Child Forced out of School Because her Parents are Gay

  • GQjock

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    Mar 09, 2010 11:26 AM GMT
    You got it ....
    Once again it's the Catholics
    They force a child out of school because the kid has two lesbian Mommies
    It's good that the community is up in arms about this but
    it's part and parcel of a Bogus set of religious hate that all religions force on us

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    Mar 09, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    Albeit I'm not saying I agree with this action, but non the less it is a private institution. Thus said, catholic Schools albeit private, do receive a shit load of public fund too, down here in Oz anyway. But down here they also have been known to refuse a child because their heterosexual parents live in sin.
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    Mar 09, 2010 1:16 PM GMT
    It's funny that Catholics don't force out parents who have been divorced, or cheated on partner, but the gays can be forced out. It's the inconsistencies that kill me.

    But...

    Why do these women want their kid to go to Catholic school? I went to catholic school and the shame they instilled in me for being gay was so severe I almost killed myself just 18 months after I graduated from Catholic high school. Why any sane gay person would put their child in Catholic school is beyond me. I know they offer lots of AP courses and discipline, but you can get that at a host of other private schools as well.
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    Mar 09, 2010 1:23 PM GMT
    But the Pope is gay, as are all his cardinals and a good percentage of priests. They are all gay gay gay gay gay. Those who are not gay are pedophiles. Some are both, but not a one is the paragon of virtue they want people to think they are. Il Papa - J'accuse you filthy motherfucker.
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    Mar 09, 2010 2:27 PM GMT
    Pattison saidAlbeit I'm not saying I agree with this action, but non the less it is a private institution. Thus said, catholic Schools albeit private, do receive a shit load of public fund too, down here in Oz anyway. But down here they also have been known to refuse a child because their heterosexual parents live in sin.


    If they accept public funds, they should be made to abide by public policy. Oh and it'd be nice if they paid some taxes once in a while... just saying...
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    Mar 09, 2010 2:29 PM GMT
    Glad to hear the community is up in arms. It will be public pressure that causes these kind of bigoted behaviors to change....

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    Mar 09, 2010 2:32 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidGlad to hear the community is up in arms. It will be public pressure that causes these kind of bigoted behaviors to change....

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    No it won't, sadly. The CC doesn't have to care what the public thinks.
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    Mar 09, 2010 3:49 PM GMT
    In Ireland, the congregation is being asked to dig a little deeper into their pockets in order to pay for all the litigation the RCC has been targeted with over their raping of children.
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    Mar 09, 2010 3:50 PM GMT
    In Germany, there's a new scandal involving child rape in a choir in which the Poop's brother is involved.
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    Mar 09, 2010 3:53 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidGlad to hear the community is up in arms. It will be public pressure that causes these kind of bigoted behaviors to change....

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    Why should an institution that's divinely inspired and infallible need to change anything? You don't mess with what's already perfect. It's everybody else who's wrong. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 09, 2010 4:03 PM GMT
    Child Forced out of School Because her Parents are Gay

    As a private religious institution they may be able to do this. But then I wonder if they are then obliged to expel any other non-Catholic students, who do not conform with Church teachings?

    In the past, Church schools have allowed Protestant and Jewish students to attend, and who are clearly from homes where RCC doctrine does not prevail. (I'm not sure about any Muslim or Buddhist students being admitted)

    If these non-Catholic students may remain, that invalidates the doctrinal arguments used against the lesbian parents of this student. Some doctrine gets you expelled, but other selected doctrinal differences are OK?

    The ACLU may have some fun with that one. Although here again, the courts may rule that religious freedom gives the RCC the right to not only disregard discrimination laws, but also the laws of fairness, common sense and hypocrisy, in violating their own arguments. To paraphrase Mel Brooks: "It's good to be the Pope!"
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    Mar 09, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
    McGay saidIn Ireland, the congregation is being asked to dig a little deeper into their pockets in order to pay for all the litigation the RCC has been targeted with over their raping of children.


