuses than modify their bad behavior.

    Properly managed, insulin can make for great athletic performance and great gains. I've put many pounds of muscle on young men that I've taught how to manage that response appropriately, and one of the reasons I'm as big as I am, and still lean, is that I understand small meals often make for stable blood sugar that creates an anabolic state. Insulin is the most anabolic hormone of all (endogenous, or not), and, when properly managed, makes a huge difference in weight gain / weigh loss and athletic performance, as well as body composition. Carbs are protein sparing, and support muscle, as well as performance along with brain function. Low carb diets are ill-advised as they create metabolic lag, a catabolic state that eats up muscle, and makes it hard to thing straight, or train hard.

    Many folks, especially fat asses, are just too lazy to study what's going on with the machine, and repeat bad behavior.

    At understanding of the glycemic index is crucial to anyone serious about their body composition and training performance.

    If you're physically active, you'll need more carbs. Some folks have genetic markers that slightly alter the way they respond, but, in general, small meals often, with slow carbs (fast carbs after workout) cause a blood sugar level with less deviation.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:07 PM GMT
    Stop eating Americanized fast foods, with all it's advertising; it's making the whole world fat.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
    Onthewaytome,

    You really seem to enjoy being ridiculed. Did you think your post would get a sympathetic ear? We all know it can be difficult to lose weight. If it was easy, everyone would be slim.

    Since you seem to like cookies, I recommend the cookie diet. Google it, there may be an office near you. Good luck.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    trimmedlycan saidOnthewaytome,

    You really seem to enjoy being ridiculed. Did you think you're post would get a sympathetic ear? We all know it can be difficult to lose weight. If it was easy, everyone would be slim.

    Since you seem to like cookies, I recommend the cookie diet. Google it, there may be an office near you. Good luck.


    LMFAO
    aw, poor fat dudes... so hard.... so very hard.... (nomnomnom)
  • Neon_Dreams

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    Mar 03, 2010 11:25 PM GMT
    Go ahead and eat the cookie. I give you permission! But, as for me...I'm sticking to a diet of moderation, across the board. Currently I eat 40/40/20% Carbs, Protein, Fats.

    Just do whatever feels right to you. And, subsequently you will have to live with the consequences of a cookie-reward lifestyle.

    Some of my old friends still eat cookies, sugars and fats in excess (think Venti Starbucks Mocha Shakes every day) and some of them are now seeing doctors regularly for health issues like high blood pressure, diabetes, and even cancer! Health concerns related to obesity? Hmmmmm. I believe so.

    That's my two cents. If you want two more, it will cost you a dollar!


    Joe
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    McGay saidSo, instead of trying so hard, embrace your bulk and find a gay lack-of-fitness site.



    oh wow. burn. haha.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:32 PM GMT
    you know the phrase "diet and exercise?" yeah, it's that simple. don't eat like shit, and get off your ass and do something about it.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    It's certainly not fun to restrict your diet and not eat what you want. I'm sure we all can sympathize and wallow in collective misery about that. People love to gorge themselves on all kinds of food... doesnt make it healthy. (Yes, I could eat 1/4 a key lime pie, or an entire row of oreos in a night).

    BUT.... Sometimes you just have to say no. You skip the sweets aisle at the grocery store. You eat low or non fat dairy products. You add fruits and vegetables and subtract unnecessary carbs. Etc, etc, etc. Keep things simple...

    My sister lost 60 lbs. It took her 4 years. But she did it, and she kept it off. It wasnt a special diet, it wasnt a magic pill, it wasnt anything secretive. She started running several miles a week. And, she simply reduced her portions and she ate healthier. She still has a piece of pie every now and then. Its just smaller. She went from a full ladies size 16 to a perfect size 8. She looks wonderful and she enjoys life.

    Its frustrating to break old habits, but if you want results you have to stick to the program. The article you sent out seems to show that you feel like its a hopeless effort to try and make these changes. Let me assure you that it is not hopeless. You've seen how the queens on these forums give you shit and berate you... (apparently gay men and empathy arent commonly associated)... however their unkind words will do nothing to motivate you. That must come from within. It must also come from a realistic expectation that you arent gonna drop all the weight in a month.

    Make it about being healthier. Make other goals like lowering your cholesterol and resting heart rate. Have goals for how quickly you'd like to be able to walk/run a mile, 2, 3, 4 miles.

    My mother now has a pacemaker after her heart went haywire for no apparent reason. But, she gets up in the morning and walks 4-6 miles with a couple of ladies she knows from church. She hasnt lost much weight, but the doctors have seen improvements in her cardiovascular health.

    The gay world is all about superficial looks. Yes, I am certainly sucked into that. This website seems to revolve around that. But you/we must realize that tehre's more to life, health and fitness than having a set of six pack abs and 20 something inch arms.

    If you do something, do it right, and do it for you.
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    Mar 03, 2010 11:55 PM GMT
    I'm so sick of people talking about how to lose weight blah blah blahhhhhhhhhh... just eat healthier foods, and work out. Continue to do so for the rest of your life. Everyone knows diets don't work, it's about changing your way of living for good, not just temporarily. Wow, did I just come up w/ the new hot diet plan?icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Neon_Dreams

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    Mar 03, 2010 11:57 PM GMT
    JoeB1986 saidI'm so sick of people talking about how to lose weight blah blah blahhhhhhhhhh... just eat healthier foods, and work out. Continue to do so for the rest of your life. Everyone knows diets don't work, it's about changing your way of living for good, not just temporarily. Wow, did I just come up w/ the new hot diet plan?icon_rolleyes.gif


    True!

    Just do it...


    Joe
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    Mar 04, 2010 12:02 AM GMT
    McGay saidYou will be seated at the right hand of McGay.

    I hope we can eat cookies!! icon_biggrin.gif
  • swimbikerun

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    Mar 04, 2010 12:18 AM GMT
    Hence the need to track caloric intake and expenditure. Bagels are quite high in calories with an average large bagel at around 300 calories. That'd take me almost 30min of running to burn off.
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    Mar 04, 2010 12:21 AM GMT
    Uhh, why are we entertaining this thread? Isnt the OP well known for his posts? aka self-defeating and attention seeking?

    Eat less, Sweat more
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    Mar 04, 2010 12:23 AM GMT
    RST2009 saidUhh, why are we entertaining this thread? Isnt the OP well known for his posts? aka self-defeating and attention seeking?

    Eat less, Sweat more
    We post in hope that fatbashing will do someone somewhere some good.
  • calibro

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    Mar 04, 2010 12:29 AM GMT
    The problem can be easily avoided. You should always know what you're eating in terms of how much you consume. I weigh all my food so it doesn't matter how many cookies I pass it, I can't compensate because I don't let me self deviate from my caloric managing.