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    Mar 25, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    Fast food chains w/ more than 20 locations now must post the calories of their food items. That's awesome, maybe I can start getting food on the go again. I have pretty much stopped since I never know how awful each item is.

    I don't think I could ever completely quit taco bell though icon_smile.gif
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    Mar 25, 2010 2:47 AM GMT
    Really!!! That's good. I thought I remembered hearing that once or twice on MSNBC
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    Mar 25, 2010 5:46 AM GMT
    Interesting. I think some states already require some food chains to list calorie information. Glad to see all states will have it now.

    But really, I'm not sure if this will be effective. Most people won't be able to understand how these calories will affect them. They only see numbers. They'll look at the menu and try to rationalize their choices..

    "Oh, a double-cheeseburger has 800 calories. I guess I should order the regular cheeseburger. It only has 700 calories. And I think I'll have an extra large diet Coke."

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    Mar 25, 2010 8:54 PM GMT
    What a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:00 PM GMT
    I read some research (I can't find my citation, boo!) that said this has had little impact on consumer choice, but actually influenced food companies to alter their food to make it less god awful.

    Giving the consumer more information is a good, good thing regardless.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    Jesus. 2/3 of people are not fat and morbidly obease because McDonalds and Burger King aren't required by law to post nutrition information.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:08 PM GMT
    Don't forget the new tax on tanning salons, also buried in the bill. I love that one.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
    I am VERY happy about this. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:17 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Amen
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:20 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Except not all menu items are death for you. I can eat at a variety of fast food places because I read their nutritional menus online and know what fits my diet. If you honestly can't see the benefit in this, then you either know little about nutrition and/or are just trying to tear down the bill any way you can.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidI read some research (I can't find my citation, boo!) that said this has had little impact on consumer choice, but actually influenced food companies to alter their food to make it less god awful.

    Giving the consumer more information is a good, good thing regardless.


    That's interesting. I had never thought of it that way before but from a marketing point of view it makes total sense. Most food purveyors want to display their products in the a positive light to increase/maintain sales
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:46 PM GMT
    It's not that people who want fast food won't go for fast food, but having the information staring you in the face might be a deterrent.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif



    Eh... I don't mind. The government has wasted money on worse things. There will be stupid people who don't care what they eat no matter what, but it will benefit some people. Plus, like Munching said, the food chains will hopefully alter their menus.

    I mean I prefer cooking for myself anyway, but it'll be nice to know if I have some healthy choices if I'm in a hurry.

    lol, anyway, I wasn't trying to start a political debate. Just heard about it and thought I'd share icon_razz.gif
  • metta

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    Mar 25, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    California started this with chain restaurants in 2008. California requires chain restaruants to list calories, fat content, etc. I find them helpful. I think that we should have a right to know what we are eating. And in return, many restaurants have added new dishes that are healthier to their menus. When restaurants don't have to tell you, they don't care how many calories or how fatening it is. People think that they are making a healthier decision by eating a salad and the salad could have a crazy amount of calories and fat. They focus on just taste and cost. But making them tell people, makes them more concerned. When it was first impletmented, the servers told us that it was so funny to watch people. The obese people just ignored it and the thin to healthy weight people used them.

    http://www.diabetesselfmanagement.com/Blog/Tara-Dairman/california_chain_restaurants_will_list_calories/

    We have a Chipolte Grill that is going to open very soon in the city that I live in. I was looking at the calculator the other day. It is easy to let the fat content get really high with those.
    http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator
  • DrewT

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    Mar 25, 2010 9:50 PM GMT
    These should make anyone think twice about eating fast food. Yuck.

    http://www.babybites.info/2010/03/03/1-year-happy-meal/
    http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S26/91/22K07/

    It's not how many calories it has (that helps) but what they make it out of.
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    Mar 25, 2010 9:53 PM GMT
    JoeB1986 said
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif



    Eh... I don't mind. The government has wasted money on worse things. There will be stupid people who don't care what they eat no matter what, but it will benefit some people. Plus, like Munching said, the food chains will hopefully alter their menus.

    I mean I prefer cooking for myself anyway, but it'll be nice to know if I have some healthy choices if I'm in a hurry.

    lol, anyway, I wasn't trying to start a political debate. Just heard about it and thought I'd share icon_razz.gif


    The really sad part about the food industry is the subsidized agriculture for poor food products that lead to bad health. Read: the US govt supports poor food choices http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1247588/
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    We now say nothing about the regulations of the tobacco industry and the warnings required on their packages. Most people today agree with this because of the obvious negative effects on health. We have a lot less smokers in the U.S. today, but these gains seem to have almost been erased by the poor eating habits in the U.S. It's time we put the same emphasis on fast food and junk food as we do tobacco use. This is a start.
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:04 PM GMT
    " but actually influenced food companies to alter their food to make it less god awful. "

    " but actually influenced food companies to alter their food to make it less god awful."

    " but actually influenced food companies to alter their food to make it less god awful. "

    -----WHICH IS THE WHOLE DAMNED POINT !

    We the People, by allowing this gov't intervention into the fast food business, are demanding the right to know what is in our food.

    Fast Food Franchises should celebrate too. The innovative businesspeople and their creative chefs will win and gain an even larger market.

    I already find some good choices at McDonald's and others. I'm looking forward to even more choices available to me now.


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    Mar 25, 2010 10:05 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    By all appearances, you could have used a few warning signs yourself, Mr. 39.
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:06 PM GMT
    The banning of cigarette production and sales is buried in there too, I hope.
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:16 PM GMT
    muscles4muscles saidIt's not that people who want fast food won't go for fast food, but having the information staring you in the face might be a deterrent.



    u mean like them smokers and alco-hoe-lics?
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:22 PM GMT
    DjDorchester saidDon't forget the new tax on tanning salons, also buried in the bill. I love that one.


    Wasn't that increased to compensate for grumbling about taxing plastic surgery or something?
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    What a fucking shame....

    You mean McDonalds/Burger King/Fat Burger Express will have to kill a fraction of a cent on the dollar of their 100 million dollar advertising budgets to put the nutrition information on the back of one of their leaflets or menu boards.

    Btw in europe they already do this on the back of your tray liner in Mc Donalds or on their website, the same with StarBucks leaftlets by the milk and sugar....

    Were tring to get through legislation for a traffic light system of red(bad)/Yellow(moderate)/Green (good) to really drive it home to people just how bad it is

    The point is not to get people to avoid fast food completly but to think twice about a second/third trip this week...or do they really need a second cheeseburger or maybe give their kids a small instead of a large even though it's only 50c more...
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    hmmmmmmmmm you are beginning to sound like that idiot Southbeach1500
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    Mar 25, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
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    couture saidWhat a waste of time and money.

    Now these companies will need to spend all this money to comply just to state the obvious: Fast food is high in calories and not all that nutritious!

    Did we really need the government to waste time with this? icon_rolleyes.gif


    hmmmmmmmmm you are beginning to sound like that idiot Southbeach1500


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