    The church's stance. If raping children was wrong, why wouldn't God stop it? If it's God's chosen who are doing the raping, then seeking legal action against them is a sin!
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    Mar 09, 2010 4:12 PM GMT

    May I ask why a gay couple would send their child to a school where that child will be taught homosexuality is a sin? Especially a private one where it's possible the parents have to pay for that child's education?

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    Mar 09, 2010 4:41 PM GMT
    I like how this isn't about the child's education at all. Really the only ones who are hurting in this situation is the kid and the school, since they lost however much money it is to go there.

    I can understand this more I guess if the child was gay, but the parents? Why do they matter honestly? They are just paying the school.
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    Mar 09, 2010 4:47 PM GMT


    hmmm...a gay couple putting their child in a situation like that where that child could be ridiculed, and/or is forced to constantly defend their parents doesn't sound like a good thing for a child to start with.

    -Doug
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    Mar 09, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    McGay saidIn Ireland, the congregation is being asked to dig a little deeper into their pockets in order to pay for all the litigation the RCC has been targeted with over their raping of children.


    I'm Irish and you'll be glad to know that nobody, not even the little old ladies trust the church anymore or are giving them extra cash. I know some genuinely good priests (I went to a catholic boarding school and I got a lot of support when I came out). I am not catholic but I feel bad for all the good people that exist in the church, because believe it or not, they do exist. -And yes, the pope is........probably not such a good guy.
  • tennsjock

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    Mar 10, 2010 8:08 AM GMT
    Didn't Dante places on of the Popes in hell?
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    Mar 10, 2010 1:05 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    hmmm...a gay couple putting their child in a situation like that where that child could be ridiculed, and/or is forced to constantly defend their parents doesn't sound like a good thing for a child to start with.

    -Doug

    You raise good questions of logic. Logic, of course, often has no place in issues regarding human behavior. And lesbionic behavior, well... But let's pretend, since I haven't seen all the facts yet, just that video clip.

    I've known parents who've sent their children to RCC schools to get a "better" education, believing their own local public schools to be inferior. I'm not sure about Denver, Colorado, maybe this school was just physically closer for this preschooler, or whether the other preschool options were very bad.

    Second, some parents, even lesbians, want to raise their children as Catholics. The RCC itself encourages Catholic parents to send their children to Church schools rather than public, as they did when I was school age. In fact, in Catholic school we were told not to associate with public school students outside of class, who might be sinful Protestants, or even, God forbid, Jews. That was actually taught to us.

    If I had school-age children again (as I did twice), I'd send them to whatever school offered them a good total education. In the US Army, and moving around a great deal, sometimes that meant a post-provided preschool, other times a public school. I never really had a good private school option.

    And I not only attended all the parent-teacher conferences, but picked up my sons whenever I could, or else my wife did, and spoke with the teacher regularly. And frankly, sometimes I "snooped" around the school (after signing in), and in that way learned my oldest son wasn't adapting well to being relocated to so many different schools in a very short time, because of my Army career.

    And so I had him evaluated by a child psychologist, who identified me as part of the problem, and not long afterwards retired. My health was already failing, yet I could have stayed on active duty a little longer, but at his expense. So I retired and spent much of my new free time with him, as the doctor prescribed.

    So Doug, parents will often do things they think are for the good of their children, even if it's not readily apparent to outsiders. Was that the case here? I can't say, but I consider it possible. Myself, I'd never send a child to an RCC school, which is as much indoctrination as education, like many religious schools. But maybe these parents were focused on the education part, and thought a preschooler couldn't be harmed, intending to put her in public school eventually. I'd like to hear or read an interview with them.
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    Mar 10, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
    It's just appalling to me that they take it out on the kid who didn't choose his parents any more than the mothers chose their sexual orientation. I can't help but wonder what Jesus would have said to the children of the lepers and the prostitutes...
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 10, 2010 1:20 PM GMT
    This is a reenactment of the kids getting kicked out of that school: