This was a shocker!

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    Mar 06, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    Marie Osmond's Child was Gay

    Marie Osmond's poor gay son killed himself

    because he had been told how wrong and how sick he was every day of his life by his church and the people in it. Calling that "depression" is a lie!
    Yet the Osmonds still talk lovingly about their church, saying nothing about its extremely anti-gay Crusade. Marie also has a gay daughter! Hey, I want her and all the gay kids in the world to know that they are just fine being gay and that they deserve love and respect instead of insults and rebuke! I have gay people in my family and my circle of friends and I am kicking bigot ass and taking names!
    That is how its done in my religion---(I have my own religion that I made up for myself and it is a great religion that actually works and respects facts and not fantasy!)
    Gerald Lund one of the ex church apostles has three gay kids himself.
    Yet, even though the people they say they love the most in all of their public displays and speeches (THEIR KIDS AND FAMILY!!) are gay,-- their own children,for crying out loud- these people cannot find the christian decency and compassion within themselves to stop their hypocritical gay bashing!!
    How sickening. I know so many mormon kids who were gay and committed suicide, and I just cannot and will not stay quiet in order to not offend bigots anymore. It is all so terribly depressing.
    Marie please don't talk about how your faith in your church has helped you get through this one! Please get some integrity and tell that church of yours that you will leave it and stop giving it ten percent of your money if they don't stop trying to destroy your kids' and all gay people's civil rights and dreams and hopes!!
    G-d is trying to use you for something good and this is your opportunity! Your church is wrong and on the wrong wrong wrong side of things! Get as vocal about that as you are about your diet. G-d bless you too, Marie.
    Take a hard look at the facts now as you use this very sad time for introspection, healing growth and prayer, and become a strong symbol for loving mothers who make no apologies for hatred against their own kids!


    http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/2010/03/marie_osmonds_poor_gay_son_kil.php
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:22 AM GMT
    Hey Johnny, it was for your same reasons that we went after G_Force, because there are young men coming here contemplating suicide, and the last thing they should have to deal with on a gay site are people like him.

    "Homosexuality is a sin" drips with the blood of teen suicides.

    in shared grief, - your friends Doug and Bill
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:23 AM GMT
    Mystic_Man saidMarie Osmond's Child was Gay

    Marie Osmond's poor gay son killed himself

    because he had been told how wrong and how sick he was every day of his life by his church and the people in it. Calling that "depression" is a lie!
    Yet the Osmonds still talk lovingly about their church, saying nothing about its extremely anti-gay Crusade. Marie also has a gay daughter! Hey, I want her and all the gay kids in the world to know that they are just fine being gay and that they deserve love and respect instead of insults and rebuke! I have gay people in my family and my circle of friends and I am kicking bigot ass and taking names!
    That is how its done in my religion---(I have my own religion that I made up for myself and it is a great religion that actually works and respects facts and not fantasy!)
    Gerald Lund one of the ex church apostles has three gay kids himself.
    Yet, even though the people they say they love the most in all of their public displays and speeches (THEIR KIDS AND FAMILY!!) are gay,-- their own children,for crying out loud- these people cannot find the christian decency and compassion within themselves to stop their hypocritical gay bashing!!
    How sickening. I know so many mormon kids who were gay and committed suicide, and I just cannot and will not stay quiet in order to not offend bigots anymore. It is all so terribly depressing.
    Marie please don't talk about how your faith in your church has helped you get through this one! Please get some integrity and tell that church of yours that you will leave it and stop giving it ten percent of your money if they don't stop trying to destroy your kids' and all gay people's civil rights and dreams and hopes!!
    G-d is trying to use you for something good and this is your opportunity! Your church is wrong and on the wrong wrong wrong side of things! Get as vocal about that as you are about your diet. G-d bless you too, Marie.
    Take a hard look at the facts now as you use this very sad time for introspection, healing growth and prayer, and become a strong symbol for loving mothers who make no apologies for hatred against their own kids!


    http://www.roseanneworld.com/blog/2010/03/marie_osmonds_poor_gay_son_kil.php



    Perhaps we should all be proud of who we are!!
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:25 AM GMT
    Nicely and passionately done, Johnny. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    meninlove said Hey Johnny, it was for your same reasons that we went after G_Force, because there are young men coming here contemplating suicide, and the last thing they should have to deal with on a gay site are people like him.

