Have You Ever Found That Some People Who Ask For Honesty and Openness Are Not Prepared to Give It Themselves?

  • masculumpedes

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    Mar 18, 2010 5:42 AM GMT
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    Mar 18, 2010 6:02 AM GMT
    Yes... and no..
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    Mar 18, 2010 11:03 AM GMT
    Sometimes yes and I have done it as well.
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    Mar 18, 2010 11:46 AM GMT
    lilTanker saidYes... and no..





    True for me .
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    Mar 18, 2010 2:17 PM GMT
    Sounds like you had a bad experience.
  • Timbales

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    Mar 18, 2010 2:21 PM GMT
    I find that many people who pride themselves on their honesty are just assholes who lack tact.
  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
    I believe you have to be able to be brave and have courage to be honest. Honesty is not about being POPULAR and saying what others will find interesting. Honesty is a way of life and primarily you have to be honest with yourself first. If you continue to lie to yourself you will have no problems lying to others.
  • greenlantern1

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    Mar 18, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
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    Yeah, unfortunately..there are a lot of people out there that are that way...I think the worst kind is from people that lead you to believe one thing, and then flip it around..to make it look like you were the one being dishonest...even in regard to feelings..It's frustrating to not be able to trust what signals you get from other people...but maybe that should be a different post..icon_sad.gif
  • greenlantern1

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    Mar 18, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
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    Yeah, unfortunately..there are a lot of people out there that are that way...I think the worst kind is from people that lead you to believe one thing, and then flip it around..to make it look like you were the one being dishonest...even in regard to feelings..It's frustrating to not be able to trust what signals you get from other people...but maybe that should be a different post..icon_sad.gif
  • greenlantern1

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    Mar 18, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
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    Yeah, unfortunately..there are a lot of people out there that are that way...I think the worst kind is from people that lead you to believe one thing, and then flip it around..to make it look like you were the one being dishonest...even in regard to feelings..It's frustrating to not be able to trust what signals you get from other people...but maybe that should be a different post..icon_sad.gif
  • masculumpedes

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    Mar 18, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    greenlantern1 said
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    Yeah, unfortunately..there are a lot of people out there that are that way...I think the worst kind is from people that lead you to believe one thing, and then flip it around..to make it look like you were the one being dishonest...even in regard to feelings..It's frustrating to not be able to trust what signals you get from other people...but maybe that should be a different post..icon_sad.gif


    Thanks Joey.....You're a great guy......icon_wink.gif
  • drypin

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    Mar 18, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
    I smile when people announce or publish that they are "brutally honest". While "brutal" might be a good sign in an S&M scenario, it's hardly bf material.

    To turn your question around, malefeet, I often find that people who ask me, "what do you really feel?" are actually trying the model the behavior they want from me, i.e. they are asking permission to share something with me they think might be sensitive or difficult to hear. If I fail to give them "permission" - through word or body language or otherwise - should I be surprised that I wasn't told those honest thoughts?
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    Mar 18, 2010 4:59 PM GMT
    best thing it to promise them you'll always be completely open and honest , while enjoying the fact you're actually lying to them.

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    Mar 18, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidI find that many people who pride themselves on their honesty are just assholes who lack tact.


    Unfortunately true, and there's a lot of those around.
    To be honest means you speak out the truth for the benefit of the person being told; it does not mean degrading others for your benefit. That's just plain rude and tacky.
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    Mar 18, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    YES!