HRC is on lockdown, for fear of protesters

  • metta

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    Mar 20, 2010 1:17 AM GMT
    HRC is on lockdown, for fear of protesters

    http://gay.americablog.com/2010/03/hrc-is-on-lockdown.html
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    Mar 20, 2010 3:26 AM GMT
    Actually... why haven't we thought of this before?

    Time for Joe to stop wasting contribution on his fancy parties and put our money to use.
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    Mar 20, 2010 4:27 AM GMT
    GwgTrunks saidActually... why haven't we thought of this before?

    Time for Joe to stop wasting contribution on his fancy parties and put our money to use.


    Amen
  • calibro

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    Mar 20, 2010 4:35 AM GMT
    about time
  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 20, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    I think all of the donations I've ever given HRC has been used to proposition me through flyers, ads, and mailers to give them more money..... rather redundant. Considering all the mailings I probably owe them money at this point.
  • metta

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    Mar 20, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    I disagree. The HRC does good work, much of which is not in the public spotlight. The President listens to the HRC. However, I do think that the way the HRC has handled this is wrong as well.

    I have been a member of the HRC for over 10 years...still am. However, I will say that the lockdown was a huge blunder and unnecessary. If GLBT supporters would come to do a sit in (which has not happened), I would hope that the HRC would offer to discuss the issues rather than trying to keep them out.

    HRC's job is to help us with the political process. Many of the things they are doing are not in the media....and that's ok...we still need them. They are not our enemy. We should all work together to fight our enemy and stop bickering among ourselves. That is one thing that we should be able to learn from the Republican Party on what it takes to get things done.



  • Celticmusl

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    Mar 20, 2010 5:01 AM GMT
    metta8 saidI disagree. The HRC does good work, much of which is not in the public spotlight. The President listens to the HRC. However, I do think that the way the HRC has handled this is wrong as well.

    I have been a member of the HRC for over 10 years...still am. However, I will say that the lockdown was a huge blunder and unnecessary. If GLBT supporters would come to do a sit in, I would hope that the HRC would offer to discuss the issues rather than trying to keep them out.

    HRC's job is to help us with the political process. Many of the things they are doing are not in the media....and that's ok...we still need them. They are not our enemy. We should all work together to fight our enemy and stop bickering among ourselves. That is one thing that we should be able to learn from the Republican Party on what it takes to get things done.





    Eh. Well I think so far most are saying we support HRC but we have our own ideas of what they should do with our support. But thanks for a more insightful look into what HRC is dealing with politically right now.
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    Mar 20, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    Agree with you in principle, Metta, but what I take issue with is the HRC having these high priced annual dinners that the majority of the very people they are fighting for can not afford to attend. When it was here in Charlotte, NC, where they raised more money than in many years (was in Raleigh this year), I was only able to go once ($250 was the ticket price). The HRC is needed as are most other gay rights groups on national and state level (where is Act-Up when you need them), but I think HRC has lost its way which is why it doesn't have the fire power they once had. They can get it back again, but they have to stop being elitist. And yes I am a member and have been for the past 5 years.
  • metta

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    Mar 20, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
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    Have you spoke to an administrator/manager at the HRC regarding your concerns? The HRC has events all year long, some are very expensive, some are not, I have also seen some that are free. I have no problem with them targeting SOME of the events to encourge donations form people that can afford to make larger donations as long as they they are working to help all of the GLBT community. Lobbying takes a lot of money and what politician or other political organization does not also do that?
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    Mar 20, 2010 1:14 PM GMT
    metta8 said^
    Have you spoke to an administrator/manager at the HRC regarding your concerns? The HRC has events all year long, some are very expensive, some are not, I have also seen some that are free. I have no problem with them targeting SOME of the events to encourge donations form people that can afford to make larger donations as long as they they are working to help all of the GLBT community. Lobbying takes a lot of money and what politician or other political organization does not also do that?


    Metta -

    You may have gleaned from other of my posts, but I'm a professional fundraiser and I worked in the movement for about half of my career. Regardless of what I think about HRC's effectiveness, which is quite questionable, they are the largest LGBT organization and so they should be more accountable to the community that supports them.

    Further, there fundraising and administrative costs are far higher than the "official" numbers. They, like GLAAD, account for some of their fundraising expenses as "program" through an accounting trick. Knowing what I do, I would guess that only about 1/2 of each dollar you've given them has actually gone to fight for our rights.

    Also, HRC has been caught several times trying to engage in backroom deals that would have gotten rights for some members of the LGBT community, while sacrificing others. They lost my support a long time ago.