    "Homosexuality is a sin" drips with the blood of teen suicides.

    in shared grief, - your friends Doug and Bill


    Oh I must write my book. I have lived through all this myself. I am a survivor. You see...well...no need to confess it all now...yet I am here and life is good and I am grateful for guys like you who helped me along the way.

    Is G_Force still here?
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:32 AM GMT
    No, he's gone.

    The casual cruelty of the supposed faithful is mind-numbing. Christ tried to teach them something, and instead of understanding that the crucifix is a giant stop sign, they continue to do it day after day year after year.


    It would be so cool if we all lived closer.


    xo -us
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    Mar 06, 2010 6:48 AM GMT
    Today, I had a nice discussion with my neighbor who know things. She knows about me and my loved ones. I told her that my passion to be in the area has faded. I said that I was tired of the rampant bad mouthing that I get and the negative things other say. I told her I wanted out and that I was going to be gone ALL of the summer.

    Big tears filled her eyes and then she said, But "Johnny who will bring me flowers?" I take her flowers because her husband died about 2 years ago. She is cool and funny and always sticks up for me with all my ...????.. neighbors. So I said, well I just need to go for a few months so I can write my books and do some other things. I told her I will still send her flowers. icon_biggrin.gif
  • Webster666

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    Mar 06, 2010 8:02 AM GMT
    That's one of the terrible tragedies of the disgusting Mormon religion.
    I have a friend who grew up in the Mormon faith.
    When he was a teenager, he had to choose between the church and his homosexuality.
    He was wise enough to know that only the church was a choice.
    He couldn't change or deny being gay.
    But, several members of his family (nephews) have committed suicide.
  • RSportsguy

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    Mar 06, 2010 1:44 PM GMT
    What a heartbreaking story! I am so glad that Roseanne is on our side!
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    Mar 06, 2010 3:32 PM GMT
    It always seems strange to me how some self proclaimed "Christians" promote hate and intolerance when, in my opinion, that is the exact opposite of what Christianity is all about.
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    Mar 06, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    sashaman saidIt always seems strange to me how some self proclaimed "Christians" promote hate and intolerance when, in my opinion, that is the exact opposite of what Christianity is all about.



    Sadly, some people create God in their own image.....icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 06, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    Well my 93 year Old granny is a Mormon, and she has never ever shown me anything but love and care and respect. I myself spent many years as a Mormon, I've walked away with good things in my life from that religion, and try to apply to my daily living' all be it if I want a drink, or to have a smoke, I will.

    But when I sent off my letter of resignation, I was very clear to my Bishope when he call me, that I'm 100% homosexual, but have a strong morel code too. He never acted on my request to have my name removed. But he did warn me, there are members who would have issues with that, but he seemed caring and supportive.

    I'm so grateful of to of had the Mormons in my life as a child and a youth. I can see that now I've growen up, because I was to learn things from them, I would never of learned from the community I was supposedly born into.

    Many young homosexual have issues about their sexuality, and religion has never been apart of their lives; most youth have insecurities, it's all apart of being young. Because the way the gay community is projected, and projects itself is not all positive. So maybe the gay community too needs to take some claim to damage it has done to it's youth. I know if I never seen homosexual's, Gay men carelessly killing each other, because they did not want to deprive their dick of enjoyment and miss out on the party. If I was not a witness to all that first hand in my youth. I know I would be diffrent today, as it's had an everlasting effect on me, seeing gay people so carelessly giving each other a deadly infection.

    But my heart is not full of hate towards these people, not even the ones who deliberately tried to infect me and give me a slow death too. Nor is my heart full of hate for the Mormons either. But.........I do not have a religion, as I don't need one, nor do I have a place in the gay community anymore either, and that what I told my Bishope too.
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    Mar 06, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    meninlove said Hey Johnny, it was for your same reasons that we went after G_Force, because there are young men coming here contemplating suicide, and the last thing they should have to deal with on a gay site are people like him.

    "Homosexuality is a sin" drips with the blood of teen suicides.

    in shared grief, - your friends Doug and Bill


    Yes indeed you guys where in the pack of wolves who hounded him. Just because you can justify your actions in your own minds, still dose not make them right. I've also endured your stalking, and you trying too force your own view of Political Correctness on me.

    May I ask who is passive, and who is aggressive?
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    Mar 06, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
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    meninlove said Hey Johnny, it was for your same reasons that we went after G_Force, because there are young men coming here contemplating suicide, and the last thing they should have to deal with on a gay site are people like him.

