Photoshoot! Nervous! Help!

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    Mar 07, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    Hi,

    So, here's the deal. In December I went to a party at a very notable photographer's house in LA. He asked me to do a photo session with him. I was flattered, of course. However, I was heavier than I'd been in years. I was depressed and 15 pounds overweight. I hid it well, but it was there. So I asked for some time to hit the gym.

    Since then, I've lost ten pounds and two inches off my waist and gained a half inch on my arms and chest. I look and feel much better. However, this session will involve me being shirtless for some shots, and I want these photos to be the best they possibly can be. I'm feeling some pressure, especially after seeing the gorgeous bodies of most of the people he photographs.

    Now the moment of truth has nearly arrived. I'll be flying out to LA the weekend of the 19th for the shoot. So I have about ten days left. But I still want to lose a half inch off of my waist. My love handles have always been my weak spot, and with a narrow chest, I always felt I looked kinda boxy. I really want a good chest/waist ratio.

    So, I'm asking you guys- what can I do to drop some weight before the shoot without losing muscle? It's been hard to find any practical diet advice by just googling. Any models, wrestlers or bodybuilders want to share some advice?

    Help a nervous guy out!

    -JohnnyGuitar
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    Mar 07, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    Dude, you do NOT need to lose any weight.... don't kid yourself!
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    Mar 07, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    For whatever it is worth, I think you look great. I wouldn't stress over the photo shoot.
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    Mar 07, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
    I think it's unhealthy, but I know some of them shed water quickly in the days beforehand. Not sure what they use to do it.
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    Mar 08, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    What sort of photo shoot?

    In the images in you profile, you look very thin. I certainly wouldn't be worried about any weight gain. That would be the normal thing to happen to a man of 24. Your testosterone peaks around 27 to 31.

    Here's the standard weight chart for sedentary people. Athletes, and in particular, folks who work out will weigh considerably MORE.

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    Your perspective is a bit off. 11 inches arms, well, I read your profile and says you're up to 13, are very small for someone who trains and is 24 years old. You're tiny, Bud. A 31 waist would be about right for someone your height. Just as a point of reference, I'm 5'5, and have a 48 chest and 19 inch arms. Sure, I'm bigger than most, but, not THAT much bigger. Logan / flex89, who lives with me, has 18.5 inch arms, and he just turned 21.

    I sure wouldn't defeat your training efforts by starvation. If you haven't already, you're gonna' have your metabolism turned into a fat-storing, calorie-conserving, machine which is NOT what you want.

    From reading your profile, it looks like you're now trying to sabotage your own efforts to make gains.
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    Mar 08, 2010 1:16 AM GMT
    Thanks for the encouragement, guys. It's nice to hear.

    I don't think I'm a fat pig or anything. I look pretty good. Just, when I see pictures this guy's taken like this....

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    ...it makes a person feel a little insecure. But I know I'm not a professional model, and no one expects me to be. I'm just trying to look as good as I can.

    I guess I'll just do 1800-2000 calories a day and try to make most of it lean protein, cut down on carbs (but not cut out completely), and run about two miles each day, which is what I've been doing anyway.

    @chuckystud- you're right, I am a tiny guy. This is the biggest my muscles have ever been (And my arms are only 11 1/2 right now! Not even 13!) I know I'll never put in the effort needed for really impressive gains- honestly, thirteen inch biceps and a 40 inch chest would be totally cool with me.

    But you're right, I don't want to end up putting my body into ketosis or something, and losing muscle, or even gaining weight. That's what I was talking about. Dieting without getting all eating disorder-y.

    (Just so you guys know, I feel kind of embaressed fussing about my weight this much. The stuff on my page is kind of blahblahblahblah, but I don't really expect anyone to read it. It's just for me to keep myself on track. I'm not trying to force compliments from people, I was just hoping for a little practical advice, because I'm still very, very green at this bodybuilding stuff.)
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    Mar 08, 2010 1:20 AM GMT
    :-) It's o.k. It sounds like you're in touch here.

    You need to study up on carbing up, and drying out, for shoots. It's all how you manipulate water balance. It's all science.

    Sagi Kalev taught me. (Sagi is awesome.) If you're serious, find an expert, but, ya' gotta' keep eating. "Fuel the furnace."

