10 Things About Health Care Reform

  • metta

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    Mar 21, 2010 5:17 PM GMT
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    10 THINGS EVERY AMERICAN SHOULD KNOW ABOUT HEALTH CARE REFORM

    1. Once reform is fully implemented, over 95% of Americans will have health insurance coverage, including 32 million who are currently uninsured.2

    2. Health insurance companies will no longer be allowed to deny people coverage because of preexisting conditions—or to drop coverage when people become sick.3

    3. Just like members of Congress, individuals and small businesses who can't afford to purchase insurance on their own will be able to pool together and choose from a variety of competing plans with lower premiums.4

    4. Reform will cut the federal budget deficit by $138 billion over the next ten years, and a whopping $1.2 trillion in the following ten years.5

    5. Health care will be more affordable for families and small businesses thanks to new tax credits, subsidies, and other assistance—paid for largely by taxing insurance companies, drug companies, and the very wealthiest Americans.6

    6. Seniors on Medicare will pay less for their prescription drugs because the legislation closes the "donut hole" gap in existing coverage.7

    7. By reducing health care costs for employers, reform will create or save more than 2.5 million jobs over the next decade.8

    8. Medicaid will be expanded to offer health insurance coverage to an additional 16 million low-income people.9

    9. Instead of losing coverage after they leave home or graduate from college, young adults will be able to remain on their families' insurance plans until age 26.10

    10. Community health centers would receive an additional $11 billion, doubling the number of patients who can be treated regardless of their insurance or ability to pay.11

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    Mar 21, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
    Who would have thought that CSPAN may have a record ratings day. Hehe. The people calling in and telling their personal health care stories are very compelling, except for the ones that repeat stuff that's already been answered.

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    Mar 21, 2010 7:27 PM GMT

    the house will be in order

    the house will be in order


    the house will be in order



    I am so loving this
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    Mar 21, 2010 7:57 PM GMT
    Right, this is amazing TV. I hope it passes, but I know it's still not enough.

    You'll see the Health Insurance companies not denying coverage after the bill is enacted, but they may water down their plans so they are almost worthless. I mean, my plan no longer covers the most common costs: lab and x-rays. So they may try to get away with saying "We won't deny you coverage because you have a pre-existing condition, but you'll only get a plan that covers basically nothing related to it." Does the bill prevent that?

    Truth be told, health care should not be in the hands of a profit insurance system.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 21, 2010 8:11 PM GMT
    It is pretty interesting to watch. Jesse Jackson, Jr means "House in Order" business. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 21, 2010 8:14 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidRight, this is amazing TV. I hope it passes, but I know it's still not enough.

    Truth be told, health care should not be in the hands of a profit insurance system.



    Amen! At the risk of sounding melodramatic, our current health care system is nothing short of evil.
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    Mar 21, 2010 8:21 PM GMT
    One thing I was a bit pissed about was the language in the bill about abortion (yes, I have read it) and the president has just announced he will sign an executive order clarifying that language so abortions will not be federally funded.I am not a right to lifer, but I do not think the federal govt should be funding abortion. It was a slippery slope that, in this case at least, has been removed.
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    Mar 21, 2010 8:38 PM GMT
    ErikTaurean saidOne thing I was a bit pissed about was the language in the bill about abortion (yes, I have read it) and the president has just announced he will sign an executive order clarifying that language so abortions will not be federally funded.I am not a right to lifer, but I do not think the federal govt should be funding abortion. It was a slippery slope that, in this case at least, has been removed.


    And wouldn't it be tragic if the bill failed because some skanks couldn't keep their legs shut. icon_eek.gif Abortion should be the least concern here.
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    Mar 21, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidIt is pretty interesting to watch. Jesse Jackson, Jr means "House in Order" business. icon_lol.gif


    Yeah, I'm actually thinking he's going to say "No bitch, shut the fuck up. You sir, shut the fuck up too." ORDER!
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    Mar 21, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    wrestlervic said
    ErikTaurean saidOne thing I was a bit pissed about was the language in the bill about abortion (yes, I have read it) and the president has just announced he will sign an executive order clarifying that language so abortions will not be federally funded.I am not a right to lifer, but I do not think the federal govt should be funding abortion. It was a slippery slope that, in this case at least, has been removed.