    "Homosexuality is a sin" drips with the blood of teen suicides.

    in shared grief, - your friends Doug and Bill


    Yes indeed you guys where in the pack of wolves who hounded him. Just because you can justify your actions in your own minds, still dose not make them right. I've also endured your stalking, and you trying too force your own view of Political Correctness on me.

    May I ask who is passive, and who is aggressive?


    G_Force needed to learn really. He needs to know that so many suffer. meninlove (they are teachers and defenders of your feelings and your emotions) only reach out to show the happy trail. No need to ever get personal with them. They are sincerely good!
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    Mar 06, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
    Aww that is really sad icon_cry.gif
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    Mar 06, 2010 10:14 PM GMT
    Mystic_Man said
    Pattison said
    meninlove said Hey Johnny, it was for your same reasons that we went after G_Force, because there are young men coming here contemplating suicide, and the last thing they should have to deal with on a gay site are people like him.

    "Homosexuality is a sin" drips with the blood of teen suicides.

    in shared grief, - your friends Doug and Bill


    Yes indeed you guys where in the pack of wolves who hounded him. Just because you can justify your actions in your own minds, still dose not make them right. I've also endured your stalking, and you trying too force your own view of Political Correctness on me.

    May I ask who is passive, and who is aggressive?


    G_Force needed to learn really. He needs to know that so many suffer. meninlove (they are teachers and defenders of your feelings and your emotions) only reach out to show the happy trail. No need to ever get personal with them. They are sincerely good!


    Johnny if thats the way you see things, thats OK with me. But it was they who got personal first. Before that I really never noticed them, albeit I had communicated once or twice, but since they have stalked one, trying to force their political view on one,and to repress one. Once they start paying the mortgage, I may then consider them to behold this right, but never before.

    But G-force was entitled to his view, after all these are a forum for diffrent views. Yet like a lot of religus people the left wing too want too control peoples freedoms, like speech, even in a forum that is there for openness,, and diffrent views. Some want to controle the views that are put out there and I rebel against that kind of censorship, as people like Hitler thrived on that kind of controle over others. I recall reading a comment sometime ago, where it seemed someone implied they had had a dog killed and they were hounded out of their neighborhood, and the person seemed to understand why that came to pass, yet they have hounded people out of RJ, they just can't get to their dog.

    Do they hound people who will hold the person view they don't find twinks or fems attractive, this too must have some impact on some of the youth here too, albeit many youth hold this view too. Yet it's a very commion view here to have. Since they are not accepting of all views what right do they have to force their view on other, and gang up on others with a diffrent view? Yes I may not agree with all here and I don't. But I don't really try to stop them from having a diffrent view, or care that they do. In fact I'll flip the coin to see a diffrent view. I don't see a bisexual man as a Gay man certainly if they lived most of their life as a married straight person and receive all the privileges of one too. But this does not mean I do not have love for some guys here who have had a wife and child too.

    Sorry but I myself don't see them as the good guys. I see them as passive and aggressive, and thats from personal experience.


    Oh and I don't stand on a pedestal, as I too am not accepting of all things. I just don't have a rotting soul, in fact mine sings of joy. Even be it my soul-mate was murdered just before Christmas, I'm still out there making other laugh, and putting a smile on their face.

    God bless you my brother.

    Time for me to go and watch Ice Age 3, before I go to work, and spread my love and joy,and this is what I'm seen doing as a homosexual.
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    Mar 06, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    hmmm...Pattison, do you remember, long ago, after we arrived, a topic was started deliberately aimed at you? Do you remember how bad it was, and how bitterly you complained on that topic?

    Do you remember when it abruptly vanished and you remarked on it?

    I'll say no more about that , except that you've said some pretty unprovoked ghastly stuff about the country and people south of us, and we remarked on it and your behaviour several times when it came up.

    (After all, you are the one that proudly states you are full with nothing but love and kindness for all.)


    For that, we're suddenly persecutors trying to stop your free speech. Yet your own words about us are an attempt to stop ours. It works both ways my friend. icon_wink.gif

    -Doug
  • grnranger99

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    Mar 06, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    " I do like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ"......Ghandi
    Goes for the Mormons as well......
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    Mar 06, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
    I was caring for this little old lady the other night, getting her ready to settle for the night, and she said something about "all the poofters (Aussie slang for homosexual) out there. "

    I was to asked with a smil on my face, and silently pissing myself laughing. "But what poofter?"

