The Cost of Failure to Enact Health Reform: 2010 - 2020

  • metta

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    Mar 18, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
    The Cost of Failure to Enact Health Reform: 2010 - 2020

    http://www.rwjf.org/files/research/57449overall.pdf


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    The number of uninsured Americans could grow by 10 million people in just five years, and spending on government health care programs for the poor could more than double by 2020, if there are not significant reforms to the current health care system, according to a new analysis just released from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (RWJF).

    Urban Institute researchers used their Health Insurance Policy Simulation Model to assess the changes in coverage patterns and health care costs that will occur nationally from 2010 to 2020 if major reforms are not enacted. The authors provide a range of scenarios to assess the effects. In the worst case:

    * By 2015, there could be 59.7 million people uninsured. The number could swell to 67.6 million by 2020. An estimated 49.4 million individuals were uninsured in 2010.
    * Middle-class households would suffer most without reform, with the percentage of these families without health coverage rising from 19 percent today to 28 percent at decade’s end.
    * As premiums nearly double, employees in small firms would see offers of health insurance almost cut in half, dropping from 41 percent of firms offering insurance in 2010 to 23 percent in 2020.
    * For employers who continued to offer health insurance, more of the costs would likely be passed on to workers. At the same time, individuals and families would face higher out-of-pocket costs for premiums and health care services. Their spending will jump 34 percent by 2015 and 79 percent by 2020.
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  • metta

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    Mar 18, 2010 7:33 PM GMT



    TELL CONGRESS TO FINISH THEIR JOB ON HEALTH CARE REFORM

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  • metta

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    Mar 19, 2010 7:05 AM GMT
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  • azureskyy20

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    Mar 19, 2010 7:15 AM GMT
    metta8 saidTea Partiers Mock And Scorn Apparent Parkinson's Victim



    Yeah..its on the net. There's no way those guys could be liberals in disguise.... If I put on a monkey suit, does that make me a monkey?
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    Mar 19, 2010 4:04 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said


    TELL CONGRESS TO FINISH THEIR JOB ON HEALTH CARE REFORM




    .... and to vote "NO!"


    Should there not be reform? Should insurance companies get to charge whatever they want yet continue to drop people's policies? Should people be denied coverage due to pre-existing conditions which they can not control?
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    I'm sick and tired of the unqualified electorate that supported Bush telling me I'm still wrong!


    P.S. I need to use that on a sign in a rally. When/where is the nearest rally?
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    Mar 19, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    I really do not understand why these health reforms are getting such opposition. The National Health Service here in the UK is one of the best reasons to live in the UK. Last weekend I ended up getting a knock to the head and had to go to the emergency room to get checked out. 12 hours and a CT Scan later I was sent home with a diagnosis and told to rest without a hefty bill that would have crippled me.

    Public health seems logical to allow people access to basic health care and also access to the best medical advice, expertise and technology possible. Private health insurance may work faster but for those without private health insurance, systems like the NHS are fantastic. The NHS saves lives and saves a lot of pain for those that need and choose to use it.
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    2 words: Corporate interest.
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    Mar 19, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said


    TELL CONGRESS TO FINISH THEIR JOB ON HEALTH CARE REFORM




    .... and to vote "NO!"


    Hmmm... another post that fails to offer substance or engage in discussion about an issue.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:51 PM GMT
    No One is again reform....None of us even know what is in this 3000 pages document....I for one can not support something when I dont even know what it entails. How can senate vote on it either, they dont even know whats in it either icon_rolleyes.gificon_evil.gificon_eek.gif
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidNo One is again reform....None of us even know what is in this 3000 pages document....I for one can not support something when I dont even know what it entails. How can senate vote on it either, they dont even know whats in it either icon_rolleyes.gificon_evil.gificon_eek.gif



    This bill has been out since Christmas. You're just bantering a talking point. Actually, it passed the Senate by Christmas. It's been out since late Autumn. What do we call a person who complains about the length of something? Oh yeah. SIZE QUEENS
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
    Excuse me!!....Not with all the secret changes ohsama made behind closed doors....What are they hiding??.....eh?
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidExcuse me!!....Not with all the secret changes ohsama made behind closed doors....What are they hiding??.....eh?



    "ohsama": another talking point!

    But to address your concerns about secrecy, I do think there is a secret push to pass some form of a Public Option. YEAH!!
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    Mar 19, 2010 4:56 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidExcuse me!!....Not with all the secret changes ohsama made behind closed doors....What are they hiding??.....eh?


    Oh Snap! ... you misspelled Obama on purpose! I bet he feels told.

  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 19, 2010 4:58 PM GMT
    Yes siree....I misspelled it purposely....LOL
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    Mar 19, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    Mikeylikesit saidYes siree....I misspelled it purposely....LOL


    MikeyMcFuckWit rules.....

    Check it out, I misspelled yours like you did Obama's I am as cleaver and witty as you! Ohh wait that isn't cleaver it is juvenile.
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    Mar 19, 2010 5:12 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    MonkeyPuck said
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said


    TELL CONGRESS TO FINISH THEIR JOB ON HEALTH CARE REFORM




    .... and to vote "NO!"


    Hmmm... another post that fails to offer substance or engage in discussion about an issue.


    If you want evidence of substance in my discussions of the issues, click on my profile and you have the opportunity to read all of my posts.

    Once you've read them all, come back here and post your retraction.


    My reaction was two your post in this thread that lacked substance. Earlier today I pointed out two basic logical fallacies as well as pointed out another post where you point had little baring on the actual discussion at hand. In the past I have also pointed out how you can't do basic math nor have any under standing of tax code. In all cases mentioned you simply quit responding when called out.

    No retraction needed.
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
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    Mar 19, 2010 5:16 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Reform, yes.

    Unconstitutional government mandates, no.

    This is not the "reform" bill that you all think it is.

    Have you read it (well, it's not possible at this moment to read the final bill, but have you read any of the earlier House versions, i.e. HR 3962?)???

    I've read HR 3962.


    You're wrong. Again. See my post on the other thread about the constitutionality of this bill.

    And you can see the plan online since last night

    http://www.opencongress.org/house_reconciliation
  • coolarmydude

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    Mar 19, 2010 5:24 PM GMT
    Yeah, that has been out since yesterday with a 72-hr notice before a vote and staffers prep the Congressmen/Senators with all the changes. It's not a one-man show like Republicans like to have people believe. Only those with one-track minds would think that.
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    Mar 19, 2010 5:25 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 saidAnd you can see the plan online since last night

    http://www.opencongress.org/house_reconciliation


    That's good! I didn't think it would be up until later today. Time to start reading.... icon_eek.gif


    I've skimmed through quite a bit of it. Honestly, I don't see the problem. It is definitely not a "government takeover." If anything, assures insurance companies clients.