Preachers who are not believers

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    Mar 20, 2010 3:20 AM GMT
    http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/Non-Believing-Clergy.pdf

    Very interesting read:

    QUOTEHow widespread is this phenomenon? When we asked one of the other
    pastors we talked with initially if he thought clergy with his views were rare in the church, he
    responded “Oh, you can’t go through seminary and come out believing in God!” Surely an
    overstatement, but a telling one. As Wes put it:
    “. . . there are a lot of clergy out there who --- if you were to ask them --- if you
    were to list the five things that you think may be the most central beliefs of
    Christianity, they would reject every one of them.”
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    Mar 20, 2010 3:54 AM GMT
    . . . so are you seeking rationality in the clergy? . . . you are a hoot . . .

    . . . so, I know adulterers in the pulpit in Senoia, Georgia and in Tahoe CIty, California, but no one cares . . .

    . . . in fact, the church has institutionalized and codified adultery . . . how could they not? . . . if they hadn't, they would be without so much of their revenue (their ill-gotten booty) . . .they had to change and adjust to the low mores of their times or else perish . . .

    . . . they had to make of their god something that someone like a half-witted, endlessly vulgar meninlove could acknowledge . . . and there you have the death of the west . . .
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    Mar 20, 2010 5:21 AM GMT
    It is a strange place to be in. A job preaching what you do not believe, but no way out of it, at least without heavy social consequences..icon_sad.gif
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    Mar 20, 2010 5:29 AM GMT
    I worked in commercial radio for 11 years. One of my peers tripled his income by going on religious radio. When he told me about it, unsolicited, he told me he was selling out and that he thought it was crap but he couldn't say no to the money and perks, and that he thought they were tax cheats. He then went on to say, "If you can't beat them join them."

    False belief systems should pay taxes just like everyone else....
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    Mar 20, 2010 6:18 AM GMT
    OOOOH Look! A religious thread. I think I'll dive in and display my superiority over thee and thine. icon_twisted.gif


    You're beginning to feel very sleeeeeeppppy
    Close your eyes and Listen to my vooooooiiiiiiice
    When I count to three....


    Are you bored yet? icon_rolleyes.gif




    IMHO, the center of spirituality is based on relationships and not so much about how much one understands and obeys rules and restrictions. That's where in many ways organized religion misguides some people.

    This story is proof that the voice and the ear are both infected by the illness.
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    Mar 20, 2010 8:45 PM GMT
    I've always believed that a large number of people who promote and run religion, especially those at the top, cannot possibly believe but promote it because of what they have to gain. It's interesting that the people on the lower levels of religious organizations who are in these positions also don't believe but continue preaching it. THey don't have anywhere near as much to gain as the guys on top so I wonder what overrides their conscience about misleading lots of people
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    Mar 20, 2010 9:01 PM GMT
    I'm going to go lift some heavy stuff a whole bunch of times.