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:23 AM GMT
    This is really, really, really, carbed up...bursting at the seams...

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:24 AM GMT
    This is "dry", but, just a bit of fat.

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:25 AM GMT
    This is dry, with the need for just a tiny bit more carbs....

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:26 AM GMT
    This is "loading" and on the way to the stage...in about 3 days.

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:27 AM GMT
    To really be good, you have to understand how electrolytes and carbs interact in the way that you appear....

    It's all science...peaking on at a given moment in time.

    For the cosmetics of photo shoots and bodybuilding you have to employ a comprehensive understanding of the human machine, and its interactions. You have to study the craft.
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    Mar 08, 2010 1:30 AM GMT
    stop posting photos of yourself. yikes...ego much?
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    Mar 08, 2010 1:32 AM GMT
    Sam31488 saidstop posting photos of yourself. yikes...ego much?


    It's not about ego, but, about showing how it's all science, but, you're so tied up in the shot, you miss the science.

    It's o.k. If you'd like to ignore my posts, please do so.

    Your youthful ignorance is unbecoming.

    For shoots, and contests, you manipulate that water balance, probably as much as anything, to achieve a full, but, defined, look. To much water, and you "spill." To little water and you "go flat."

    The real life images should help the perception of the original poster, and, hopefully, will both educate him, and encourage further discovery.

    My trainer (one of my trainers, actually), Sagi Kalev, has been on the cover of Muscle and Fitness more than any man alive. I can't imagine having a more experienced coach.
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    Mar 08, 2010 1:43 AM GMT
    It's cool guys!

    Let's not fight. :-)

    I get it, you're just showing me about drying out. And honestly, I think that's important, because I'll vary anywhere from 154 to 157 in the span of two days, and think that's mostly water. So if I can "dry out" to the lower end of that, where I do look more ripped, or at least less love handle-y, I'd be a happy camper.

    I've just been looking at this article-

    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_diet_mass/shredded_in_6_days

    and I plan on looking at a few more.

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    Mar 08, 2010 1:54 AM GMT
    There you go...:-)
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    Mar 08, 2010 2:15 AM GMT
    You look great in your current pics. You will do fine on the shoot. You won't believe what a good photographer can do. He will make you look better than you believe you can look. Don't sweat it at all. The more relaxed and at ease you are on the shoot will transfer into the pics. Enjoy this!! Good luck!
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    Mar 08, 2010 2:17 AM GMT
    just say 'no'
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    Mar 08, 2010 6:55 AM GMT
    Thanks everybody for your help and advice. I'll keep on my diet and exercise regimen, but mostly I'll just chill and not try to do anything too drastic, ie. master cleanse or something.

    I'm interested in the 'drying', but I'm a little wary- I've never done it before and I don't want to fuck up and end up looking bloated.

    But basically, I've already done the work and lost fat and packed some muscle, and now I just need to be confident.

    Thanks again everyone.
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    Mar 08, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    In my young days I did a bit of modeling (didn't we all..?) and as I can see that you are getting yourself into a hype of nutrition and workout routines.. trust me, it took me a looooooooong time to actually put on some meat and it won't happen from zero to hero if you get my drift. Take your time and you will see better results. As my father always used to say: no master ever just fell from the skies...

    The fact that the photographer asked you for the shoot may well be that he has a certain setting in mind. Transforming yourself might not be what he had in mind for the shoot. Talk to him, if you get the chance, about the setting. If he wants to shoot only the godly bods, then you may want to give him chuckystud's contact details but I think you will be just fine.

    I understand your concerns though. We all want to look our best (which is usually an image we copy from seeing some great guy in some great magazine and usually pretty unrealistic given the fact that what went into that particular body in terms of time at the gym, cosmetics, then the shoot, retouches in photoshop, etc. are a lot of resources that one has to have first).

    In short, don't worry, you'll do just fine and I am sure that you will get some great pics coming out of this. Post them here for us all to see. From what I can see you have supporters here! icon_smile.gif All the best and good luck!
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    Mar 16, 2010 4:48 AM GMT
    The memories these forums are stirring! Ken Haak once offered to photograph me if I spent a few months working on my abs. Never did. Imagine the bragging rights I'd have eventually had in the retirement home.

    You're a better man than I. Go for it!