    "The ones out there" she side.

    The she said "you know they have all done the course !"

    "What course?" I was to ask trying not to laugh.icon_lol.gif

    The "poofters course" she was to reply.icon_razz.gificon_lol.gif

    The she told me "they don't have a horse's hoof" an old Aussie slang for homosexual, " but a camels toe!" well that was the end of me I was icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_cool.gif

    But I also work with a 21 year old homosexual, and he and I do get on well. he has had little exposure to the gay scene, and asks whats the gay community anyway? He gets strength for my openness, and the positive way most people treat me as a homosexual, I well loved and accepted and he has seen this first hand.

    But because of his lack of life experiences dew to his youth, and his very own insecurity about his own sexuality, all some-one has to do is ask, and he takes it as an attack. I'm not sure he would of dealt with the little old lady as well as I did. I don't think he would of seen the funny side of it either. But thats not her fault, nor religions. In fact he has just never see the gay community (and I agree whatever that is) project it's self on mass in a positive way, as with their parades

    So the left wing really needs to stop putting all the blame on the right wing, and conservative homosexuals, and own it's own responsibility too, it's not all the Mormon's or religions, or the republicans, or the right wings fault. The left wing, the liberals have a trail of destruction behind them too, and that trail I witnessed in the 80s first hand, is tattooed in my memory.
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    Mar 07, 2010 4:08 AM GMT
    thanks for the link Mystic.
    *logging on to Rosaennes' blog to thank her as well.


    Terrible, the media is only saying he battled depression and not telling the truth.
    Once her blog goes Viral it will be a different story.
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    Mar 07, 2010 5:17 AM GMT
    Not to mimimize the possibility, but what is the source? I am going to be bold and say a blog entry on Roseanne's website has limited credibility.

    The young man killed himself, the gay community trying use this as a battle cry is in very poor taste.
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    Mar 07, 2010 5:22 AM GMT
    Sleepy_Fisherman saidVery, very sad!

    I'm sure that many of us can relate to a time in our lives when the rejection was severe and the pain was unbearable. All we longed for was peace. I remember "Sylas" recently posting on his severe depression and spiritual bankruptcy. My heart goes out to all the LBGT people who are struggling even now.

    The crimes that churches have committed against LBGT people in the name of G-d reminds me of a quote by Martin Luther King Jr...

    "Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal."


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    Mar 07, 2010 5:26 AM GMT
    Ya, I think that he was depressed. Maybe gay too, but depression is what got him.My partner was the most fun loving man, but he couldn't deal with life. I had no idea how bad it was. How unattached he really was. He killed himself. That was a very long time ago. I still wake up in the middle of the night crying wondering what could I have done. Surely I could have done something. It torments me............it always will. It is always in the back of my mind.
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    Mar 07, 2010 6:25 AM GMT
    It's true friends and even if it wasn't so that he is GAY...he still dealt with to much and it can all be avoided .......how???

    With a few things like this I just sent to someone here:

    It's my quest to share, teach and assist others to help young people who struggle with their sexuality (or anything they have to deal with)!

    It's not that complicated...love....communication...understanding with out ANY conditions or pressure!!

    That's the cure


    You see we had a very high ranking individual here in my town who's SON killed him self also. I know these people...if I could have just said...LOVE HIM and not PRESSURE HIM!! He hung him self to death and I know 2 others....and I personally helped divert a young 18 year old just last week....it's mind boggling!!
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    Mar 07, 2010 6:28 AM GMT
    Sad news about Marie's son, particuarly since I always suspected that one of his uncles was gay. That would be the youngest Osmond, Jimmy - he gave off a particularly strong vibe on one reunion talk show years ago when he commented on sixties Christmas home movies by noting with a very Paul Lynde cadence "We always overdid the tinsel." Once when his mother Olive was asked to describe her children in one word she tellingly hesitated before referring to Jimmy as "my little businessman." I wondered then whether The Osmonds, being in show biz, were gay friendly and didn't follow Mormon edicts to the letter, or whether he still had a tough time. Now Jimmy's married; was I wrong (buying into masculine/femme archetypes) or is he really a gay man who bowed to the pressures of church and fame? And if he did bow, imagine how he must feel given his nephew's suicide if he could have been the boy's sole gay Mormon role model.