Hey I need your help.

  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 17, 2010 3:11 AM GMT
    I'm thinking about getting more serious with my lifitng and I was looking into some proties and stuff and I saw this on the Military base in Germany and here in GNC and I think I'm going to give it a try... http://store.bsnonline.net/ any advice? Have you tried it? Do you like it? Do you recommend something else?

    Thanks icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 17, 2010 3:29 AM GMT
    I've tried creatine pills, testosterone suppliements, protein shakes, whey protein powdershakes and many others in my young naive lifting youth, don't try it, they're all cons, you should need nothing more than a nice healthy protein rich diet to gain muscle. icon_smile.gif

    PS EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT! and eat again! thats all I do! icon_biggrin.gif
  • calibro

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    Mar 17, 2010 6:07 AM GMT
    Dtimshell saidI've tried creatine pills, testosterone suppliements, protein shakes, whey protein powdershakes and many others in my young naive lifting youth, don't try it, they're all cons, you should need nothing more than a nice healthy protein rich diet to gain muscle. icon_smile.gif

    PS EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT! and eat again! thats all I do! icon_biggrin.gif


    umm... whey protein is not a con.

    To the OP, I recommend whey protein, glucosamine, flax seed oil, and a multivitamin. Creatine only has a great effect (that I've observed) on vegetarians/vegans because you ingest it naturally through foods like fish. A theromgenic or energy enhancer like NOXplode can be beneficial, but many people aren't comfortable with it so I would try it out before you drop 60 bucks on a tub you won't use. Creatine is also in NOXplode so be careful not to double up on supplements. But really, the best thing you can put your money toward is a great protein powder/mass gainer (if that's your goal, but I think you're trying to get lean) and eating plenty of healthy food.
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 18, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    calibro said
    Dtimshell saidI've tried creatine pills, testosterone suppliements, protein shakes, whey protein powdershakes and many others in my young naive lifting youth, don't try it, they're all cons, you should need nothing more than a nice healthy protein rich diet to gain muscle. icon_smile.gif

    PS EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT! and eat again! thats all I do! icon_biggrin.gif


    umm... whey protein is not a con.

    To the OP, I recommend whey protein, glucosamine, flax seed oil, and a multivitamin. Creatine only has a great effect (that I've observed) on vegetarians/vegans because you ingest it naturally through foods like fish. A theromgenic or energy enhancer like NOXplode can be beneficial, but many people aren't comfortable with it so I would try it out before you drop 60 bucks on a tub you won't use. Creatine is also in NOXplode so be careful not to double up on supplements. But really, the best thing you can put your money toward is a great protein powder/mass gainer (if that's your goal, but I think you're trying to get lean) and eating plenty of healthy food.



    Well I actually don't believe in using Creatine at all. So thanks for the advice... I think I'll just go to the GNC and ask the guy there questions and stuff Thanks icon_razz.gif
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 18, 2010 7:04 AM GMT
    Dtimshell saidI've tried creatine pills, testosterone suppliements, protein shakes, whey protein powdershakes and many others in my young naive lifting youth, don't try it, they're all cons, you should need nothing more than a nice healthy protein rich diet to gain muscle. icon_smile.gif

    PS EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT! and eat again! thats all I do! icon_biggrin.gif



    LOL eating will get me back to 355 in months and that would be so... Counterproductive
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    Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM GMT
    correction, eat AND workout icon_biggrin.gif
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 18, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    Dtimshell saidcorrection, eat AND workout icon_biggrin.gif



    haha Thank you icon_cool.gif
  • UFJocknerd

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    Mar 19, 2010 12:53 AM GMT
    Space_Cowboy_89 said
    Well I actually don't believe in using Creatine at all. So thanks for the advice... I think I'll just go to the GNC and ask the guy there questions and stuff Thanks icon_razz.gif


    What's required to be a salesperson at GNC?

    https://retail-gnc.icims.com/jobs/4138/job

    I don't see anything speaking to actual knowledge about the products in there. You're way better off doing some reading on physiology and nutrition than buying whatever the kid at the counter says works. :-)

    Mall stores, esp. GNC, are also ridic. expensive.
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    Mar 19, 2010 1:05 AM GMT
    UFJocknerd said
    Space_Cowboy_89 said
    Well I actually don't believe in using Creatine at all. So thanks for the advice... I think I'll just go to the GNC and ask the guy there questions and stuff Thanks icon_razz.gif


    What's required to be a salesperson at GNC?

    https://retail-gnc.icims.com/jobs/4138/job

    I don't see anything speaking to actual knowledge about the products in there. You're way better off doing some reading on physiology and nutrition than buying whatever the kid at the counter says works. :-)

    Mall stores, esp. GNC, are also ridic. expensive.



    word...gnc reps are not nutritionists ....listen to this bitch with a super kewl tatoo on his chest icon_cool.gif
  • Space_Cowboy_...

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    Mar 19, 2010 1:07 AM GMT
    UFJocknerd said
    Space_Cowboy_89 said
    Well I actually don't believe in using Creatine at all. So thanks for the advice... I think I'll just go to the GNC and ask the guy there questions and stuff Thanks icon_razz.gif


    What's required to be a salesperson at GNC?

    https://retail-gnc.icims.com/jobs/4138/job

    I don't see anything speaking to actual knowledge about the products in there. You're way better off doing some reading on physiology and nutrition than buying whatever the kid at the counter says works. :-)

    Mall stores, esp. GNC, are also ridic. expensive.



    Okay thanks for the info. icon_smile.gif and yeah it is super expensive!
  • Hunkymonkey

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    Mar 28, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
    Creatine has some value in that it helps with strength. It does not directly make you grow. Of course, if you are stronger, you can lift heavier and, theoretically, your muscles should grow from adapting to the heavier weights. Creatine used with citrulline malate, beta alanine, and taurine, you will give you a good kick. However, creatine stops being effective after 6 weeks.
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    Mar 28, 2010 11:49 PM GMT
    Hunkymonkey saidCreatine has some value in that it helps with strength. It does not directly make you grow. Of course, if you are stronger, you can lift heavier and, theoretically, your muscles should grow from adapting to the heavier weights. Creatine used with citrulline malate, beta alanine, and taurine, you will give you a good kick. However, creatine stops being effective after 6 weeks.



    ...and gives u cramps......stick to a good protein powder...Reflex is good.
  • FriscoJansen

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    Mar 29, 2010 12:02 AM GMT
    GNC's Extreme 60 Whey Protein always works for me. My only problem is I get really good into my program and I get interrupted by having to travel or some other business. It does really help though, along with eating right. I also use my (GNC's) multi-vitamin and drink Muscle-milk on occasion.
  • UFJocknerd

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    Mar 29, 2010 1:07 PM GMT
    Frisco82 saidGNC's Extreme 60 Whey Protein always works for me. My only problem is I get really good into my program and I get interrupted by having to travel or some other business. It does really help though, along with eating right. I also use my (GNC's) multi-vitamin and drink Muscle-milk on occasion.


    Whey protein is a waste product of the process of making cheese. There are a few bucks worth of materials and process in each container; I'd not pay jacked up prices for it.