Is it unhealthy to train to much?

  • maximumrisk

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    Jan 20, 2008 9:33 PM GMT
    Hey guys,

    I just had an Diskussion where my friend(a Doctor) meant that all the training isn´t really healthy after a certain point. If you exceed the normal bodyweight for your height its supposed to be unhealthy. So whats true with that?

    I suppose he knows what he is talking about with 30 Years expirience, but only he might not be up to date.
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    Jan 21, 2008 1:21 AM GMT
    Yes.
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    Jan 21, 2008 1:43 AM GMT
    Absolutely, you can reach a point where your weight can exceed the limits of your joints and bone structure. Larry Scott had 21 inch biceps on a 5' 8" frame, and it hurt his shoulders. He would stand with his thumbs in his front pockets to take the weight off of them. So the answer is yes.
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    Jan 21, 2008 1:47 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidYes.


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    Thx chucky
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    Jan 21, 2008 1:47 AM GMT
    Google on "overtraining."
  • maximumrisk

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    Jan 21, 2008 3:12 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidGoogle on "overtraining."


    I thought that would just be training to hard and getting an negativ effect.
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    Jan 21, 2008 6:54 AM GMT
    maxx10 saidAbsolutely, you can reach a point where your weight can exceed the limits of your joints and bone structure. Larry Scott had 21 inch biceps on a 5' 8" frame, and it hurt his shoulders. He would stand with his thumbs in his front pockets to take the weight off of them. So the answer is yes.
    Joe


    Was Larry Scott the guy whose biceps exploded? I remember watching a documentary of a guy who injected steroids directly into the belly of his bicep (correct me if I'm wrong).
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    Jan 21, 2008 6:58 AM GMT
    yup, I ended up with biceps tendinitis in both arms and it's taken me a year to recover and I still have to be very very careful. And yes chucky, I know I could have cut my recovery time in half with testosterone icon_wink.gif

    I kid, I kid!
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    Jan 21, 2008 8:02 AM GMT
    bcpm said[quote][cite]maxx10 said[/cite]Absolutely, you can reach a point where your weight can exceed the limits of your joints and bone structure. Larry Scott had 21 inch biceps on a 5' 8" frame, and it hurt his shoulders. He would stand with his thumbs in his front pockets to take the weight off of them. So the answer is yes.
    Joe


    Was Larry Scott the guy whose biceps exploded? I remember watching a documentary of a guy who injected steroids directly into the belly of his bicep (correct me if I'm wrong).[/quote]


    Hey BC, long time no chat man.

    It was Greg Valentino.

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    Jan 21, 2008 8:21 AM GMT
    bcpm said[quote]Was Larry Scott the guy whose biceps exploded? I remember watching a documentary of a guy who injected steroids directly into the belly of his bicep (correct me if I'm wrong).


    As a previous poster said, the person you're thinking about is Greg Valentino. And the title of the piece was sensationalist. His biceps did not "explode" - they became infected due to poor sterile technique. And he was not injecting steroids into them, he was using something called synthol, an oil which irritates the muscle causing inflammation and scarring in addition to simply inflating them with fluid. It's stupid and scary stuff, but it is not a steroid, anabolic or otherwise.
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    Jan 21, 2008 8:30 AM GMT
    maximumrisk saidI just had an Diskussion where my friend(a Doctor) meant that all the training isn´t really healthy after a certain point. If you exceed the normal bodyweight for your height its supposed to be unhealthy.


    Like so many things, it's both true and untrue. It is a matter of degree.

    The tables of "normal weights" for individuals are developed from population studies and correlations to general health. While it's easy to see that being obese is risky, and that it is unwise to carry an extra 20 or 30 pounds of body fat, there are few studies that I can find which show that a person carrying an "extra" 20 or 30 pounds of muscle is at similar risk. Part of the unhealthiness stems from what's going on inside your arteries. When someone is fat on the outside, quite frequently they also have bad lipid levels in the blood.

    But things can get out of hand. Look at some of the professional bodybuilders with bodyweights of 235-250 at heights under 5'8". That's a big load to impose on a heart and other organs and on your skeletal system.
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    Jan 21, 2008 4:56 PM GMT
    Actually, it was not AAS, it was just plain old oil. "Pump and Pose" it's called, and it's used to stretch the muscle fascia so that the muscle can grow into it. It's very commonly used by competitors with much success. In the millions of users, there's bound to be a few idiots. He's one of those, but, once, again, it has nothing to do with AAS, but, simply putting to much oil into his biceps.

    "Pump and Pose" works because the fascia can often be a limiting factor in the size of the muscle; a lot like a hot dog casing. If you stretch the casing out, the muscle can then grow into it. It works well. I've seen it used dozens of times, and I know many folks who do it, although, you might have to find them a beer or two to get them to admit it.

    Once again, folks just blowing smoke out their asses.

    Check your facts, before you spread misinformation Boys.
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    Jan 21, 2008 6:41 PM GMT
    "Check your facts, before you spread misinformation Boys."

    - Hence I added "correct me if I'm wrong". It was also a question rather than a statement with concrete facts.

    But thank you for the correct information :-)