Who are "the gays"?

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    Mar 24, 2010 4:00 AM GMT
    A new member from India sent me a message asking me what I find to be a very interesting question; "Who are the gay?"
    So I thought about it and answered him the best I could. With this:

    Anyone who has ever felt different than the social norm based upon their gender or sexual preference is part of "the gays". Once "the gays" realize the dream of becoming part of the social norm, there will no longer be a need for the distinction. But for now, the term helps people understand to whom one is referring when addressing the social injustices against "the gays".

    What do you guys think?
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:20 AM GMT
    I don't dream of becoming part of the social norm, which means I must not be one of whoever "the gays" may or may not be.
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:29 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidI don't dream of becoming part of the social norm, which means I must not be one of whoever "the gays" may or may not be.


    Don't lie and act like you don't wish it could be easier for future generations of gays. Why wouldn't we dream that someday humanity outgrows discrimination of every kind? Achieving "social normalcy" matters to many people who just want to live their lives in peace, and we should fight for that even if you don't need it to be content with your life.
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:51 AM GMT
    Certainly I don't desire the gay experience to be more difficult for future generations. But I'm not fully convinced that seeking acceptance from "society" is the true definition of living in peace. I'd even be willing to argue that seeking, dreaming and fighting are the path by which one lives without peace...not that there's anything wrong with that. icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 24, 2010 5:20 AM GMT
    men who like dick , finding other men who like dick...they interact, forming a certain network.
    they are the gays.
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    Mar 24, 2010 5:24 AM GMT
    unfounded7 saidCertainly I don't desire the gay experience to be more difficult for future generations. But I'm not fully convinced that seeking acceptance from "society" is the true definition of living in peace. I'd even be willing to argue that seeking, dreaming and fighting are the path by which one lives without peace...not that there's anything wrong with that. icon_wink.gif


    Well, I, like you, don't need the validation of society's acceptance to be confident in who I am, which makes me the ideal person to fight for the rights of others. I'm okay with foregoing my own peace to ensure the peace of those to come.
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    abm1985 saidI'm okay with foregoing my own peace to ensure the peace of those to come.

    What makes you think those to come won't find some other way to torment themselves?
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
    Is it just me, or do other people hate seeing the word "gay" used as a noun. "The Gays...," "A Gay...," "We Gays..." I don't know why, but it just bugs me.

    One of those days, maybe.
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    Mar 24, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
    abm1985 saidA new member from India sent me a message asking me what I find to be a very interesting question; "Who are the gay?"
    So I thought about it and answered him the best I could. With this:

    Anyone who has ever felt different than the social norm based upon their gender or sexual preference is part of "the gays". Once "the gays" realize the dream of becoming part of the social norm, there will no longer be a need for the distinction. But for now, the term helps people understand to whom one is referring when addressing the social injustices against "the gays".

    What do you guys think?


    I think that your definition is accurate. And the social norm is overrated..btw.
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    Mar 24, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
    djdorchester saidIs it just me, or do other people hate seeing the word "gay" used as a noun. "The Gays...," "A Gay...," "We Gays..." I don't know why, but it just bugs me.

    One of those days, maybe.


    It bugs the hell out of me tbqh.
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    Mar 24, 2010 5:10 PM GMT
    I took this question as, " who are our leaders?"...misinterpritation (spelled that wrong)...lmao!!!!
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    Mar 24, 2010 5:20 PM GMT
    The gays? Ask Kathy Griffin she uses that word a lot
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:01 AM GMT
    Yeah, I'm not particularly fond of it either. It makes homosexuality sound like an affliction or something. That was just how he phrased it, so I used the same terminology in my response.
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:05 AM GMT
    Gay, Queer, Fag...whatever.....at the end of the day its the same thing.

    You like dick.

    Quit overthinking everything and enjoy life.
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:10 AM GMT
    Sounds like you've been watching Babylon 5 to me
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:14 AM GMT
    should of send him this pic :i

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    I miss those guys : (
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:24 AM GMT
    le_cool saidThe gays? Ask Kathy Griffin she uses that word a lot

    Every other word out of her mouth.
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    Mar 29, 2010 1:32 AM GMT
    Since my sexuality is only a wee part of me, and I disconnected from the gay community many years ago, yet I'm still a homosexual, yet I don't feel any diffrent to anyone else. I'm not sure I relate. I have acceptance for myself, so I don't seek it.
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    Mar 29, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    TheIStrat saidSounds like you've been watching Babylon 5 to me


    Lol, actually I've never seen it. But I've heard I would like it. What reminds you of Babylon 5?
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    Mar 29, 2010 4:26 AM GMT
    I think you're dealing with a language barrier and 'the' has simply been used by mistake. icon_wink.gif

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    Mar 29, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    meninlove said I think you're dealing with a language barrier and 'the' has simply been used by mistake. icon_wink.gif

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    Haha...that is exactly what I was about to write while I was coming to the bottom of the page. English is clearly not the person's first language. He is just translating directly from his first language into English, and in his language there must be an article equivalent to 'the' before saying 'gays'. Trust me, I make the same mistakes in french all the time.
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    Mar 29, 2010 4:43 AM GMT

    *winks at melck*
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    Mar 29, 2010 4:58 AM GMT
    meninlove said
    *winks at melck*


    Winks right back

    It's funny that we were the only ones that even noticed that. Nowadays people only say 'the gays' as a joke.
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    Mar 29, 2010 5:09 AM GMT
    I am having flashbacks to Margret Cho's routine on "the gay"
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    Mar 29, 2010 5:15 AM GMT
    Acceptance starts from within. Don't ask from others what you can't ask from yourself.

    I don't need society to accept me for being gay. Either they will or they won't. They don't have a choice in my existence. It's not my problem either way and I won't allow it to become one. It won't stop me from doing what I feel needs to be done or living my life as I see fit. When I realized that (at a young age) being gay (being myself) became much easier for me.

    I'm at peace with the fact that I have the ability to make my own peace.

    I don't think it's a language barrier. That may be the case for the OP's friend who asked the question but here in America that isn't the case for I see and hear it frequently