    And wouldn't it be tragic if the bill failed because some skanks couldn't keep their legs shut. icon_eek.gif Abortion should be the least concern here.


    Agreed, but you can't deny this is one of the country's deal breakers. At least here, the deal breaker is removed.
  • metta

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    Mar 22, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    President Obama Live


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    Mar 22, 2010 3:54 AM GMT
    yeah for SyFy channel
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:00 AM GMT
    I am so proud of Obama!!!!!!!

    This is what change looks like!

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    Mar 22, 2010 4:03 AM GMT
    What a sad day for America.
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
    hungjockbb saidWhat a sad day for America.


    You created a new profile just to say that??? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:07 AM GMT
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    hungjockbb saidWhat a sad day for America.


    You created a new profile just to say that??? icon_rolleyes.gif


    clearly a sock.
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:09 AM GMT
    Christian73 said
    hungjockbb saidWhat a sad day for America.


    You created a new profile just to say that??? icon_rolleyes.gif



    I have zero interest fighting with you but i am completely against this. There will still be 15 million not covered (60% of the 34 million who will be covered will get subsidies AKA free health care---welfare handouts) and 15k IRS agents will be hired to watch over people to make sure they purchase insurance and if not they will take your tax return. Big gov't is not the way to go.

    Health reform YES .....this divisive,partisan,35-40% public support health care bill NO>

    America deserves better and the economy should have been priority #1. Maybe if people had a job they could afford insurance which is relatively cheap through a employer.icon_biggrin.gif
  • metta

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    Mar 22, 2010 4:12 AM GMT
    I don't see this bill as the end of health care reform. I see it as a first step.
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:13 AM GMT
    btw, check out john boehner's wiki site. check out the pronunciation of his name...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boehner
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:14 AM GMT
    rangard saidbtw, check out john boehner's wiki site. check out the pronunciation of his name...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boehner


    Haha i know its great!
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    Hs excutive order doesn't mean shit and Stupack just got taken for a ride. An excutive order can not change a law! If you are holding stocks or investments, I would suggest getting them out of the market NOW! cause when the bell rings tomorrow, all hell is going to break loose. SOrry guys but this is nothing short of a sham. I agree something has to be done with health care, the insurance companies and a few other points, but the 2700+ page bill has more pork than IOWA has pigs.

    BEtter results could be acheived, at a lot lower cost, and if you think insurance is expensive now, and your health care sucks, just wait till it is free as everyone is expecting. The cost on anything and everything you need to survice is going to sky rocket, than teh VAC taxes will start filtering in to coverteh huge amounts of money the goverment is spending and wasting. And he said no new taxes, (not 1 thin DIME) HAAA!


    Sorry just on a rant and needed to vent.

    I just pray that something good comes of it but probably not in our lifetimes. It is all downhill from there. And when is something going to happen with all the bribbery, cheating and backroom deals that have taken place. Yes that is normal but the magnitude is insane with this process. and the presidents arm twisting, deal making and outright lies is way beyond what most feel the "fundemental change' ment.


    Sorry about the spelling and rambeling but not going to do the spell check things, my brain is running way ahead of my hands and to stressed to deal with the details.

    God Bless.

    ErikTaurean saidOne thing I was a bit pissed about was the language in the bill about abortion (yes, I have read it) and the president has just announced he will sign an executive order clarifying that language so abortions will not be federally funded.I am not a right to lifer, but I do not think the federal govt should be funding abortion. It was a slippery slope that, in this case at least, has been removed.
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:16 AM GMT
    metta8 saidI don't see this bill as the end of health care reform. I see it as a first step.




    exactly
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Mar 22, 2010 4:17 AM GMT
    I agree. This is just the first step and with some tweeking to smooth out the rough edges, hopefully, it will be a good thing for America. If it isn't, well, at least they tried.
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:20 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx said
    metta8 saidI don't see this bill as the end of health care reform. I see it as a first step.




    exactly



    Both of you please explain in detail what is going to be added in the future and how exactly this is only the first step? Is this a way to convince yourself this is actually a good bill? Bottom line over the past year according to both well resepected Real Clear Politics and Rasmussen public approval ranged from 35-42%. The people were ignored with this bill and its very very sad. Pelosi doesnt care b/c she represents big gay liberal San Fran. What does she care when people there definitely support the bill?!
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    Mar 22, 2010 4:21 AM GMT